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Message no. 1
From: zebulingod@*****.com (zebulingod)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:31:49 -0700
Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited Edition for
me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.

Grrr...

Zebulin

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Message no. 2
From: bandwidthoracle@*******.net (bandwidthoracle)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:33:10 -0600
On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:31 PM, zebulingod wrote:

> Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited
> Edition for
> me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.
>
> Grrr...
>
> Zebulin

Did you specifically pre-order a limited?From anders@**********.com Thu Oct 13 06:48:33
2005
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:48:33 -0700
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zebulingod" <zebulingod@*****.com>
To: "'Shadowrun Discussion'" <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store


> Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited Edition for
> me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.

Yes, Alliance has theirs and I will havew mine next delivery. Now, wheres
the intro adventure?
Oh yes, I got zeroed on my limited ed order.
--Anders
Message no. 3
From: bullcon@*****.com (Bull)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:34:48 -0400
On 10/13/05, bandwidthoracle <bandwidthoracle@*******.net> wrote:
>
> On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:31 PM, zebulingod wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited
> > Edition for
> > me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.
> >
> > Grrr...
> >
> > Zebulin
>
> Did you specifically pre-order a limited?
>

He may have, and his store didn't end up ordering enough to get him one.

Unfortunatly this is apparently VERY common. I' talked to a couple store
owners just before Gen Con, and both were positive that their distributors
would be able to get them an LE or 2, despite neither planning to purchase
12 copies. When I mentioned that the 12 book deal was a limit imposed the
the publisher, both laughed and commented something to the effect of having
a good relationship with their distributor and being able to get hooked up.

Add to this the apparent confusion regarding the 12 book limit rule. It
seems to have been a combination of distributor and retailer
miscommunication, misunderstanding, or flat out lying because a lot of folks
are saying that they didn't know or weren't told, or were told wrong (6 per
LE seems to be a common one). I do know FanPro has said repeatedly since the
GAMA Trade Show back in what, March? That the deal was 12 for one.

It is a sucky situation :(

Bull
Message no. 4
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin M)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:35:48 -0700
On 10/12/05, bandwidthoracle <bandwidthoracle@*******.net> wrote:
>
> On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:31 PM, zebulingod wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited
> > Edition for
> > me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.
> >
> > Grrr...
> >
> > Zebulin
>
> Did you specifically pre-order a limited?
>


I did, yes. \:

Zebulin

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Message no. 5
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin M)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:38:23 -0700
On 10/13/05, Bull <bullcon@*****.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/13/05, bandwidthoracle <bandwidthoracle@*******.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:31 PM, zebulingod wrote:
> > > Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited
> > > Edition for
> > > me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.
> > >
> > > Grrr...
> > >
> > > Zebulin
> >
> > Did you specifically pre-order a limited?
> >
>
> He may have, and his store didn't end up ordering enough to get him one.
>
> Unfortunatly this is apparently VERY common. I' talked to a couple store
> owners just before Gen Con, and both were positive that their distributors
> would be able to get them an LE or 2, despite neither planning to purchase
> 12 copies. When I mentioned that the 12 book deal was a limit imposed the
> the publisher, both laughed and commented something to the effect of
> having
> a good relationship with their distributor and being able to get hooked
> up.
>
> Add to this the apparent confusion regarding the 12 book limit rule. It
> seems to have been a combination of distributor and retailer
> miscommunication, misunderstanding, or flat out lying because a lot of
> folks
> are saying that they didn't know or weren't told, or were told wrong (6
> per
> LE seems to be a common one). I do know FanPro has said repeatedly since
> the
> GAMA Trade Show back in what, March? That the deal was 12 for one.
>
> It is a sucky situation :(
>
> Bull
>

Spot on! You know what REALLY irritates the hell out of me, though? The
store DID order enough to get a single Limited Edition. You know who got it?
The one guy who works there, doesn't play Shadowrun, and who I told the
Limited Edition would be worth a couple hundred dollars (stupidly opened my
mouth before I had the book in hand). In addition, he's the one guy I
remember from high school that I absolutely could not stand cause of his
holier than thou attitude.

Aargh!

*thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the LE book*

Zebulin

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Message no. 6
From: derek@***************.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:41:23 -0500
> *thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the LE book*

*volunteers his services*

>
> Zebulin
Message no. 7
From: bandwidthoracle@*******.net (bandwidthoracle)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:43:50 -0600
Derek Hyde wrote:

>>*thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the LE book*
>>
>>
>
>*volunteers his services*
>
>
>
>>Zebulin
>>
>>
I too would volunteer, but unfortunately I think I'm an otaku and as
soon as you transfer to SR4, I may or may not exist.
Message no. 8
From: derek@***************.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:46:40 -0500
>
>>> *thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the LE book*
>>>
>>>
>>
>> *volunteers his services*
>>
>>
>>
>>> Zebulin
>>>
>>>
> I too would volunteer, but unfortunately I think I'm an otaku and as
> soon as you transfer to SR4, I may or may not exist.
>
>
Don't feel bad, I don't think I'll be able to get Gel Rounds in time for the
run....
Message no. 9
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:05:44 +0200
According to Derek Hyde, on 13-10-05 18:46 the word on the street was...

> Don't feel bad, I don't think I'll be able to get Gel Rounds in time for the
> run....

Gel rounds? Real runners use explosive ammo :)

--
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Message no. 10
From: derek@***************.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:10:32 -0500
>
>> Don't feel bad, I don't think I'll be able to get Gel Rounds in time for the
>> run....
>
> Gel rounds? Real runners use explosive ammo :)

It's not very nice to use explosive ammo on people when you're using a .338
Ultra ;)
Message no. 11
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:15:18 +0200
According to Derek Hyde, on 13-10-05 19:10 the word on the street was...

> It's not very nice to use explosive ammo on people when you're using a .338
> Ultra ;)

Well ... I guess it's much like the Neemis Enterprises ad slogan says:
"Do people really care enough about student demonstrators to put a thin
plastic coating over a 13 gram steel core? People do."

;)

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Message no. 12
From: derek@***************.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:20:08 -0500
>> It's not very nice to use explosive ammo on people when you're using a .338
>> Ultra ;)
>
> Well ... I guess it's much like the Neemis Enterprises ad slogan says:
> "Do people really care enough about student demonstrators to put a thin
> plastic coating over a 13 gram steel core? People do."
>
> ;)

'course, if your people can get in touch with their people, and get me some
APDS-T rounds, that's prolly most humane....little bitty holes instead of
huge exit wounds ;)

D
Message no. 13
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:25:00 +0200
According to Derek Hyde, on 13-10-05 19:20 the word on the street was...

> 'course, if your people can get in touch with their people, and get me some
> APDS-T rounds, that's prolly most humane....little bitty holes instead of
> huge exit wounds ;)

Any preference for caliber? I might be able to get a good deal on
military surplus 105-mm ... :)

--
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I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours
-> Possibly NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
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Message no. 14
From: The_Sarge@***.de (MatthÀus_Cebulla)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:31:06 +0200
> Any preference for caliber? I might be able to get a good deal on
> military surplus 105-mm ... :)

"Dude, 105-mm? I want to punctuate those hippies, not blow them to tiny
pieces! What did your mil-contact do, steal a load of AAA-guns?" ...
*grins* ;)

> --
> Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html

Matthäus
Message no. 15
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:46:52 +0200
According to Matthäus Cebulla, on 13-10-05 19:31 the word on the street
was...

> "Dude, 105-mm? I want to punctuate those hippies, not blow them to tiny
> pieces! What did your mil-contact do, steal a load of AAA-guns?" ...
> *grins* ;)

These are suitable for crowd control. Just fire into the ground a few
meters in front of them like you should have been taught.

--
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I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours
-> Possibly NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
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Message no. 16
From: The_Sarge@***.de (MatthÀus_Cebulla)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:50:48 +0200
> These are suitable for crowd control. Just fire into the ground a few
> meters in front of them like you should have been taught.

"Whoa... Remind me of never having my gang have a riot in a city you, or
someone buying stuff from you, might be at, at the time!"

(I would sooo love to see Knight Errant actually use this method in
the Barrens once. Naturally, these protestors, were 'endangering Ares
employees and property'. *grins*)

> --
> Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html

Matthäus
Message no. 17
From: snicker@*********.net (Snicker)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:09:34 -0500
At 12:05 PM 10/13/2005, you wrote:
>According to Derek Hyde, on 13-10-05 18:46 the word on the street was...
>
>>Don't feel bad, I don't think I'll be able to get Gel Rounds in time for the
>>run....
>
>Gel rounds? Real runners use explosive ammo :)


Ack! You might hit the book!

*snicker*
Message no. 18
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:29:33 +0200
According to Snicker, on 13-10-05 20:09 the word on the street was...

> Ack! You might hit the book!

A true hardback should be strong enough to resist that, shouldn't it? ;)

--
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I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours
-> Possibly NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

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M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 19
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin M)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:50:26 -0700
On 10/13/05, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
>
> According to Snicker, on 13-10-05 20:09 the word on the street was...
>
> > Ack! You might hit the book!
>
> A true hardback should be strong enough to resist that, shouldn't it? ;)
>

Question is, what's the armor rating of an SR4 hardback LE?

Zebulin

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Message no. 20
From: snicker@*********.net (Snicker)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:40:25 -0500
At 01:50 PM 10/13/2005, Zeb wrote:
>On 10/13/05, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> >
> > According to Snicker, on 13-10-05 20:09 the word on the street was...
> >
> > > Ack! You might hit the book!
> >
> > A true hardback should be strong enough to resist that, shouldn't it? ;)
> >
>
>Question is, what's the armor rating of an SR4 hardback LE?


I dunno - this doesn't feel like a very "hard" back.

Uh oh...

*takes his LE and runs far far far away*

Snicker
Message no. 21
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin M)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:46:19 -0700
On 10/13/05, Snicker <snicker@*********.net> wrote:
>
>
> I dunno - this doesn't feel like a very "hard" back.
>
> Uh oh...
>
> *takes his LE and runs far far far away*
>
> Snicker
>
>
>
YOU got a hardcover? Damn! Congrats, once again on winning the raffle. Ya
Nob!

d:

Zebulin
*thinking there's something not right about that*

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Message no. 22
From: owen@***.edu.au (Owen McKerrow)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:32:51 +1000
> He may have, and his store didn't end up ordering enough to get him
> one.
>
> Unfortunatly this is apparently VERY common. I' talked to a couple
> store
> owners just before Gen Con, and both were positive that their
> distributors
> would be able to get them an LE or 2, despite neither planning to
> purchase
> 12 copies. When I mentioned that the 12 book deal was a limit
> imposed the
> the publisher, both laughed and commented something to the effect of
> having
> a good relationship with their distributor and being able to get
> hooked
> up.
>
> Add to this the apparent confusion regarding the 12 book limit
> rule. It
> seems to have been a combination of distributor and retailer
> miscommunication, misunderstanding, or flat out lying because a lot of
> folks
> are saying that they didn't know or weren't told, or were told
> wrong (6
> per
> LE seems to be a common one). I do know FanPro has said repeatedly
> since
> the
> GAMA Trade Show back in what, March? That the deal was 12 for one.
>
> It is a sucky situation :(
>
> Bull
>
>

Spot on! You know what REALLY irritates the hell out of me, though? The
store DID order enough to get a single Limited Edition. You know who
got it?
The one guy who works there, doesn't play Shadowrun, and who I told the
Limited Edition would be worth a couple hundred dollars (stupidly
opened my
mouth before I had the book in hand). In addition, he's the one guy I
remember from high school that I absolutely could not stand cause of his
holier than thou attitude.

Aargh!

*thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the LE book*

Zebulin

You should try and find out who your local store was getting them
from. Cause my local didn't order enough ( i.e. 12 ) to get a LE, but
when they spoke to their distributor they were able to, if the case
actually happens, get a LE after the promotion. i.e. The distributor
orders 25 books = 2 LE. He then passes these onto the local gaming
stores. One store takes 13 so they get the one LE and 2 other stores
take 7 and 5, so neither of these have enough to get an LE but the
distributor still has 1 sitting in their wharehouse. My local was
able to "reserve" me this copy if this situation arises, still
haven't heard if Im getting one or not.

Alvorn
Message no. 23
From: derek@***************.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:40:24 -0500
>> 'course, if your people can get in touch with their people, and get me some
>> APDS-T rounds, that's prolly most humane....little bitty holes instead of
>> huge exit wounds ;)
>
> Any preference for caliber? I might be able to get a good deal on
> military surplus 105-mm ... :)

.338 Ultra ;) I'd say .338 Lapua Magnum, but I can't find an AW-M that's
been legalized for civilian sale...
Message no. 24
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
--- Zebulin M <zebulingod@*****.com> wrote:

> Aargh!
>
> *thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the
> LE book*

Dude, it seems to me there's some left over here
still:

http://www.studio2publishing.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id!9

Easier than tasering somebody out of a book they won't
be appreciating :-O.

cheers,

Jan Jaap




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Message no. 25
From: owen@***.edu.au (Owen McKerrow)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:20:05 +1000
On 14/10/2005, at 8:52 AM, Jan Jaap van Poelgeest wrote:

> --- Zebulin M <zebulingod@*****.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Aargh!
>>
>> *thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the
>> LE book*
>>
>
> Dude, it seems to me there's some left over here
> still:
>
> http://www.studio2publishing.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id!9
>
> Easier than tasering somebody out of a book they won't
> be appreciating :-O.
>
> cheers,
>
> Jan Jaap

As long as you don't need to ship it to anywhere outside of the US.
While it doesn't make it any more difficult if you wish to do so, it
does make it far more expensie than mounting a run against them ; )
Message no. 26
From: snicker@*********.net (Snicker)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:23:18 -0500
At 03:46 PM 10/13/2005, you wrote:
>On 10/13/05, Snicker <snicker@*********.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I dunno - this doesn't feel like a very "hard" back.
> >
> > Uh oh...
> >
> > *takes his LE and runs far far far away*
> >
> > Snicker
> >
> >
> >
>YOU got a hardcover? Damn! Congrats, once again on winning the raffle. Ya
>Nob!


Well, the raffle was the reason I ordered the hardcover. I figured if I
was going to have a softcover, I might as well have the hardcover for
myself and the softcover for my friends. But I ordered direct from
Battlecorps, and early enough that I got confirmation before Gen Con was over.

Snicker
Message no. 27
From: ivan.upton@****.ca (Ivan Upton)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:18:32 -0700
Gurth wrote:

> According to Snicker, on 13-10-05 20:09 the word on the street was...
>
>> Ack! You might hit the book!
>
>
> A true hardback should be strong enough to resist that, shouldn't it? ;)
>
What is the Barrier rating of the SR4 LE hardcover? :-D
Message no. 28
From: ivan.upton@****.ca (Ivan Upton)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:15:23 -0700
Zebulin M wrote:

>On 10/13/05, Bull <bullcon@*****.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On 10/13/05, bandwidthoracle <bandwidthoracle@*******.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:31 PM, zebulingod wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yeah, I got the call today. Also got the bad news: No Limited
>>>>Edition for
>>>>me. Not really surprised, but am rather unhappy.
>>>>
>>>>Grrr...
>>>>
>>>>Zebulin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Did you specifically pre-order a limited?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>He may have, and his store didn't end up ordering enough to get him one.
>>
>>Unfortunatly this is apparently VERY common. I' talked to a couple store
>>owners just before Gen Con, and both were positive that their distributors
>>would be able to get them an LE or 2, despite neither planning to purchase
>>12 copies. When I mentioned that the 12 book deal was a limit imposed the
>>the publisher, both laughed and commented something to the effect of
>>having
>>a good relationship with their distributor and being able to get hooked
>>up.
>>
>>Add to this the apparent confusion regarding the 12 book limit rule. It
>>seems to have been a combination of distributor and retailer
>>miscommunication, misunderstanding, or flat out lying because a lot of
>>folks
>>are saying that they didn't know or weren't told, or were told wrong (6
>>per
>>LE seems to be a common one). I do know FanPro has said repeatedly since
>>the
>>GAMA Trade Show back in what, March? That the deal was 12 for one.
>>
>>It is a sucky situation :(
>>
>>Bull
>>
>>
>>
>
>Spot on! You know what REALLY irritates the hell out of me, though? The
>store DID order enough to get a single Limited Edition. You know who got it?
>The one guy who works there, doesn't play Shadowrun, and who I told the
>Limited Edition would be worth a couple hundred dollars (stupidly opened my
>mouth before I had the book in hand). In addition, he's the one guy I
>remember from high school that I absolutely could not stand cause of his
>holier than thou attitude.
>
>Aargh!
>
>*thinks about arranging a run in RL to "extract" the LE book*
>
>Zebulin
>
did you specifically order it though? including prepaying for the LE
copy? if so, then binky at the store committed theft and you can involve
the police.

my 2 cents

Aethelwulf

P.S. for my campaign that I am planning I am creating an adept's
initiatory group based on a card from Steve Jacksons INWO card game. the
card is the joggers. I can't remember the details but it is a card you
can use to assassinate a personality in someone elses power structure.
they will be assassins for higher, and kill their targets on the street
while jogging.... because no one ever suspects the joggers. feel free to
use my adept group idea. and credit goes to Steve Jackon Games for the
original idea that inspired mine :D

P.P.S wow that was a long post script LOL
Message no. 29
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR4 Books at Local Store
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:59:37 +0100
According to Ivan Upton, on 1-11-05 02:18 the word on the street was...

>> A true hardback should be strong enough to resist that, shouldn't it? ;)
>>
> What is the Barrier rating of the SR4 LE hardcover? :-D

Not too high, it feels a bit less sturdy than the SR3 LE, TBH. Call it 2
in either system (SR1/II/3 and SR4).

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