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Message no. 1
From: Alex Bayne <specialist5@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: SR3: Racial Maximum and Adepts
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:50:20 PDT
Although I don't understand the point you're trying to make in general,
I think it's like this: why should the cybered up street samurai only
have to pay for going from 6 to 7 in karma points for increasing
strength when the physical adept has to pay more to augment his
unmodified strength because he increased it with magic. I think that
that was in SR2 all along, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I think that the
cyberware should count as an artificial enhancement, while the magical
increase should count as a full-fledged increase to the attribute. I.E.,
if the GM asks to use your unmodified strength, or quickness, or body,
then the magical increase should count as well. If this wasn't what you
meant, clarify?



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Message no. 2
From: Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: SR3: Racial Maximum and Adepts
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:58:43 -0700
> Although I don't understand the point you're trying to make in
general,
>I think it's like this: why should the cybered up street samurai only
>have to pay for going from 6 to 7 in karma points for increasing
>strength when the physical adept has to pay more to augment his
>unmodified strength because he increased it with magic. I think that
>that was in SR2 all along, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I think that the
>cyberware should count as an artificial enhancement, while the magical
>increase should count as a full-fledged increase to the attribute. I.E.,
>if the GM asks to use your unmodified strength, or quickness, or body,
>then the magical increase should count as well. If this wasn't what you
>meant, clarify?


I can barely tell what points I should address, and have less clue what
you are replying to, but here goes:
Anybody with an (artificially) boosted stat pays karma to raise the base
stat. That only seems fair. They also raise skills as if they only had that
base stat (which, in SR3, makes a sizable difference in skill cost).
Adepts have a power (increase physical attribute) that effectively raises
their NATURAL stat. Usually it is cheaper to use this power (at 20 good karma
per power point) than to buy the stat with straight karma. Adepts can still
boost attributes with artificial methods, even if they have this power. And
they can use this power, if their stat is artificially boosted.
That gives the adept an edge in physical development.
The "Increase physical attribute" power DOES count as an
"unmodified"
stat.

Mongoose

P.S. Could somebody PLEASE buy this fellow a grammar lesson? I could
forgive a foreigner grammar errors, but this looks like purely colloquial
laziness. The LEAST of the faults here is the flagrant FAQ violation of not
INCLUDING RELEVANT QUOTATIONS. Hell, I can untangle Doom's syntax faster than
that gyberish!
Message no. 3
From: 00DNA <mcmanus@******.ALBANY.EDU>
Subject: Re: SR3: Racial Maximum and Adepts
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:33:28 -0400
>> Although I don't understand the point you're trying to make in

Actually, it's because I'm a dumb-ass. (:
I read the increasing Attributes section of SR3, but really only skimmed
over the Physical Adept abilities, where it says they can go past racial
max (not racially adjusted limit) and now they pay only .5 or 1 for the point.
My whole point is moot because I didn't read the rules close enough...

I have administered a self thwapping...


--00DNA
"The Matrix patterns itself on Nature" <<Replication Terminated>>

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