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Message no. 1
From: weberm@*******.net (Michael Weber)
Subject: SR4 comments (Was: SR4 will
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:48:11 -0400
Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:

>Those were the days when there were not definitions of where each skill
>level stood, relatively speaking. And going by the number of NPCs with
>skills in that kind of area in SR1 products, it looks to me like FASA at
>the time felt that 6 was not "very good", but rather "typical for a
>shadowrunner". I mean, the KE security guards in Dragon Hunt had Armed
>Combat 8, Firearms 8, and Unarmed Combat 6, and the PCs got to face a
>couple dozen of these guys...

But considering how messed up the stats of their contacts are, I treat it with
an industrial-sized bag of salt.
Message no. 2
From: zebulingod@*******.net (Zebulin)
Subject: SR4 comments (Was: SR4 will
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:43:42 -0700
Max Noel wrote:
>
> More like 40, actually (SOTA '63, Leopard-III MBT). The
> only way to damage a tank is to use a naval-scale weapon
> against it (which is exactly what they do -- the Leopard-III
> is armed with a light railgun IIRC).
>

OR:

A troll physad with maxed natural STR, and all his power points dumped into
STR, with a compound bow and di-koted arrows.

*eg*

Zebulin

>From The Top 100 Things I'd Do
If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord

15. I will never employ any device with a digital countdown. If I find that
such a device is absolutely unavoidable, I will set it to activate when the
counter reaches 117 and the hero is just putting his plan into operation.
Message no. 3
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: SR4 comments (Was: SR4 will
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:19:23 -0700 (PDT)
--- Zebulin <zebulingod@*******.net> wrote:
> Max Noel wrote:
> >
> > More like 40, actually (SOTA '63, Leopard-III
> MBT). The
> > only way to damage a tank is to use a naval-scale
> weapon
> > against it (which is exactly what they do -- the
> Leopard-III
> > is armed with a light railgun IIRC).
> >
>
> OR:
>
> A troll physad with maxed natural STR, and all his
> power points dumped into
> STR, with a compound bow and di-koted arrows.
>
> *eg*

Said troll would still have a great deal of trouble
damaging the MBT: the arrows lack the explosive charge
that's supposed to devastate the tank's insides. If
the troll aims *really well* he/she might
hit/damage/disable a (critical) system. Basing oneself
purely on the SR3 damage model a troll might manage
it, but (realistically) only by virtue of *somehow*
getting in the lucky shots all the time.

Perhaps there's something I don't know about hitting
thick layers of armour with dikoted arrows, but going
on physics alone it doesn't seem like it should work
the way the SR3 damage model would make it (which is a
good sign, because the idea's just silly if it'd work
that well -armies might prefer training troll physads
to buying more MBTs).

cheers,

Jan Jaap



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Message no. 4
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: SR4 comments (Was: SR4 will
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:58:02 +0200 (CEST)
--- Zebulin <zebulingod@*******.net> wrote:
> Max Noel wrote:
> >
> > More like 40, actually (SOTA '63, Leopard-III
> MBT). The
> > only way to damage a tank is to use a naval-scale
> weapon
> > against it (which is exactly what they do -- the
> Leopard-III
> > is armed with a light railgun IIRC).
> >
>
> OR:
>
> A troll physad with maxed natural STR, and all his
> power points dumped into
> STR, with a compound bow and di-koted arrows.
>
> *eg*
>
> Zebulin

Mmh... That still wouldn't be enough. Attack power is
divided by 2 against vehicle armor. Unless you're
using naval weapons, you need an attack power of 81 or
more to damage the thing.

-- Wild_Cat






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