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Message no. 1
From: JOHANNA BURWELL-KALES <burwell@******.EDU>
Subject: Re: SR + ED=?
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 00:11:55 -0700
If the two worlds are related, then possibly T'skrang could be
somewhere on the world of SR, frozen or something. Then what about
obsidemen and i already know the lengthy talk we all had on Horrors and
Astral space in SR. Also, i have only read all the novels about ED, is
the game any fun to play. I mean as much fun as SR?

Hi-Ho SilVers away and remember the Alamo? ( huh? )
Message no. 2
From: Ivy Ryan <ivyryan@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: SR + ED=?
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:17:48 -0700
There's an idea floating around my head that the VITAS (second epidemic)
might have been tailored to get rid of the T'Skrang.

On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, JOHANNA BURWELL-KALES wrote:

> If the two worlds are related, then possibly T'skrang could be
> somewhere on the world of SR, frozen or something. Then what about
> obsidemen and i already know the lengthy talk we all had on Horrors and
> Astral space in SR. Also, i have only read all the novels about ED, is
> the game any fun to play. I mean as much fun as SR?

I found ED to be a stone pain to play. It was new at the time, but my
players generally did themselves more damage by using their "abilities"
than the monsters ever did to them. Also, the ED dice system absolutely
hurts. It is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen short of
Ysgarth; tRPS.

On the other hand, if you use the "Steps" for everything, and drop each
one by 1, then it works real well as a SRII supplement. And the ED magic
system isn't hard to port over to SRII if you want to bring the ancient
elves into some use. Not that I do, but I had to whilst my PC were
negotiating with them about a run in which they had been set up. ED
magic can be interesting, because if a mage assenses it, they still can't
translate it into SRII specs, so they can't understand how Ehran and -H-
managed to bug out through the etheric 'physically'.

IMNSHO ED isn't as much fun, but it is useful for the SRII GM because it
does have a lot of useful background.

BTW, Thira is an existing island in the Med. a bit south east of a line
from greece to rhodes. Been there, lotsa ruins, but as of 1967 they were
all thought to be greek.

Ivy
Message no. 3
From: Kristling Ravenwing <kristling@*******.CROSSWINDS.NET>
Subject: [SR/ED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:28:37 -0500
Why don't we form a list for ed- SR continuity? Some members on this and
iquest ED list have complained about the crossover, otherslike it. A
seperate list will allow those who like to have these converts. If I could
form it on my IP, I'd be list leader.:)
Message no. 4
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:36:35 -0800
At 19:28 1/14/98 -0500, Kristling Ravenwing wrote:
>Why don't we form a list for ed- SR continuity? Some members on this and
>iquest ED list have complained about the crossover, otherslike it. A
>seperate list will allow those who like to have these converts. If I could
>form it on my IP, I'd be list leader.:)

I'll vote for it, though I don't have time to administer such a list...

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Message no. 5
From: William Gallas <wgallas@*****.FR>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:38:22 +0100
>Why don't we form a list for ed- SR continuity? Some members on this and
>iquest ED list have complained about the crossover, otherslike it. A
>seperate list will allow those who like to have these converts. If I could
>form it on my IP, I'd be list leader.:)

Perhaps an other solution could be to write a [SR/ED] in the subject for
every post like this. Rhis would allow those who don't want to see it to
redirect them to trash.
I think it's a better solution 'cause a list on such a subject would
prevent most to participate and wouldn't provide many mails.


Cobra.

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Message no. 6
From: Andy Gardner <A.Gardner@******.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:50:13 +0000
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:28:37 -0500 Kristling Ravenwing wrote

> Why don't we form a list for ed- SR continuity? Some members on this and
> iquest ED list have complained about the crossover, otherslike it. A
> seperate list will allow those who like to have these converts. If I could
> form it on my IP, I'd be list leader.:)

Be my guest and tell me when and where you've set it up.
I'm sure that some of the current management will be able to
warn (err, guide) you about the potential pitfalls and effort
required to run a list.


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Message no. 7
From: Damon Harper <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:04:12 PST
>Why don't we form a list for ed- SR continuity? Some members on this
and
>iquest ED list have complained about the crossover, otherslike it. A
>seperate list will allow those who like to have these converts. If I
could
>form it on my IP, I'd be list leader.:)
>

A very good idea, but I don't think it would really be needed. Just
putting [ED/SR] in the header should suffice. But then again, that
still doesn't stop most people from bringing up their opinion on the
topic, so maybe your right and I'm wrong...


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Message no. 8
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:23:57 -0500
On 15 Jan 98 at 11:04, Damon Harper wrote:

> A very good idea, but I don't think it would really be needed.
> Just
> putting [ED/SR] in the header should suffice. But then again, that
> still doesn't stop most people from bringing up their opinion on the
> topic, so maybe your right and I'm wrong...

Yea, take that crap to another list. I play Shadowrun. This is a
Shadowrun list. I don't give a damn about Earthdawn. If you want to
talk about Earthdawn, take it somewhere else. It will save me the
trouble of deleting the messages.

I wish Earthdawn crap was considered OT so the Admin's would kill
the threads, but for some reason it isn't. Oh well.

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Message no. 9
From: James Paul Morgan <jpmorgan@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:59:58 -0700
Drekhead wrote:
>
> On 15 Jan 98 at 11:04, Damon Harper wrote:
>
> > putting [ED/SR] in the header should suffice. But then again, that
> > still doesn't stop most people from bringing up their opinion on the
> > topic, so maybe your right and I'm wrong...
>
> Yea, take that crap to another list. I play Shadowrun. This is a
> Shadowrun list. I don't give a damn about Earthdawn. If you want to
> talk about Earthdawn, take it somewhere else. It will save me the
> trouble of deleting the messages.
>
> I wish Earthdawn crap was considered OT so the Admin's would kill
> the threads, but for some reason it isn't. Oh well.
>

Relax. Earthdawn and Shadowrun are linked heavily, one being the
history of the other. There are plenty of threads here that get way off
topic, or which spend letter after letter THWAPng and talking about
THWAPing, or just ramble on about nothing. Do to the "[ED/SR]" heading
is what I do to 90% of the letters on subjects that go on and on,
"DELETE". If you have a decent mailer, you can even delete everything
in a thread, never having read any of it.

I, for one, would much rather have the ED stuff here. I read it and
consider using it for my SR. Of course, I have run both Harlequin books
and have been using the Enemy since the very first adventure with this
group. I say keep the ED stuff coming on this list, as long as it
discusses how to adapt and use ED in SR, and is not some sort of
digression into ED itself.

Btw, if anyone knows a good system for converting Horrors and other RD
critters to SR, I have a friend who wants such a system for the SR game
she is now running. If you have or know of one, drop me an E-mail
please.


See ya around the Mulberry bush.

--James

:)
Message no. 10
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:13:39 -0500
On 15 Jan 98 at 12:59, James Paul Morgan wrote:

> Drekhead wrote:
> > Yea, take that crap to another list. I play Shadowrun. This is a
> > Shadowrun list. I don't give a damn about Earthdawn. If you want to
> > talk about Earthdawn, take it somewhere else. It will save me the
> > trouble of deleting the messages.

> Relax. Earthdawn and Shadowrun are linked heavily, one being the
> history of the other.

In your campaign, maybe. Not in mine. When a Shadowrun book
specifically makes a reference to an Earthdawn book, I might be
inclined to agree with you.

> There are plenty of threads here that get way
> off topic, or which spend letter after letter THWAPng and talking
> about THWAPing, or just ramble on about nothing. Do to the
> "[ED/SR]" heading is what I do to 90% of the letters on subjects
> that go on and on, "DELETE". If you have a decent mailer, you can
> even delete everything in a thread, never having read any of it.

The exact answer came up when arguing against general OT topics, and
was summarily dismissed by the list.

> I, for one, would much rather have the ED stuff here.

Why? This is not an Earthdawn list.

>I read it and
> consider using it for my SR. Of course, I have run both Harlequin
> books and have been using the Enemy since the very first adventure
> with this group. I say keep the ED stuff coming on this list, as
> long as it discusses how to adapt and use ED in SR, and is not some
> sort of digression into ED itself.

Not acceptable. There is an Earthdawn list, appropriately so. And
there is a Shadowrun list. Likewise. If you want to play both games
and combine the two, more power to you, but leave me the hell out of
it.

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Message no. 11
From: James Paul Morgan <jpmorgan@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:03:22 -0700
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Drekhead wrote:

> > Relax. Earthdawn and Shadowrun are linked heavily, one being the
> > history of the other.
>
> In your campaign, maybe. Not in mine. When a Shadowrun book
> specifically makes a reference to an Earthdawn book, I might be
> inclined to agree with you.
> [SNIP]
> Not acceptable. There is an Earthdawn list, appropriately so. And
> there is a Shadowrun list. Likewise. If you want to play both games
> and combine the two, more power to you, but leave me the hell out of
> it.

First of all, I'm not trying to start a flame war.

I use some, but not all, of the fiction books as background to my
campaign. Mostly, I use them for the "look and feel" for the world and
for stuff like places and people. I know they are not "cannon" and that
some people are very opposed to them. I know that there are artistic
licenses taken that contradict source books or other fiction books.

There have been references in fiction to the two worlds. In fact, every
race from ED except for the T'skrang have appeard in SR source books.
(Some you have to look for a little bit.) Basically, Harlequin, Ehran,
the dragons, and other immortals lived in the ED world. There's even
mention to a free spirit living near the Tir boarder that claims to be
from the cycle before that. (I'm not sure which source book it was in.
It was a decker comment.)

Now, I know immortals are HATED by some of this list. I'm really not
trying to discuss whether they are valid or not. I'm saying that if you
take them as valid, which a number of us do, then the ED stuff is valid.
As the magic starts to rise, the Horrors (Enemy) will return. Other stuff
will develop. Of course, the really ED type stuff like spell weaving
won't becuase it will take 1,000 years or so to get mangic to the right
level.


I'm sorry if I got any of the ED terms wrong. I've only played it a few
times. I have mostly read source books that others own so I can
incorporate the Enemy more into my game. (That should scare any of my
players that are reading this list...) I could also be wrong about the
races, but every race I've read about in the main book is one that also
exists in either the main SR book or one of the paranormals. (Windlings
are not considered sentient. I think they're in the Europe book, but I
don't remember the new name.)


See ya around the Mulberry bush.

--James
(Mission Specialist for the Ventrue on Mars project.)

:)
Message no. 12
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:24:59 -0500
On 15 Jan 98 at 14:03, James Paul Morgan wrote:

> First of all, I'm not trying to start a flame war.

Neither am I. I am not denying you to use Earthdawn concepts in your
campaign, or saying your wrong to do it. Simply, once again, I do not
think that Earthdawn talk belongs on a Shadowrun list. Period.

I just wish the Admin's agreed with me... :(

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Message no. 13
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:27:31 -0800
At 12:59 1/15/98 -0700, James Paul Morgan wrote:
>> Yea, take that crap to another list. I play Shadowrun. This is a
>> Shadowrun list. I don't give a damn about Earthdawn. If you want to
>> talk about Earthdawn, take it somewhere else. It will save me the
>> trouble of deleting the messages.

It would also be useful to have a separate list so that people who play
ED but don't want the huge volume of the ShadowRN list coming in could
subscribe just for the crossover part.

>Btw, if anyone knows a good system for converting Horrors and other RD
>critters to SR, I have a friend who wants such a system for the SR game
>she is now running. If you have or know of one, drop me an E-mail
>please.

Check out <http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/bestiary.html>;. I've got
some Critters converted. (For players familiar with the SR material, a
few small surprises from ED make for fun...)

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Message no. 14
From: Andy Gardner <A.Gardner@******.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:49:21 +0000
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:59:58 -0700 James Paul Morgan asked


> Btw, if anyone knows a good system for converting Horrors and other RD
> critters to SR, I have a friend who wants such a system for the SR game
> she is now running. If you have or know of one, drop me an E-mail
> please.

No solid system but think about this. The Azi blood-Gestalt from
Threats is described as looking like a horror when active.
Work out it's stats and use that as a base. I know it hurts even if
you just use grade 1 or 2 initiates in the gestalt but hey, whoever
said that horrors are weak ?


Fox on the Net
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Message no. 15
From: Andy Gardner <A.Gardner@******.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:49:21 +0000
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:24:59 -0500 Drekhead wrote

> On 15 Jan 98 at 14:03, James Paul Morgan wrote:
>
> > First of all, I'm not trying to start a flame war.
>
> Neither am I. I am not denying you to use Earthdawn concepts in your
> campaign, or saying your wrong to do it. Simply, once again, I do not
> think that Earthdawn talk belongs on a Shadowrun list. Period.
>
> I just wish the Admin's agreed with me... :(

While I personally agree with the seperate list idea I think that
there are enough links to state that ED and SR are linked.
Look at Harlequins back and tell me that that doesn't relate to ED
and thats a published adventure, not a fiction novel.

And I've got the impression that the Dragon Heart series is being
carefully written and supposedly considered canon. IF that is true
then that is more cross-over proof.
In fact, if that trend continues then there will be other mana-spikes
(delta clinics anybody ?) and other places for horrors to come
through and the ED trend in SR will increase. Afterall, they might
well hope that it'll boost ED sales.
If that is the case then we are justifiably discusing the future of
SR here. Personally I hope not but it's a thought to keep in mind.


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Message no. 16
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:13:20 -0500
On 15 Jan 98 at 21:49, Andy Gardner wrote:

> While I personally agree with the seperate list idea I think that
> there are enough links to state that ED and SR are linked. Look at
> Harlequins back and tell me that that doesn't relate to ED and thats
> a published adventure, not a fiction novel.

It was a cool adventure, but you can play it, use it, and enjoy it
and not ever know or care about Earthdawn. Earthdawn is not a
prerequisite.

> And I've got the impression that the Dragon Heart series is being
> carefully written and supposedly considered canon. IF that is true
> then that is more cross-over proof. In fact, if that trend continues
> then there will be other mana-spikes (delta clinics anybody ?) and
> other places for horrors to come through and the ED trend in SR will
> increase. Afterall, they might well hope that it'll boost ED sales.
> If that is the case then we are justifiably discusing the future of
> SR here. Personally I hope not but it's a thought to keep in mind.

Actually, I think the opposite is true. Tom Dowd the original line
developer got wood with the whole IE and Earthdawn crossover
crap. Mike Mulvihill is less thrilled about the whole notion, to
put it lightly. I think the Dragon Heart series and Dunklezahn's
death are to put an end to the whole nonsense, once and for all.
At least, I hope so.

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Message no. 17
From: James Paul Morgan <jpmorgan@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:18:59 -0700
Someone sent me a link to a web page with some critters, some of which
were converted ED. Unfortunately, my school system dumped the connection
while I was trying to read that mail, which deleted the mail. Could you
possibly send it to me (directly) again, please? I don't even know who
sent it becuase I hadn't read the sig yet. *sigh*


See ya around the Mulberry bush.

--James
(Mission Specialist for the Ventrue on Mars project.)

:)
Message no. 18
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:17:09 EST
> Neither am I. I am not denying you to use Earthdawn concepts in your
> campaign, or saying your wrong to do it. Simply, once again, I do
> not think that Earthdawn talk belongs on a Shadowrun list. Period.
>
> I just wish the Admin's agreed with me... :(

I think that's a little harsh. I mean, we have all sorts of talk
about things that are considered On Topic if they have use to
someone's SR campaign...in some cases, things so weird only one
person is going to use it. Why not with SR/ED tie togethers, if they
are going to be used by someone for SR?

Wild ED topics aren't appropriate, but everything I've seen has been
keeping it close to SR.

If anything,I'd expect you to be thanking the people who label the
threads as SR/ED, since that gives you a sorting method. Of course,
that assumes that you would be unsuccessful in stopping the
conversations...

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 19
From: William Gallas <wgallas@*****.FR>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:06:42 +0100
>I, for one, would much rather have the ED stuff here. I read it and
>consider using it for my SR. Of course, I have run both Harlequin books
>and have been using the Enemy since the very first adventure with this
>group. I say keep the ED stuff coming on this list, as long as it
>discusses how to adapt and use ED in SR, and is not some sort of
>digression into ED itself.
>
>Btw, if anyone knows a good system for converting Horrors and other RD
>critters to SR, I have a friend who wants such a system for the SR game
>she is now running. If you have or know of one, drop me an E-mail
>please.

As I see it, ED steps are on the same scale as SR attributes. To adapt
creatures, you only have to translate attributes :
Dexterity is Quickness, Perception is Intelligence and Toughness is Body.
Take the init score as the reaction of the creature or use [Q+I]/2.
Use the number of attacks as the number of dices to init.

For the attack, the score given is the number of dices you'll roll to attack.
For damage, use the number given as the power of the attack. To get the
damage level, use the number divided by 5. Thus a damage of 12 would become
12M.

Spellcasting is the sorcery skill of the creature.

Physical and mystic armors must be changed a bit. You'll have to estimate
the actual values for ballistic. For impact, use armor rating / 2. Mystic
armor is used as shielding for initiates.

Creatures from earthdawn do have karma. Use a karma pool equal to the
number of karma points. The karma step is either the threat rating of the
being or max number of karma points a creature can spend on a test.

For powers and spells, you'll have to do some changes but it's quite easy...
For spellcasting, use these rules :
Thread weaving : TN = thread weaving target (the first) - Circle of the adept.
You move one thread per success. In place of the second number, you move
one thread per 2 successes.
Sorcery : Spellcasting
Force of spell : Willforce. Yep, that means adepts know all their spells at
the same level, automatically. See how many powerful beings have spell
forces at the same level.
Damage of spell : Use the bonus to have the level and the bonus to power.
Drain level is obtained by taking the biggest level equivalent that can be
extracted from damage bonus. Light is 1, moderate is 3, serious is 6 and
deadly is 10. The reest is a bonus to power. Thus a spell with damage equal
to Willforce+3 would become (Willforce)M. With Willforce+9, it would become
(Willforce+3)S.

About talents :
Talents are different from skills. I give the ed creatures and adepts
normal skills. For talents, I consider they are much more powerful. To get
the SR equivalent, use a number of dices for tests equal to Attribute+Rank.
Thus a fighter with a quickness of 5 and melee weapons of 3 would roll 8
dices!

Hope it helps. If you need some precision, just ask for it.


Cobra.

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Message no. 20
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:32:57 +0000
And verily, did Drekhead hastily scribble thusly...
|
|On 15 Jan 98 at 14:03, James Paul Morgan wrote:
|
|> First of all, I'm not trying to start a flame war.
|
|Neither am I. I am not denying you to use Earthdawn concepts in your
|campaign, or saying your wrong to do it. Simply, once again, I do not
|think that Earthdawn talk belongs on a Shadowrun list. Period.

Tough!
:)

As long as it's not PURE earthdawn talk, and shadowrun is the final goal of
the conversation, then it IS on topic.

Sorry Drekhead, but this is one time when I think you're wrong to try to
impose your prejudices on the rest of the list.

|I just wish the Admin's agreed with me... :(

As long as shadowrun is involved somewhere, it's not off topic, even if
earthdawn IS mentioned. You don't play shadowrun like that, some people do.

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Message no. 21
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:51:36 -0500
On 16 Jan 98 at 13:32, Spike wrote:

> Tough!
> :)
> As long as it's not PURE earthdawn talk, and shadowrun is the final
> goal of the conversation, then it IS on topic.

Hehe. Spike talking about what is on topic. You got to love the
irony. :)

> Sorry Drekhead, but this is one time when I think you're wrong to
> try to impose your prejudices on the rest of the list.

Impose my prejudices? You give me too much credit. I was just stating
my opinion about something I feel strongly about, and hopefully
someone (especially a majority of someones) will agree with me. If
not, oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

> As long as shadowrun is involved somewhere, it's not off topic, even
> if earthdawn IS mentioned. You don't play shadowrun like that, some
> people do.

As I said, more power to you. Play your game how you want.

I suppose if I start talking about how to link Star Trek and
Shadowrun, you will sit quietly then? After all, Shadowrun will be
involved somewhere, and Shadowrun is the final goal of the
conversation, so it is on topic, right? :)

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Message no. 22
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:53:38 +0000
And verily, did Drekhead hastily scribble thusly...
|
|On 16 Jan 98 at 13:32, Spike wrote:
|
|> Tough!
|> :)
|> As long as it's not PURE earthdawn talk, and shadowrun is the final
|> goal of the conversation, then it IS on topic.
|
|Hehe. Spike talking about what is on topic. You got to love the
|irony. :)
|
|I suppose if I start talking about how to link Star Trek and
|Shadowrun, you will sit quietly then? After all, Shadowrun will be
|involved somewhere, and Shadowrun is the final goal of the
|conversation, so it is on topic, right? :)

SIT QUIETLY????
With me being such an incurable trekkie??
Of course I wouldn't! I'd join in!

:)

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Message no. 23
From: "David R. Lowe" <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:33:42 -0800
At 5:53 PM 1/16/98, Spike wrote:
>And verily, did Drekhead hastily scribble thusly...

>|I suppose if I start talking about how to link Star Trek and
>|Shadowrun, you will sit quietly then? After all, Shadowrun will be
>|involved somewhere, and Shadowrun is the final goal of the
>|conversation, so it is on topic, right? :)
>
>SIT QUIETLY????
>With me being such an incurable trekkie??
>Of course I wouldn't! I'd join in!
>
>:)
>

And then of course Spike would immediately take it off topic.

:)

D. Taking this thread OT "Hello Kettle, this is Pot. You're black."

David R. Lowe (dlowe@*********.com)
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Message no. 24
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [SR/ED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:34:23 EST
> |I suppose if I start talking about how to link Star Trek and
> |Shadowrun, you will sit quietly then? After all, Shadowrun will be
> |involved somewhere, and Shadowrun is the final goal of the
> |conversation, so it is on topic, right? :)

Did you miss the "Jedi Physad" and "LightSaber" threads? If Star
wars is good, why not Trek?

Besides, as many people have said, there is lots of evidence of a tie
in between ED and SR. You have said also that ED is hardly a
prerequisite, which is also true. But then, ALL of our talk here
isn't a prerequisite.....

SR is SR, even ED/SR.

(Now, granted, it may be really horrible IE-type SR that you wouldn't
want within 10 light years of your campaign, but....)

As you said, no harm in trying though...:)

-=SwiftOne=-

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