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Message no. 1
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Speed Loaders - missing again!?!
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 02:31:59 +1000
I've looked high and low throughout SR3, but the cost and description of
a speed loader are nowhere to be found. This was something that irritated
the absolute hell out of me in Second Edition and I assumed FASA would have
fixed up the problem before releasing SR3.
Don't get me wrong, I know what a Speed Loader is, what it's used for,
and roughly how much it should cost. It just annoys me that it isn't listed
(from what I can see anyway). If you can point out the description/listing
for speed loader I'd be eternally grateful (but don't point me to page 280
- that's not a description or a listing it's a table showing what type of
action it takes to reload various weapons).

- ARKHAM
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste somebody with..."
Message no. 2
From: Chameleon <cham@***.BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Speed Loaders - missing again!?!
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:51:47 GMT
And so, on Mon, 21 Sep 1998 02:31:59 +1000 did Bob Tockley
<zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU> quoth merrily:

> I've looked high and low throughout SR3, but the cost and description =
of
>a speed loader are nowhere to be found. This was something that =
irritated
>the absolute hell out of me in Second Edition and I assumed FASA would =
have
>fixed up the problem before releasing SR3.

I never noticed this before, so i just checked, heres a quote -
"The presence of a speed loader (see Firearm Accessories, p. 240)..."
(BTW: this is SRII)
So i flick out to page 240, and look for speed loader, and it's not
there!!!

> Don't get me wrong, I know what a Speed Loader is, what it's used for,
>and roughly how much it should cost. It just annoys me that it isn't =
listed
>(from what I can see anyway). If you can point out the =
description/listing
>for speed loader I'd be eternally grateful (but don't point me to page =
280
>- that's not a description or a listing it's a table showing what type =
of
>action it takes to reload various weapons).

Might i ask what cost you gave to this item? I've never thought much
about it and would like to know what people who know what they're
talking about think about the price.

Chameleon,

--
Don't be silly. If this was REALLY the ships self destuct button,
do you think they would leave it lying around where anyone could press =
it?
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Message no. 3
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Speed Loaders - missing again!?!
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:05:51 +1000
>Might i ask what cost you gave to this item? I've never thought much
>about it and would like to know what people who know what they're
>talking about think about the price.

Well speed loaders are a dime a dozen - they're nothing much more than a
molded piece of plastic. I figure they're about the same cost as a spare
clip. Call it 5 nuyen, street index of 0.75, and all the rest.

- ARKHAM
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste somebody with..."
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Speed Loaders - missing again!?!
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:57:31 +0200
According to Chameleon, at 7:51 on 21 Sep 98, the word on the street was...

> Might i ask what cost you gave to this item? I've never thought much
> about it and would like to know what people who know what they're
> talking about think about the price.

I'd just give them the same stats as ammo clips.

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Message no. 5
From: Fixer <fixer@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject: Re: [SR3] Speed Loaders - missing again!?!
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:15:57 -0400
On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Bob Tockley wrote:

-> I've looked high and low throughout SR3, but the cost and description of
->a speed loader are nowhere to be found. This was something that irritated
->the absolute hell out of me in Second Edition and I assumed FASA would have
->fixed up the problem before releasing SR3.
-> Don't get me wrong, I know what a Speed Loader is, what it's used for,
->and roughly how much it should cost. It just annoys me that it isn't listed
->(from what I can see anyway). If you can point out the description/listing
->for speed loader I'd be eternally grateful (but don't point me to page 280
->- that's not a description or a listing it's a table showing what type of
->action it takes to reload various weapons).

I just used the "Clip" cost (5 Nuyen) and say it's a speed loader.
It's not really 'missing' if you consider that option.

Fixer --------------} The easy I do before breakfast,
the difficult I do all day long,
the impossible only during the week,
and miracles performed on an as-needed basis....

Now tell me, what was your problem?

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