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Message no. 1
From: Arcady arcady@***.net
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:58:01 +700
How much Karma do people hand out?

SR3 has some guidelines for individual Karma awards but nothing for the story
overall. The last adventure in First Run has these guidelines:

2 for completing the story.
1-3 depending on threat level.
1-3 for dealing with a specific story specific task (In this case the riddles/tasks
of the 'Old Man of the Woods').

Using that as a guideline for general 'scenerio design' in terms of Karma payout
gives anywhere from 4 to 8. Is that more or less than the norm for people here?
And is there any good published advice or even website advice on the topic?


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Message no. 2
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:07:32 EDT
In a message dated 8/18/99 7:01:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, arcady@***.net
writes:

> How much Karma do people hand out?
>
> SR3 has some guidelines for individual Karma awards but nothing for the
> story
> overall. The last adventure in First Run has these guidelines:
>
> 2 for completing the story.
> 1-3 depending on threat level.
> 1-3 for dealing with a specific story specific task (In this case the
> riddles/tasks
> of the 'Old Man of the Woods').
>
> Using that as a guideline for general 'scenerio design' in terms of Karma
> payout
> gives anywhere from 4 to 8. Is that more or less than the norm for people
> here?


Most of the time the games I play in hand out total karma awards (personal
and team) of around 10GK.




-Twist
Message no. 3
From: Lars Ericson lericson@****.edu
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:44:08 -0500
Arcady wrote:
>
> How much Karma do people hand out?

> Using that as a guideline for general 'scenerio design' in terms of Karma payout
> gives anywhere from 4 to 8. Is that more or less than the norm for people here?
> And is there any good published advice or even website advice on the topic?

Here's what I typically give:

1 per significant gaming session
1 for surviving
1-2 for roleplaying
1 for solving puzzles, good plans, and clever scams
1 for motivating the plotline
1 for being in the right place with the right skill
1 for each goal accomplished
1-4 for a general threat rating. Note 2 is average, 3 is for a deadly
mission, and 4 is for baddies all over the place.
1 for gutsy (not stupid) combat

Which comes out to an average of 8-9 for a 2 session adventure, or one
long session. With the skills split into their SR2 concentrations, karma
is much more in demand in SR3.

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Message no. 4
From: Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord bahamut@**.com
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:22:00 -0400
> SR3 has some guidelines for individual Karma awards but nothing for the
story
> overall. The last adventure in First Run has these guidelines:
>
> 2 for completing the story.
> 1-3 depending on threat level.
> 1-3 for dealing with a specific story specific task (In this case the
riddles/tasks
> of the 'Old Man of the Woods').
>
cool just dont ask bull for his guide lines he's a Karma hog we if we are
lucky see 5 or 6 Karma points for completing a run *Notes this is some what
biased since we only have plaid like 3-4 runs ever to this point, ah the
heck with it, Its fun to make bull the bad guy heheheheh Its great to say
this also since I controll his E-mail account muhahahahahahah*
Message no. 5
From: Chris Maxfield cmaxfiel@****.org.au
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:57:28 +1000
At 15:58 18/08/99 +0700, Arcady wrote:
>Using that as a guideline for general 'scenerio design' in terms of Karma
>payout
>gives anywhere from 4 to 8. Is that more or less than the norm for people
>here?
>And is there any good published advice or even website advice on the topic?

After topping up with individual roleplaying bonuses, that's more or less
the karma norm that I award per job.


Chris
Message no. 6
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:17:45 +0200
According to Arcady, at 15:58 on 18 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> How much Karma do people hand out?
>
> SR3 has some guidelines for individual Karma awards but nothing for the story
> overall.

I find it strange that the story award section from SRII was not included
in SR3; but that doesn't stop me from using it :) They're on page 199:

1 point for survival
1 point for every mission objective accomplished
0-3 points for the threat level (3 is _a_lot_ here, BTW)

> Using that as a guideline for general 'scenerio design' in terms of Karma payout
> gives anywhere from 4 to 8. Is that more or less than the norm for people here?

It is for the adventures I run; I can't speak for others' games, though,
but I sometimes get the impression that I don't give out much Karma
compared to many other GMs.

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Message no. 7
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:43:31 EDT
In a message dated 8/18/1999 8:18:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
bahamut@**.com writes:

>
> cool just dont ask bull for his guide lines he's a Karma hog we if we are
> lucky see 5 or 6 Karma points for completing a run *Notes this is some
what
> biased since we only have plaid like 3-4 runs ever to this point, ah the
> heck with it, Its fun to make bull the bad guy heheheheh Its great to say
> this also since I controll his E-mail account muhahahahahahah*

Timothy, be nice....

-K
Every Day is a Gift....
Message no. 8
From: Ulrich Haupt sandman@****.uni-oldenburg.de
Subject: SR3 Karma Awards
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:35:28 +0200
Gurth wrote:

> > Using that as a guideline for general 'scenerio design' in terms of Karma payout
> > gives anywhere from 4 to 8. Is that more or less than the norm for people here?
>
> It is for the adventures I run; I can't speak for others' games, though,
> but I sometimes get the impression that I don't give out much Karma
> compared to many other GMs.

Depends on how long the adventures needs (of course it does!
(-: ) . We usually get 7-9 Karma but we often need about 6
sessions (3.5 hours each) so 8 Karma in 2-3 month real time
gives you much time to decide what to learn next for your
character ;-)

Sandman

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