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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Bryan Pow)
Subject: SR- Militaries
Date: Wed Aug 15 22:05:04 2001
I need to know what each corporation has in the way of troops that can be
mobilised (tanks, planes, boats, soldiers the lot) including security
personel. And if someone is feeling REALLY helpful, could they give me an
estimate of the armed forces of the major countries.
This is for a Shadowrun LARP, where the players are the Big Ten, and may
start shooting at each other.
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: SR- Militaries
Date: Thu Aug 16 05:25:13 2001
According to Bryan Pow, on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 the word on the street was...

> I need to know what each corporation has in the way of troops that can be
> mobilised (tanks, planes, boats, soldiers the lot) including security
> personel. And if someone is feeling REALLY helpful, could they give me an
> estimate of the armed forces of the major countries.
> This is for a Shadowrun LARP, where the players are the Big Ten, and may
> start shooting at each other.

The only estimates given, AFAIK, are in Corporate Shadowfiles:

Ares: Light regiment/Exceptional (about 1,000 troops)
Aztechnology: Regiment or larger/Above average (2,000+ troops)
Fuchi: Company/Excellent (about 100 troops)
Mitsuhama: Company/Above average (about 100 troops)
Renraku: "None reported"
Shiawase: "None reported"
Saeder-Krupp: Battalion/Exceptional (about 500 troops)
Yamatetsu: "None reported"

What these mean, exactly, is up to you, I guess. You could also use the
Security rating given to the ten current megacorps in Corporate Download
(page 120) to judge each corp's effectiveness, but security != military
forces.

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Paul J. Adam)
Subject: SR- Militaries
Date: Thu Aug 16 21:10:12 2001
In article <l03130305b7a0d7e14657@[139.80.41.27]>, Bryan Pow
<powbr323@*******.otago.ac.nz> writes
> I need to know what each corporation has in the way of troops that can be
>mobilised (tanks, planes, boats, soldiers the lot) including security
>personel. And if someone is feeling REALLY helpful, could they give me an
>estimate of the armed forces of the major countries.

Corporations, don't have much military. A battalion or two at most: a
few hundred infantry, a dozen tanks, a battery of artillery, a dozen
fighters. Too much cost for no profit. The Seattle Metroplex Guard
probably outnumbers most corporate militaries (though the corporate
troops are better-equipped)

Security... lots of warm bodies, but "proper soldiers" will go through
them like a thermic lance through butter. Security don't have anti-
armour weapons, artillery support, MANPADs, sustained logistics or most
of the goodies needed to fight "real soldiers" just as most soldiers are
not well-suited to site security duties. Corporations lease or rent
soldiers from mercenary units when they need them, or persuade / beg /
blackmail / bribe nations into fighting their wars.


National militaries: guesstimate figures, the UCAS has about four to six
Army divisions, three Marine brigades, six to eight carrier battle
groups, six fighter wings, probably a couple of bomber squadrons. Plus
assorted supporting arms (those tending to be the unglamorous war-
winners: armies need food, water, fuel ammo, spare parts and
maintenance, medical supplies and skills, in prodigious quantities)

The UK - two full-deck carriers, two amphibious ships (one Marine
battalion deployable), two Army divisions, about six squadrons of combat
aircraft readily deployable.


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Paul J. Adam
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Bira)
Subject: SR- Militaries
Date: Fri Aug 17 00:00:04 2001
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:03:54 +0100
"Paul J. Adam" <ShadowRN@********.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Corporations, don't have much military. A battalion or two at most: a
> few hundred infantry, a dozen tanks, a battery of artillery, a dozen
> fighters. Too much cost for no profit. The Seattle Metroplex Guard
> probably outnumbers most corporate militaries (though the corporate
> troops are better-equipped)

But if they "rule the world" in the degree characters in fiction always
like to point out, they can pretty much control the armies of their "favored
nations". So, Ares may have only about 1.000 soldiers, but if they need more they can
pull some strings and have the UCAS army fighting for them. Same goes for S-K and Germany,
the Japan corps and, well, Japan :), Aztechnology and Aztlan (the most obvious example),
etc.


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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Mister Incognito)
Subject: SR- Militaries
Date: Tue Aug 28 12:30:01 2001
>>Bryan Pow wrote:
>>
>> I need to know what each corporation has in the way of troops that can
>>be
>>mobilised (tanks, planes, boats, soldiers the lot) including security
>>personel. And if someone is feeling REALLY helpful, could they give me an
>>estimate of the armed forces of the major countries.
>> This is for a Shadowrun LARP, where the players are the Big Ten, and may
>>start shooting at each other.

>Gurth wrote:
>
>According to Bryan Pow, on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 the word on the street was...
>
> > I need to know what each corporation has in the way of troops that can >be
> > mobilised (tanks, planes, boats, soldiers the lot) including security
> > personel. And if someone is feeling REALLY helpful, could they give me >an
> > estimate of the armed forces of the major countries.
> > This is for a Shadowrun LARP, where the players are the Big Ten, and m>ay
> > start shooting at each other.
>
>The only estimates given, AFAIK, are in Corporate Shadowfiles:
>
> Ares: Light regiment/Exceptional (about 1,000 troops)
> Aztechnology: Regiment or larger/Above average (2,000+ troops)
> Fuchi: Company/Excellent (about 100 troops)
> Mitsuhama: Company/Above average (about 100 troops)
> Renraku: "None reported"
> Shiawase: "None reported"
> Saeder-Krupp: Battalion/Exceptional (about 500 troops)
> Yamatetsu: "None reported"
>
>What these mean, exactly, is up to you, I guess. You could also use the
>Security rating given to the ten current megacorps in Corporate Download
>(page 120) to judge each corp's effectiveness, but security != military
>forces.

Well in YotC, in the California Uber Alles, it says that Ares has deployed 5
battalions of military troops to block the whacko Jap General's army from
anexing Silicon Valley. With 500 guys and gals per battalion that's a
deployment of 2500 troops. It mentions that one battalion is an Intelligence
and Recon group, two are armoured battalions and the other 2 are mechanized
infantry battalions.

And just remember that that is only going to be a part of the Ares armed
forces. No matter how important Silicon Valley is they aren't going to strip
all their forces from the rest of the world to deploy them there. So that
means Ares has a lot more forces around the world. Disclaimer: Ares is *the*
major military corp so it is likely that they're going to have the largest
most advanced and well equipped military. That means the above example is
the largest your likely to get, the other corps militaries will be smaller
or at the most on an almost equal footing.

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