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Message no. 1
From: java <java@**********.COM>
Subject: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:55:23 -0400
Howdy,

I just got through reading SR3 and was horrified by the way Fasa has run
roughshod over the shaman. To be specific, a shaman can only summon one
spirit at a time in a particular domain and as soon as you leave the domain
it leaves (unless still performing a task). All the while Hermetics get to
summon all the elementals they want (up to their Chrisma, anyway). I don't
know it seems a bit punitive to me.




"Irony, It's like goldy or silvery, only different"
Blackadder
Java@**********.com
Message no. 2
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:37:27 -0400
Once upon a time, java wrote;

>Howdy,
>
> I just got through reading SR3 and was horrified by the way Fasa has =
run
>roughshod over the shaman. To be specific, a shaman can only summon one
>spirit at a time in a particular domain and as soon as you leave the =
domain
>it leaves (unless still performing a task). All the while Hermetics get =
to
>summon all the elementals they want (up to their Chrisma, anyway). I =
don't
>know it seems a bit punitive to me.

B>]#
And I'm normally jealous that shamans can whistle up a spirit =
whenever they are in the mood and they don't even have to spend any =
money on supplies to do so. There is also a huge difference in what =
an elemental can do for you and what a spirit can.

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><>

"THAT¹S NOT FAIR!"
"You say that so often. I wonder what your basis for comparison is."
-Sarah and Jareth, Labyrinth

I am MC23
Message no. 3
From: Chris Schilling <chrisjohn@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:39:09 -0400
<snip post about shamans>

Which reminds me (I've been gone for a month, hence no posting, and joined
just before that)...as for shamans in SR3, are the totems the same? Do they
work the same, or is it a little more detailed? I was suprised at the lack of depth
that SR2 gave the shaman's totems. A paragraph, no example, and a line that
says the GM can punish the shaman for not fulfilling his geas if he so chooses.




Waiting for the 2nd stock of SR3s (doh!)


Chris
Message no. 4
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 02:53:17 -0400
>Howdy,
>
> I just got through reading SR3 and was horrified by the way Fasa
has run
>roughshod over the shaman. To be specific, a shaman can only summon one
>spirit at a time in a particular domain and as soon as you leave the domain
>it leaves (unless still performing a task). All the while Hermetics get to
>summon all the elementals they want (up to their Chrisma, anyway). I don't
>know it seems a bit punitive to me.

Are you new to SR?
This is the way Shamans have always been.

While you might find that tough, remember, a shaman can call up a spirit in
one action, as needed.
If a mage doesn't have an elemental handy, he's out of luck.

Six of one, half dozen of the other.
It's just a way of balancing the two wizard types in the game ...

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
http://listen.to/Tinner
"Who taught you to make P's like that?" "The Dancing Horse."
"Stay away from
that Dancing Horse!" - Louie and Zalmie, "American Pop"
Message no. 5
From: Mike Bobroff <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:34:59 EDT
In a message dated 8/14/98 11:27:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
java@**********.com writes:

> Howdy,
>
> I just got through reading SR3 and was horrified by the way Fasa
has
> run
> roughshod over the shaman. To be specific, a shaman can only summon one
> spirit at a time in a particular domain and as soon as you leave the domain
> it leaves (unless still performing a task). All the while Hermetics get to
> summon all the elementals they want (up to their Chrisma, anyway). I don't
> know it seems a bit punitive to me.

Ummm, this was the way it was in the SR2 chummer, unless the shaman pulled up
a Great-form spirit.

-Herc
------ The Best Mechanic you can ever have.
Message no. 6
From: SThanatos <sthanatos@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:21:19 -0400
At 11:55 PM 8/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Howdy,
>
> I just got through reading SR3 and was horrified by the way Fasa
has run
>roughshod over the shaman. To be specific, a shaman can only summon one
>spirit at a time in a particular domain and as soon as you leave the domain
>it leaves (unless still performing a task). All the while Hermetics get to
>summon all the elementals they want (up to their Chrisma, anyway). I don't
>know it seems a bit punitive to me.

Um...correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way its always been. Even in
SR2 it was like that. Nothing has changed. There are benifits to being a
Hermetic, but also limitations as well. It all goes down to role playing
really. If you just play the game for "Whats the most kick ass character I
can make" then the roleplay value goes out the door. This ended up more of
a rant then I had wanted it to be. I'm going to stop typing now.

Thanatos
Message no. 7
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Shamans
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:41:25 -0700
> From: java <java@**********.com>

> Howdy,

Back at ya.

> I just got through reading SR3 and was horrified by the way Fasa
has run
> roughshod over the shaman. To be specific, a shaman can only summon one
> spirit at a time in a particular domain and as soon as you leave the
domain
> it leaves (unless still performing a task). All the while Hermetics get
to
> summon all the elementals they want (up to their Chrisma, anyway). I
don't
> know it seems a bit punitive to me.

IIRC you could never summon more than one spirit in a particular domain.
Also the ability to summon a spirit for free and in one complex action is a
huge advantage. The powers of Nature Spirits are always nice as well.

oh BTW your reply too field is overriding the list.

Caric

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