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Message no. 1
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:31:50 -0400 (EDT)
At 02:19 AM 9/20/96 -0400, Hairy Smurf wrote:
>At 23:57 9/19/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>Hairy Smurf wrote:

>>> Okay I can't let this by again. Spiders are NOT bugs. They do not posses
>>> metas like insect spirits. They are another form of totem. Please stop
>>> adding them into the bug pile. The published totem is not even anti-insect.
>>> I kow its a little thing but it avoids confusion if you can all keep it
>>> straight.
>>
>>Ahh..But Spiders are in the same creepy crawly category as bugs..And are
>>just as alien as the bugs with their own agenda just like bugs..
>
>How do you figure? I don't remember anything in Bug City (where the totem was
>introduced) about them being alien like the bugs. They just like to have
>their hands in every pie and running all of them. The published stuff didn't
>make them out like bugs. Besides the spider totem in one of the Secrets of
>Power novels wasn't at all like other bugs.

Some Jap kid encountered a bunch of what sounded like Spider spirits in the
hallways (or was it air ducts) of "Little Godmother's"(?) HQ. How they came
about was never described, but it could be like other Insect spirits.

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Message no. 2
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:01:12 -0400 (EDT)
At 04:50 AM 9/20/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>Galen "Marphod" Silversmith wrote:

>>> BTW: what's the name of the Elf from Australia mentioned in the Power
>>> trilogy (with same Verner)? Is he mentioned anywhere else?
>>
>>Urdli...and yes, I think he popped up one other place, but damn if I
>>remember where right now...
>
>If you can remember, let us know, cause I don't recall him popping up
>anywhere else...

Yes, I can't recall the name, but I thought he was in "Never Trust an Elf";
I distinctly recall a dark-skinned Elf at the beginning torturing someone
with some bizarre unidentified Illusion spell.

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Caxton translation,
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Message no. 3
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:23:05 -0400 (EDT)
At 08:32 AM 9/20/96 -0500, Steve wrote:

>It is fairly widely accepted that FJ was a member of Echo Mirage. What I
>want to know if what was with the message he recieved the day Magic came
>back (or something like that. Haven't read it in a while and I don't own
>it) in the Denver Source Book. It went someething like: "Welcome to the
>world. Play nice." WHO WROTE THAT? IT SCARES ME!!! Also, FJ is a decking
>God:)

Harlequin or the Big D wrote that, obviously.

I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a "spike
baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.


--
"I dyde shyte thre grete toordes." Fables of Aesop,
Caxton translation,
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Message no. 4
From: Faux Pas <fauxpas@******.net>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:13:30 -0500
At 02:23 PM 9/20/96 -0400, you wrote:

>I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
>baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.

That was Dodger.

-Thomas Deeny
the Cartoonist at large is on the web at www2.cy-net.net/~fauxpas

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Message no. 5
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:24:17 -0500 (EST)
>At 02:23 PM 9/20/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
>>baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.
>
>That was Dodger.
>
I honestly don't think FJ's a spike baby... Somehow, that doesn't feel
right. Can't explain it, though.... I think he's an old guy that's a God
in the matrix, or at the very least, God's Roommate...:)



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Message no. 6
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:50:03 -0500 (EST)
>At 08:32 AM 9/20/96 -0500, Steve wrote:
>
>>It is fairly widely accepted that FJ was a member of Echo Mirage. What I
>>want to know if what was with the message he recieved the day Magic came
>>back (or something like that. Haven't read it in a while and I don't own
>>it) in the Denver Source Book. It went someething like: "Welcome to the
>>world. Play nice." WHO WROTE THAT? IT SCARES ME!!! Also, FJ is a decking
>>God:)
>
>Harlequin or the Big D wrote that, obviously.
>
>I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
>baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.


I don't think it was either of them. Call me paranoid, but I have a feeling
that this may have been the "real" Ghost in the machine - or maybe
Brightlight. He's certainly more technical than either D or H.


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Message no. 7
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:05:36 -0700
Faux Pas wrote:
>
> At 02:23 PM 9/20/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
> >baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.
>
> That was Dodger.

He's right, I don't even think FJ is elven.

BTW a quick question, are the only known spike babies elven? I might buy
them not being ork or troll because these meta-types usually express
when magic returns, but couldn't they possibly be dwarven since they're
"born" as their meta-type the same as elves.


@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 8
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 02:27:29 -0500 (EST)
>Faux Pas wrote:
>>
>> At 02:23 PM 9/20/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>> >I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
>> >baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.
>>
>> That was Dodger.
>
>He's right, I don't even think FJ is elven.
>
>BTW a quick question, are the only known spike babies elven? I might buy
>them not being ork or troll because these meta-types usually express
>when magic returns, but couldn't they possibly be dwarven since they're
>"born" as their meta-type the same as elves.
>
>
Actually, I thought there were some dwarf SB's mentioned somewhere, but I
don't know where...


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# -Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich #
# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
#######################################################

"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 9
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 02:31:30 -0500 (EST)
>BTW a quick question, are the only known spike babies elven? I might buy
>them not being ork or troll because these meta-types usually express
>when magic returns, but couldn't they possibly be dwarven since they're
>"born" as their meta-type the same as elves.

The way I always figured it, Dwarf spike babies have always existed.
They never really went away - just lost their racial abilities when the
magic faded.
We still have people with their rough physical description today.
Dwarfism was construed as a physical condition in the 20th century, when in
fact, it was just a natural expression of a metatype.

When the magic returned, those dwarves would regain their vision, extra
muscle mass, extensive hair growth, et al.

My main reason for doing so was to keep dwarves from getting screwed by
elves yet again! :-)


BTW for those of you who have the SR 1st edition game, whatever happened to
the Dwarf's Immunity to Age power? :-)

Seems like they gave it to the elves!

Seriously though, I wonder why FASA first of all included this in 1st ed.
and why they later changed it for 2nd?


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Message no. 10
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:41:21 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:05 PM 9/20/96 -0700, you wrote:

>BTW a quick question, are the only known spike babies elven? I might buy
>them not being ork or troll because these meta-types usually express
>when magic returns, but couldn't they possibly be dwarven since they're
>"born" as their meta-type the same as elves.

In the first harlequin adventure, there's a Troll in Germany who has a pet
theory about a "mini awakening" featuring Trolls.

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Caxton translation,
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Message no. 11
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:43:59 -0400 (EDT)
At 02:31 9/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>BTW for those of you who have the SR 1st edition game, whatever happened to
>the Dwarf's Immunity to Age power? :-)
>
>Seems like they gave it to the elves!
>
>Seriously though, I wonder why FASA first of all included this in 1st ed.
>and why they later changed it for 2nd?
>
>

I just looked in my SR1 Rb and I don't see, nor rember, the Dwarves having
Immunity to age, Pathogens yes, not age.

What might you be smoking? :)

Sasquatch

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Message no. 12
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:38:31 -0500 (EST)
>At 02:31 9/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>BTW for those of you who have the SR 1st edition game, whatever happened to
>>the Dwarf's Immunity to Age power? :-)
>>
>>Seems like they gave it to the elves!
>>
>>Seriously though, I wonder why FASA first of all included this in 1st ed.
>>and why they later changed it for 2nd?
>>
>>
>
>I just looked in my SR1 Rb and I don't see, nor rember, the Dwarves having
>Immunity to age, Pathogens yes, not age.
>
>What might you be smoking? :)

Which printing do you have? I have a first printing right in front of me,
and it does list in the commentary section that dwarves MIGHT have immunity
to age.
(I'ts right next to the picture of the almost naked dwarf)

Besides, I don't smoke it, I inject it straight into my eyes - gets to the
brain faster that way! :-)


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Message no. 13
From: Joker <s1057948@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:40:51 +1000 (EST)
On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Ubiquitous wrote:

> I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
> baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.

I thought it was Dodger talking to Neko...

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Message no. 14
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:55:35 -0400 (EDT)
At 01:40 PM 9/23/96 +1000, you wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Ubiquitous wrote:

>> I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
>> baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.
>
>I thought it was Dodger talking to Neko...

Probally was; I'm terrible with names.

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Message no. 15
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:45:08 -0400 (EDT)
At 12:38 9/22/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Which printing do you have? I have a first printing right in front of me,
>and it does list in the commentary section that dwarves MIGHT have immunity
>to age.
>(I'ts right next to the picture of the almost naked dwarf)
>
>Besides, I don't smoke it, I inject it straight into my eyes - gets to the
>brain faster that way! :-)
>

Sorry was away for a few days. I've got the second printing hardcover and
I'm looking at the same page you were. The phrase "Their life span is
unverified, but predictions based on metabolic rates run to over a hundred
years" does not Immunity to Age make. Not that I don't like the iea of the
characters could become immortal but lets not go overboard.

And injecting into your eyes runs the possiblilty of making your eyes
sterile. No more lecherous glances. :)

Sasquatch

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Message no. 16
From: kumquat@*****.com
Subject: Re: [SR2] Who's Who of SRII?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:41:48 -0500
SH>>It is fairly widely accepted that FJ was a member of Echo Mirage. What I
SH>>want to know if what was with the message he recieved the day Magic came
SH>>back (or something like that. Haven't read it in a while and I don't own
SH>>it) in the Denver Source Book. It went someething like: "Welcome to the
SH>>world. Play nice." WHO WROTE THAT? IT SCARES ME!!! Also, FJ is a deckin
SH>>God:)

SH>Harlequin or the Big D wrote that, obviously.

SH>I recall speculation in "Never Deal w/ an Elf" on FastJack being a
"spike
SH>baby", but when the main character asked, FJ changed the subject.
Oooops. Wrong Elven Decker. It was Dodger, not FJ (unless they are the
same and noone told me) who was declared a spike baby in that novel.

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