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Message no. 1
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Crater Lake
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:46:47 -0500
At 02:02 AM 12/11/96 -0500, John wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, John Jacobsma wrote:

>> OK, here's the deal: I'm planning to send my players into Tir
>> Tairngire. Does anyone have the scoop as to what Those Wacky Elves
>> (TM) are up to at Crater Lake? If you're not able to speak "ex
>> cathedra", as it were, how about some educated guesses?
>
>Whatever they were doing, their plans have been seriously altered
>recently, when Harlequin and Aina allowed several powerful Horrors to
>cross over at the Lake while employing blood magic to destroy the Horror
>Ysgarthe. These events were detailed in the novel Worlds Without End.

I thought that before the end of the last magic cycle, they created a
hidden cache of weapons etc., a la Parlainth, and are trying to call it
back by tapping the ley line there.

I seem to recall reading someone recognizing the significance of when the
Crater Lake volcano last erupted.

--
"360 pounds, wow, that half a season of Oprah!"
Dick Diedrieck, "Night Stand"
Message no. 2
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Crater Lake
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:34:46 GMT
Ubiquitous writes

> >> OK, here's the deal: I'm planning to send my players into Tir
> >> Tairngire. Does anyone have the scoop as to what Those Wacky Elves
> >> (TM) are up to at Crater Lake? If you're not able to speak "ex
> >> cathedra", as it were, how about some educated guesses?
> >
There are AFAIK no real hard clues, lots of guesses can be made
however.
We do know.
They cordoned the place off.
The location of the Tir was not chosen for convenience : most likely
it was chosen to include crater lake but theres no proof of that.
There are big lumps 'the size of city blocks' floating above the
lake. But nowhere does it say if the elvels put them there or if they
rose out of the lake with the mana and the elves are investigating
them or whatever.

> >Whatever they were doing, their plans have been seriously altered
> >recently, when Harlequin and Aina allowed several powerful Horrors to
> >cross over at the Lake while employing blood magic to destroy the Horror
> >Ysgarthe. These events were detailed in the novel Worlds Without End.
Not accurate.
close but. Note this is a detailed spoiler for the novel.



Harlequin and Ania where on a road near crater lake when Ysgarthe
appeared, one commented (Ania i think) that he probably couldn't deal
with both of them, then Harlequins legs both snapped and Ania cast
the spell that wrapped Ysgarthe in the cocoon. [the spell used on
Harlequin matches the description of an Earthdawn nethermancer spell
called boneshatter, its 6th circle if memory serves and does multiple
attacks, up to three per target, and maximum attacks equal to
spellcasting talent rank (in the case of Ysgarthe that could be 30+)
It is plain Horrendous and yes i would believe a horror that big
doing in Harlequin in one shot with it, three hits at step 40+Karma
(remember this is a horror we're talking about, karma step lots!)]
[note some ED terminology in the above, in Sr read TOTALLY DEADLY]
This left Harlequin unconcious so he had no part in what happened
next as Ania was towed to crater lake by Ysgarthe.
She then used the blood magic, boosted by drawing power from the
Crater lake power site to splatter Ysgarthe (this is the power surge
Dunklezhan refers to in his comments about the subject).
We don't know if any horrors slipped through right then but she
created another BIG spikepoint that will allow more horrors through,
given the loss of the Great Ghost Dance one to them, (after HB) this
seems the next best place for them to build a replacment bridge to.
oh joy, and why Ania realised afterwards all she could do now is wait
for the fateful day, she's created a new place for the army to arrive
too early, right after Harlequin stopped up the last one!

>
> I thought that before the end of the last magic cycle, they created a
> hidden cache of weapons etc., a la Parlainth, and are trying to call it
> back by tapping the ley line there.
>
Pure speculation i'm affraid.

> I seem to recall reading someone recognizing the significance of when the
> Crater Lake volcano last erupted.
>
The date of that is in Tir Taingire. The end of the forth world date
is in 'Ehran to the Young Elven Technologists' I have a compiled
calander of 'best fit dates' someplace but the files been posted
several times before. However there are now probably quite a few
folks that haven't seen it here.

Can repost if requested.

Mark
Message no. 3
From: Droopy <droopy@*******.NB.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Crater Lake
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 03:01:07 +0000
> From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.NET>
> Subject: Re: [SR2] Crater Lake

> I thought that before the end of the last magic cycle, they created a
> hidden cache of weapons etc., a la Parlainth, and are trying to call it
> back by tapping the ley line there.
>
> I seem to recall reading someone recognizing the significance of when the
> Crater Lake volcano last erupted.

A more mundane possiblity is that they are mining true earth for use
in the great ward or some other project. I seem to remember that
volcanoes are a good source of true earth.


--Droopy
droopy@**.net

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