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Message no. 1
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:36:46 +0000
I just realized...with a third edition, Shadowrun will have to decide
how to name the new sourcebooks:

1st--Everything started with "Shadow..."
2nd--(most) Everything reprinted was "...2"

Now they can't make SSC3 or Grimmy 3 (or VR3 or Rigger 3, which of
course would signal the birth of SR4 :) ) While they seem to be
replacing most of those books, they'll have to deal with reprints of
things like Shadowtech. "New Seattle" falls in this catagory (I
think it's a really bad idea to put "New" in a title.

What does everyone else think?

-=SwiftOne=-
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 2
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:01:35 -0400
At 11:36 AM 8/13/98 +0000, you wrote:
>I just realized...with a third edition, Shadowrun will have to decide
>how to name the new sourcebooks:
>
>1st--Everything started with "Shadow..."

Err...not quite. The Neo-A books, the Paranormal guides, the NAN books...

>2nd--(most) Everything reprinted was "...2"

*sigh* That is a rather gross overgeneralization Brett. Lots of stuff
didn't have a 2 behind it.

>Now they can't make SSC3 or Grimmy 3 (or VR3 or Rigger 3, which of
>course would signal the birth of SR4 :) ) While they seem to be
>replacing most of those books, they'll have to deal with reprints of
>things like Shadowtech.

Shadowtech isn't going to be reprinted. It, along with Cybertechnology and
portions of other books will compile various bits, including bioware and
cyberware, into what is tenatively called "Man and Machine."

Not a sexy title, and neither is the "Cannon Companion." But they are
simple and descriptive, two keys to naming sourcebooks I think.

Not terribly keen on their titles myself, they could be sexier, but I'm at
a loss this early in the morning.

>"New Seattle" falls in this catagory (I
>think it's a really bad idea to put "New" in a title.

Well, it's main problem is what happens a decade from now when SR5 is
coming out and they decide to redo all the main books, including Seattle,
again? The New New Seattle? The Really New Seattle? Argh. Maybe this
afternoon once my brain is working properly (egads I'm having an unusually
tough morning) I'll try to come up with potential alternative titles,
assuming it's not too late that is.

Erik the Zoned-Out but still Impatient


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Message no. 3
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:44:13 -0400
Once upon a time, Erik Jameson wrote;

>Well, it's main problem is what happens a decade from now when SR5 is
>coming out and they decide to redo all the main books, including Seattle,
>again? The New New Seattle? The Really New Seattle? Argh. Maybe this
>afternoon once my brain is working properly (egads I'm having an unusually
>tough morning) I'll try to come up with potential alternative titles,
>assuming it's not too late that is.

YA-Seattle or VA-Seattle is the next generation of seattle books I
beleive.


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Message no. 4
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:11:54 -0500
>Well, it's main problem is what happens a decade from now when SR5
>is coming out and they decide to redo all the main books, including
>Seattle, again? The New New Seattle? The Really New Seattle?
>Argh.

Well, my college build a dorm, it was nicknamed "New House", and then
they built another, and it was nicknamed "Next House". "Next
Seattle?"
anyone?

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 5
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 04:15:45 +1000
At 02:11 PM 8/13/98 -0500, Double-Domed Mike wrote:
>Well, my college build a dorm, it was nicknamed "New House", and then
>they built another, and it was nicknamed "Next House". "Next
Seattle?"
>anyone?

Yeah. And the following Seattle update can be called "The Really Really
New Next Seattle"



- ARKHAM
"Pain is what you make it of it."
Message no. 6
From: Kama <kama@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:24:47 -0400
On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Bob Tockley wrote:

> At 02:11 PM 8/13/98 -0500, Double-Domed Mike wrote:
> >Well, my college build a dorm, it was nicknamed "New House", and then
> >they built another, and it was nicknamed "Next House". "Next
Seattle?"
> >anyone?
>
> Yeah. And the following Seattle update can be called "The Really Really
> New Next Seattle"
>
>

Not to ruin the fun by being sensible or anything, but how about just
naming future sourcebooks with the year they are supposed to be from? i.e.
"Seattle 2072"

- Kama
Message no. 7
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:58:53 EST
> >1st--Everything started with "Shadow..."
>
> Err...not quite. The Neo-A books, the Paranormal guides, the NAN books...

Of course...I'm not talking about everything, just trends.

> >2nd--(most) Everything reprinted was "...2"
>
> *sigh* That is a rather gross overgeneralization Brett. Lots of stuff
> didn't have a 2 behind it.

Again, of course. In real terms, I think SSC, Rigger and VR were the
only ones that did. But I was refering to a general "perception"
kind of thing, where reality often has little to do with it. I guess
I was just hoping that when they make books beyond the list we know
about (which is mainly an update/revise list), they don't decide to
start naming everything "New"...

> Not a sexy title, and neither is the "Cannon Companion." But they are
> simple and descriptive, two keys to naming sourcebooks I think.

Really? I like Cannon Companion...it has a certain tongue-in-cheek
humor (humour) that appeals to me.

> >"New Seattle" falls in this catagory (I
> >think it's a really bad idea to put "New" in a title.
>
> Well, it's main problem is what happens a decade from now when SR5 is
> coming out and they decide to redo all the main books, including Seattle,
> again? The New New Seattle? The Really New Seattle? Argh. Maybe this
> afternoon once my brain is working properly (egads I'm having an unusually
> tough morning) I'll try to come up with potential alternative titles,
> assuming it's not too late that is.

Seattle: New and Improved.

It's just a pet peeve of mine left over from my junior high days when
I was reading Piers Anthony. Every Xanth book was labeled "A New
Xanth novel!" Most of which, by the time I got to them, was a total
lie. (Note: He's still writing them [damnit, let the series die!]
and they're still labeled as such)

-=SwiftOne=-
The New SwiftOne, coming next summer!
Message no. 8
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:57:41 -0400
At 01:58 PM 8/13/98 EST, you wrote:

>Again, of course. In real terms, I think SSC, Rigger and VR were the
>only ones that did. But I was refering to a general "perception"
>kind of thing, where reality often has little to do with it. I guess

Okay. Perception is a highly subjective thing; I don't share the same
perception, and while I can't quite understand why you would have that
perception, I can't exactly attack something like perception.

>I was just hoping that when they make books beyond the list we know
>about (which is mainly an update/revise list), they don't decide to
>start naming everything "New"...

Doubt it.

And from *rumor* and *report*, the books aren't going to simply be updates
and compilations, they are supposed to have all new stuff in them too.
Gotta get all the old-timers to buy the books too you know.

>Really? I like Cannon Companion...it has a certain tongue-in-cheek
>humor (humour) that appeals to me.

I kinda like it too, but it really isn't sexy.

>Seattle: New and Improved.

Heh. Just like Tide and Stouffer's Stuffing and Formula 409...

>It's just a pet peeve of mine left over from my junior high days when
>I was reading Piers Anthony. Every Xanth book was labeled "A New
>Xanth novel!" Most of which, by the time I got to them, was a total
>lie. (Note: He's still writing them [damnit, let the series die!]
>and they're still labeled as such)

Are you serious? Those books *used* to be so cool, but the premise got a
bit old after a while. Kinda liked his Incarnations of Immortality series
for a while though.

Like I have time to read anymore...

Erik the Really Impatient
Message no. 9
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:23:10 EST
> Okay. Perception is a highly subjective thing; I don't share the same
> perception, and while I can't quite understand why you would have that
> perception, I can't exactly attack something like perception.

Which is why I fell back on it in defense :) If you hadn't stopped,
I'd have had to say "God told me" or something else equally
subjective and impossible to argue about. :D

> >I was just hoping that when they make books beyond the list we know
> >about (which is mainly an update/revise list), they don't decide to
> >start naming everything "New"...
>
> Doubt it.
>
> And from *rumor* and *report*, the books aren't going to simply be updates
> and compilations, they are supposed to have all new stuff in them too.
> Gotta get all the old-timers to buy the books too you know.

Right, But I mean when they break free from having to catch up...when
the time comes to write an ENTIRE book on something totally NEW. But
then, I guess in such a case they wouldn't have to call it "New" or
"...3" or anything. Opps. Nevermind.

> >Really? I like Cannon Companion...it has a certain tongue-in-cheek
> >humor (humour) that appeals to me.
>
> I kinda like it too, but it really isn't sexy.

Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused "Goth"
style.
(sorry Spike). I find my fiancee sexy. I'm not sure I could find
the Cannon Companion, under any title, sexy... If I could, I think
Cannon Companion is pretty close. Do you have a suggestion? This is
one area where a good example COULD sway my perception :)

> >It's just a pet peeve of mine left over from my junior high days when
> >I was reading Piers Anthony. Every Xanth book was labeled "A New
> >Xanth novel!" Most of which, by the time I got to them, was a total
> >lie. (Note: He's still writing them [damnit, let the series die!]
> >and they're still labeled as such)
>
> Are you serious? Those books *used* to be so cool, but the premise got a
> bit old after a while. Kinda liked his Incarnations of Immortality series
> for a while though.

I found the premise old after the fourth book, but none really
compared to the first. (Castle Roogna was good too, very reminiscent
of A Spell for Chameleon) I think Harpy Thyme or Demons Don't dream
was his last, (somewhere around the 15th book or so...) but I stopped
reading the a ways back.

> Like I have time to read anymore...
> Erik the Really Impatient

What else do you have to do while you wait for your BABY?

-=SwiftOne=-
"Doin it all for my BABY..." --Huey Lewis and the News
Message no. 10
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:04:38 -0400
Once upon a time, Brett Borger wrote;

>Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
>black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
>"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused
"Goth" style.
>(sorry Spike).

Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.

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Message no. 11
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:47:18 +0100
And verily, did Erik Jameson hastily scribble thusly...
|
|At 11:36 AM 8/13/98 +0000, you wrote:
|>I just realized...with a third edition, Shadowrun will have to decide
|>how to name the new sourcebooks:
|>
|>1st--Everything started with "Shadow..."
|
|Err...not quite. The Neo-A books, the Paranormal guides, the NAN books...

The Street Samuri catalogue.
In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....
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Message no. 12
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:03:02 -0500
>>1st--Everything started with "Shadow..."
>
>Err...not quite. The Neo-A books, the Paranormal guides, the NAN books...

Matter of fact, for the stuff that hit the streets in SR1, only SHADOWBEAT
had "Shadow" in the title. Only a couple of the books, total, had
"Shadow"
as the beginning of the title (the only two I see on the shelf are
SHADOWBEAT and SHADOWTECH).

>>2nd--(most) Everything reprinted was "...2"
>
>*sigh* That is a rather gross overgeneralization Brett. Lots of stuff
>didn't have a 2 behind it.

Almost everything, in fact, did not have a 2 behind it.

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Message no. 13
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:08:21 +0100
And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Once upon a time, Brett Borger wrote;
|
|>Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
|>black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
|>"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused
"Goth" style.
|>(sorry Spike).
|
| Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
|tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.

Yeh. I've got no idea what gave him the idea that I was a sad vampire
wannabe. Is my picture up on the Shadowrn Who's who? I can't remember.
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Message no. 14
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:42:02 EST
> >Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
> >black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
> >"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused
"Goth" style.
> >(sorry Spike).
>
> Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
> tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.

So just say you look "dashing" and you'll be saved. :)

-=SwiftOne=-
'Course, then I'll have to think you're sexy....
Message no. 15
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:04:46 -0400
At 03:23 PM 8/13/98 EST, you wrote:
>> Okay. Perception is a highly subjective thing; I don't share the same
>> perception, and while I can't quite understand why you would have that
>> perception, I can't exactly attack something like perception.
>
>Which is why I fell back on it in defense :) If you hadn't stopped,
>I'd have had to say "God told me" or something else equally
>subjective and impossible to argue about. :D

Heh. No comment... ;-)

>Right, But I mean when they break free from having to catch up...when
>the time comes to write an ENTIRE book on something totally NEW. But
>then, I guess in such a case they wouldn't have to call it "New" or
>"...3" or anything. Opps. Nevermind.

Well, we know that the Target: stuff is in order for at least some future
books. And we know that Mike has apparently killed the entire Neo-A thing.
It'll be interesting to see if they can come upon another naming convention.

>Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
>black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
>"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused
"Goth" style.

Well, I'll go there with you. White can be terribly sexy too methinks.

>I find my fiancee sexy.

Well, you had better.

>I'm not sure I could find
>the Cannon Companion, under any title, sexy... If I could, I think
>Cannon Companion is pretty close. Do you have a suggestion? This is
>one area where a good example COULD sway my perception :)

Haven't the fuzziest idea myself; got the Comicon weighing heavily on my
mind, along with all the normal work crap. I would tend to go along with
something like was done with "Fields of Fire." That's a cool title. I
dunno, "Dogs of War" is overused in too many arenas, but something like that.

>> Like I have time to read anymore...
>> Erik the Really Impatient
>
>What else do you have to do while you wait for your BABY?

Pretending to work, trying to get all the various stuff prepared for my
Comicon Shadowrun game, get packed for the Comicon, pretend to work...

>-=SwiftOne=-
>"Doin it all for my BABY..." --Huey Lewis and the News

I wonder just how long you can keep that up...

Erik the Really Impatient
Message no. 16
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:16:17 -0400
Once upon a time, Spike wrote;

>In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....

Shadowbeat

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more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
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Message no. 17
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:19:29 -0400
Once upon a time, Brett Borger wrote;

>> >Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
>> >black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
>> >"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused
"Goth" style.
>> >(sorry Spike).
>>
>> Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
>> tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.
>
>So just say you look "dashing" and you'll be saved. :)

How about Suave? And I wouldn't be anything close to overused. Gotta
challenge that crowd too.

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"All artists are victims of their desire to be unique"
-Original source unknown

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Message no. 18
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:20:48 +0100
And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Once upon a time, Spike wrote;
|
|>In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....
|
|Shadowbeat

D'OH!
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Message no. 19
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:21:25 -0400
Once upon a time, Spike wrote;

>| Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
>|tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.
>
>Yeh. I've got no idea what gave him the idea that I was a sad vampire
>wannabe. Is my picture up on the Shadowrn Who's who? I can't remember.

Last I knew. I stopped caring once I became all that is wrong with
his first site.

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Message no. 20
From: "RazorGirl ." <chumlikin@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:36:05 PDT
>The Street Samuri catalogue.
>In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....
Shadow Beat and Shadows of the Underworld (yes that is an adventure)

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Message no. 21
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:39:03 -0400
Once upon a time, RazorGirl . wrote;

>>The Street Samuri catalogue.
>>In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....
>Shadow Beat and Shadows of the Underworld (yes that is an adventure)

Into the Shadows (or whatever the Companions true name is).

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Ancient cultures believed that names held great power, personal names
more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
I am MC23
Message no. 22
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:46:36 +0100
And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Once upon a time, RazorGirl . wrote;
|
|>>The Street Samuri catalogue.
|>>In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....
|>Shadow Beat and Shadows of the Underworld (yes that is an adventure)
|
|Into the Shadows (or whatever the Companions true name is).

That doesn't count either. 2nd Ed again.

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Message no. 23
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:45:05 +0100
And verily, did RazorGirl . hastily scribble thusly...
|
|>The Street Samuri catalogue.
|>In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....
|Shadow Beat and Shadows of the Underworld (yes that is an adventure)

But that's not a 1st Ed adventure, is it?
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| Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
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Message no. 24
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:57:20 EST
> |>1st--Everything started with "Shadow..."
> |
> |Err...not quite. The Neo-A books, the Paranormal guides, the NAN books...
>
> The Street Samuri catalogue.
> In fact, the only book called Shadow**** was ShadowTech....

And ShadowBeat. But that really doesn't help my cause....

-=SwiftOne=-
Hey! RBB had "Black" in it! That counts!
Message no. 25
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:21:18 -0300
MC23 wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Brett Borger wrote;
>
> >Hmm. Looks like we're back to perception :) I find computers in
> >black towers sexy. I find black clothing sexy if it is in more a
> >"dashing" style than a "take me" style or an overused
"Goth" style.
> >(sorry Spike).
>
> Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
> tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.
>
> I am MC23


Hey, maybe MC23 is a Man in Black :) !!! One that got recruited
really late, but... :) .

Bira
Message no. 26
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:39:36 +0000
> Haven't the fuzziest idea myself; got the Comicon weighing heavily on my
> mind, along with all the normal work crap. I would tend to go along with
> something like was done with "Fields of Fire." That's a cool title. I
> dunno, "Dogs of War" is overused in too many arenas, but something like
that.

Funny you should say that...I believe "Chien de Guerre" (or however
it's spelled) is the French title of Fields of Fire, which is, Dogs
of War.

> >-=SwiftOne=-
> >"Doin it all for my BABY..." --Huey Lewis and the News
>
> I wonder just how long you can keep that up...

"Ohhhhhhhh, BABY Love, My BABY love " --??Shandells?
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 27
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:46:50 +0000
> >> Spike is one of them thar punk rockers. I'm the one with the
> >> tendency to avoid wearing anything involving color.
> >
> >So just say you look "dashing" and you'll be saved. :)
>
> How about Suave? And I wouldn't be anything close to overused. Gotta
> challenge that crowd too.

Suave works. And as long as "challenging" doesn't involve looking
like a pincushion, I can respect your "sexiness".

-=SwiftOne=-
"Baby think twice" -Celine Dion
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 28
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:42:10 -0400
Once upon a time, Brett Borger wrote;

>Suave works. And as long as "challenging" doesn't involve looking
>like a pincushion, I can respect your "sexiness".

Challenge? looking like a pincushion? for the Goth crowd? I don't think
you thought that one through. Blue Jeans and a T-Shirt my friend.

As Genesis P. Orridge (When he was with Throbbing Gristle before
Psychic TV) once said, "Our fans look rather nondescript."

I always get a kick out of the little Manson kiddies trying to sneer
at me and then I go talk to some of my friends they look up to.
Especially when I know more about that music than they do. That confusion
is priceless.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"But we know evil is an exact science,
being carefully, correctly wrong!"
-Shriekback, Nemesis

I am MC23
Message no. 29
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:17:48 -0500
>> >"Doin it all for my BABY..." --Huey Lewis and the News
>>
>> I wonder just how long you can keep that up...
>
>"Ohhhhhhhh, BABY Love, My BABY love " --??Shandells?

The Supremes, if memory serves correctly.
Message no. 30
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Naming Sourcebooks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:48:49 +0000
> >Suave works. And as long as "challenging" doesn't involve looking
> >like a pincushion, I can respect your "sexiness".
>
> Challenge? looking like a pincushion? for the Goth crowd? I don't think
> you thought that one through. Blue Jeans and a T-Shirt my friend.

No I did....I was sure I wouldn't be offending you. :)

-=SwiftOne=-
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie

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