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Message no. 1
From: mike_paff@**.Cubic.COM
Subject: SRII and Riggers
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:56:50 -0800
I've been asked to post a question for a friend. He hasn't yet had a chance to
join the mailing list himself.

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>From clwigda@******.gd.com Fri Jan 5 10:46 PST 1996
From: Craig L Wigda <clwigda@******.gd.com>
Subject: SRII and Riggers
To: mike_paff@**.Cubic.COM
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:45:28 -0800 (PST)

Hello:

I've got a few questions about riggers in SR. I'll give you a short background
on what I've got and know. I've got one rigger in our group. To this point
he has used only one drone or always been rigging his car or the van the PC's
have spent the money getting fixed up. Now they are in a situation where they
have to assault a building that has an assassin in it that they need to either
catch or kill (up to them). Here are my questions:

1) The rigger has 6 drones and a 4 port rigger remote control deck. Two of
the drones (if used) will be functioning on the AI level of the drone.
How do you determine what actions the drone can take (the AI ones)?

2) With the 4 port remote deck the rigger can switch between or control
4 drones. How is this handled? Can he see/shoot from all 4 in the
same combat phase/turn and/or move all 4 drones?

3) When the rigger is controlling 4 drones are all the drones working at
the riggers reaction? or is only one at the riggers reaction and 3 at
the AI level (this ties in with question 2)?

4) What does it take for a rigger to switch from one drone to the other?
Is it a free, simple, or complex action?

5) If the drone the rigger is controlling is damaged or destroyed, what kind
of damage (if any) does the rigger take (stun or physical) and how much
damage and how does he resist it?

6) If the rigger has sent out 6 drones (2 on AI and 4 controlled by his deck),
when one of the controlled drones is destroyed can he switch one of the
AI controlled drones over to his control? If so, what kind of action
is needed?

Thank You for any answers.


CLW

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Message no. 2
From: "Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: SRII and Riggers
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 08:45:20 GMT
> From: mike_paff@**.Cubic.COM writes

> I've been asked to post a question for a friend. He hasn't yet had a chance to
> join the mailing list himself.
>

> 1) The rigger has 6 drones and a 4 port rigger remote control deck. Two of
> the drones (if used) will be functioning on the AI level of the drone.
> How do you determine what actions the drone can take (the AI ones)?
>
FASA forgot that one, there was a discussion about this before
Christmas, something arround reac + 1D6 was the result, try the list
logs.

> 2) With the 4 port remote deck the rigger can switch between or control
> 4 drones. How is this handled? Can he see/shoot from all 4 in the
> same combat phase/turn and/or move all 4 drones?
>
He can act with one drone per action, the rest count as on 'AI'
autopilot and follow last orders, though that could allow them to
shoot.

> 3) When the rigger is controlling 4 drones are all the drones working at
> the riggers reaction? or is only one at the riggers reaction and 3 at
> the AI level (this ties in with question 2)?
>
The four would use riggers initative thats the limit the ports puts
on you. Note unless you spend an action per drone 'just controlling
drone' you have to make a crash tets for each forgotten drone, though
with those VCR -'s that should be a joke, usually is in my experience.

> 4) What does it take for a rigger to switch from one drone to the other?
> Is it a free, simple, or complex action?
>
free i think.

> 5) If the drone the rigger is controlling is damaged or destroyed, what kind
> of damage (if any) does the rigger take (stun or physical) and how much
> damage and how does he resist it?
>
its L stun. I think 6L resist willpower only. The rules in the main
book somewhere under drone destruction.

> 6) If the rigger has sent out 6 drones (2 on AI and 4 controlled by his deck),
> when one of the controlled drones is destroyed can he switch one of the
> AI controlled drones over to his control? If so, what kind of action
> is needed?
>
I think you can only switch btween the 4 becasue you only got 4 ports
though i suppose you could unplug one and plug another in for a
complex action. but the unplugged one would drop off rigged initative.

> Thank You for any answers.
>
>
> CLW

Mark
Message no. 3
From: pbailey@***.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au (Peter Bailey)
Subject: Re: SRII and Riggers
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 22:18:06
Hi mike_paff,

> I've been asked to post a question for a friend. He hasn't yet had a chance to
> join the mailing list himself.

Sure. Include away. Oh, you already have.

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>
> >From clwigda@******.gd.com Fri Jan 5 10:46 PST 1996
> From: Craig L Wigda <clwigda@******.gd.com>
> Subject: SRII and Riggers
> To: mike_paff@**.Cubic.COM
> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:45:28 -0800 (PST)
>
> Hello:
>
> I've got a few questions about riggers in SR. I'll give you a short background
> on what I've got and know. I've got one rigger in our group. To this point
> he has used only one drone or always been rigging his car or the van the PC's
> have spent the money getting fixed up. Now they are in a situation where they
> have to assault a building that has an assassin in it that they need to either
> catch or kill (up to them). Here are my questions:
>
> 1) The rigger has 6 drones and a 4 port rigger remote control deck. Two of
> the drones (if used) will be functioning on the AI level of the drone.
> How do you determine what actions the drone can take (the AI ones)?

Hmmm. There's been a big discussion on this one, and FASA has never cleared
it up. In my eyes (as a GM) if the rigger spends time controlling the drone
during a combat turn, the drone has his initiative.

> 2) With the 4 port remote deck the rigger can switch between or control
> 4 drones. How is this handled? Can he see/shoot from all 4 in the
> same combat phase/turn and/or move all 4 drones?

If it's a cybernetic control deck, it's the same as "issue cybernetic
command" ie. free. to change drones, but only one can be under direct
rigger control at any one time. (Unless you get into CCSS systems but
that's another kettle of fish). Otherwise he may issue a command to any one
drone as a simple (assuming cybernetic deck) action, or the same command to
all drones as a simple. ie. "Attack this target."

> 3) When the rigger is controlling 4 drones are all the drones working at
> the riggers reaction? or is only one at the riggers reaction and 3 at
> the AI level (this ties in with question 2)?

Provided the rigger spends time controlling the drone, it should be at his
reaction. Otherwise initiative for the drone is AP+1D6 according to general
concensus.

> 4) What does it take for a rigger to switch from one drone to the other?
> Is it a free, simple, or complex action?

Cybernetic deck = Free, Non-Cyber deck = Simple to change drones.

> 5) If the drone the rigger is controlling is damaged or destroyed, what kind
> of damage (if any) does the rigger take (stun or physical) and how much
> damage and how does he resist it?

That's in SRII I'm sure. I can't look it up at the moment though.

> 6) If the rigger has sent out 6 drones (2 on AI and 4 controlled by his deck),
> when one of the controlled drones is destroyed can he switch one of the
> AI controlled drones over to his control? If so, what kind of action
> is needed?

I would say yes, but it would be at least a complex action, and meanwhile
the non-controlled drones are ripe for opposing riggers to take over.



Hope this helps.

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