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Message no. 1
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*******.com.au
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:52:28 +1000
>>What? He missed out Sean Connery????
>>
>>What heresy is this? All should know that Connery is the one, true
>Bond!
>
>Um, no. No one has missed out on Sean Connery. Look at the list of who
>stars as James Bond:
>James Bond
>George Lazenby
>Roger Moore
>Timothy Dalton
>Pierce Brosnan
>
>Now look closely at the first name on the list. :)
>
>(I suppose the movie Casino Royale has been omitted from consideration
>for the sake of clarity, as _everyone_ who starred in that movie
>played James Bond.)

David Niven was the star, wasn't he...? Hmm, no, Casino Royale is widely
accepted as being a Bond spoof, as it were, rather than a 'real' Bond flick.

*sigh* The tricky part is finding the original Ian Fleming novels, here in
Australia. Really want to read 'em...

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 2
From: Lehlan Decker DeckerL@******.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:09:44 -0500
>*sigh* The tricky part is finding the original Ian Fleming novels,
>here in Australia. Really want to read 'em...

<GRIN> I'm not sure exactly there they are (somewhere in my
parents attic), but I have not quite all of them. Sometimes being in
america is nice. Anyone ever read any of the novels with Matt
Helm in them? I want to say they were written by McDonald, but I
might be wrong. Those are from the same time period, but far
more realistic and down and dirty in my opinion. First book was
Death of a Citizen, Second was Wrecking crew. I think there were
about 20 all together. Sigh.sounds like I need to pay a visit to my
parents attic and start digging.
And to tie this to shadowrun, the Matt Helm novels have some
interesting spy like ideas you could tie to shadowrun, depending
on the campaign style.
Message no. 3
From: Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:34:49 -0500
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At 06:52 AM 2/12/99 +1000, Lady Jestyr wrote:
>>(I suppose the movie Casino Royale has been omitted from
consideration
>>for the sake of clarity, as _everyone_ who starred in that movie
>>played James Bond.)
>
>David Niven was the star, wasn't he...? Hmm, no, Casino Royale is
widely
>accepted as being a Bond spoof, as it were, rather than a 'real' Bond
flick.

A spoof film? Even though Casino Royale is directly adapted from the
very first James Bond novel written by Ian Flemming? I'll grant you
that Casino Royale wasn't put out by Albert R. Broccoli's & Harry
Saltzman's production company, but then again, neither was Never say
Never Again.

Films like Austin Powers are Bond spoofs, but Casino Royale, while
downright silly, _DOES_ focus around the exploits of a spy named James
Bond, License #007, serving on Her Majesty's Secret Service, and _IS_
based off of one of Ian Flemming's James Bond novels.

If sillyness is a disqualifying factor for what's a "real" Bond flick,
we'd have to cross most of the Roger Moore Bond films off the list
too, as they too are somewhat guilty of being spoofs of the more
serious Bond films. :)

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Message no. 4
From: hivemind hivemind@********.rr.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:50:54 -0600
From: Paul Gettle <RunnerPaul@*****.com>
>Films like Austin Powers are Bond spoofs, but Casino Royale, while
>downright silly, _DOES_ focus around the exploits of a spy named James
>Bond, License #007, serving on Her Majesty's Secret Service, and _IS_
>based off of one of Ian Flemming's James Bond novels.

Have you actually seen this film? I have, as well as reading the book, and
the title is just about the only thing they have in common. The movie is
QUITE obviously a parody in the vein of Get Smart or Austin Powers.
Incidentally, have any of y'all seen The Secret Life of Ian Fleming, a made
for cable movie [TNT IIRC]. The second half of this movie, which claims to
be based on Flemings real-life military career, is pretty much Casino Royale
[the book] with Nazis as villains instead of Commies. And it stars Sean
Connery's son, Jason.

hivemind
Message no. 5
From: David Hinkley dhinkley@***.org
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:11:24 -0800
> >>What? He missed out Sean Connery????
> >>
> >>What heresy is this? All should know that Connery is the one, true
> >Bond!
> >
> >Um, no. No one has missed out on Sean Connery. Look at the list of who
> >stars as James Bond:
> >James Bond
> >George Lazenby
> >Roger Moore
> >Timothy Dalton
> >Pierce Brosnan
> >
> >Now look closely at the first name on the list. :)
> >
> >(I suppose the movie Casino Royale has been omitted from consideration
> >for the sake of clarity, as _everyone_ who starred in that movie
> >played James Bond.)
>
> David Niven was the star, wasn't he...? Hmm, no, Casino Royale is widely
> accepted as being a Bond spoof, as it were, rather than a 'real' Bond flick.
>
> *sigh* The tricky part is finding the original Ian Fleming novels, here in
> Australia. Really want to read 'em...
>

Also missing from the list is the first James Bond...Barry Nelson. He
appreared in a black and white version of "Casino Royale" done live on
American television in the late 1950's. I think the show was was Playhouse 90.




David Hinkley
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Message no. 6
From: Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:56:37 -0500
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At 10:50 PM 2/11/99 -0600, hivemind wrote:
>>Films like Austin Powers are Bond spoofs, but Casino Royale, while
>>downright silly, _DOES_ focus around the exploits of a spy named
James
>>Bond, License #007, serving on Her Majesty's Secret Service, and
_IS_
>>based off of one of Ian Flemming's James Bond novels.
>
>Have you actually seen this film? I have, as well as reading the
book, and
>the title is just about the only thing they have in common.

OK, _loosely_ based off of one of Ian Fleming's books. :)

I've seen the film, but haven't read the book. I was under the
impression though that at least some of the casino scenes from the
movie were similar to scenes in the book, if nothing else.

However, Casino Royale isn't the only instance where a Bond movie
takes its title from an Ian Flemming novel even though the two works
bear little resemblence to each other, correct?

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Message no. 7
From: A Halliwell u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:12:07 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, did David Hinkley hastily scribble thusly...
|> *sigh* The tricky part is finding the original Ian Fleming novels, here in
|> Australia. Really want to read 'em...
|>
|
|Also missing from the list is the first James Bond...Barry Nelson. He
|appreared in a black and white version of "Casino Royale" done live on
|American television in the late 1950's. I think the show was was Playhouse 90.

He wasn't the first (I'm suddenly having a feeling of Dejavu).
The first one was Bob "I'll have a 'P' please Bob" Holness in a 1950s radio
adaptation....
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Message no. 8
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:04:49 EST
In a message dated 99-02-12 01:02:59 EST, RunnerPaul@*****.com writes:

> However, Casino Royale isn't the only instance where a Bond movie
> takes its title from an Ian Flemming novel even though the two works
> bear little resemblence to each other, correct?
>

correct. I dont recall many of the other Flemming books, but I did read
Moonraker, and the movie with RM only had a superficial resemblance to the
book.
Message no. 9
From: Anders Swenson anders@**********.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:17:45 -0800
-----Original Message-----
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.com.au>
To: shadowrn@*********.org <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: SR Movies List [OT]


>
>
>>>What? He missed out Sean Connery????
>>>
>>>What heresy is this? All should know that Connery is the one, true
>>Bond!
>>
>>Um, no. No one has missed out on Sean Connery. Look at the list of who
>>stars as James Bond:
>>James Bond
>>George Lazenby
>>Roger Moore
>>Timothy Dalton
>>Pierce Brosnan
>>
>>Now look closely at the first name on the list. :)
>>
>>(I suppose the movie Casino Royale has been omitted from consideration
>>for the sake of clarity, as _everyone_ who starred in that movie
>>played James Bond.)
>
>David Niven was the star, wasn't he...? Hmm, no, Casino Royale is widely
>accepted as being a Bond spoof, as it were, rather than a 'real' Bond
flick.
>
>*sigh* The tricky part is finding the original Ian Fleming novels, here in
>Australia. Really want to read 'em...
>
>Lady Jestyr
>
>"A true beanie should have a propellor on the top." -- Terry Pratchett
> - jestyr@*******.com.au URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr -
>
>
What's the best way to ship stuff like books to Australia. I might be able
to get something going in the way of CARE packages, if it looks economically
feasible. And, BTW, what do you guys pay for SR products there?
--Anders
Message no. 10
From: Ken Hart satyr9@********.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:56:20 -0000
Paul Gettle wrote:

> However, Casino Royale isn't the only instance
> where a Bond movie takes its title from an Ian
> Flemming novel even though the two works
> bear little resemblence to each other, correct?

Oh, yeah. A lot of the Roger Moore films had nothing in common with the stories other than
the names of the villains, especially "Moonraker" and "Man with the Golden
Gun."

I never understood why they didn't use the original Golden Gun plot (no real spoilers,
since this happens in the first few pages): A KGB-brainwashed Bond tries to kill
"M," is deprogrammed by MI6, and is then ordered to kill Scaramanga, one of the
world's top assassins. Bond's bosses figure that if he can terminate the deadly
Scaramanga, then 007 is back to normal and everything's fine. But if the shaky Bond fails
and gets killed, oh well -- that's just too damn bad.

Instead, the movie is one of the worst Bond films, with this goofy plot about solar energy
-- and Herve ("Tattoo") Villechaize! Even Christopher Lee as Scaramanga can't
save it.

--Ken Hart
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Message no. 11
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*******.com.au
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:04:00 +1000
>What's the best way to ship stuff like books to Australia. I might be able
>to get something going in the way of CARE packages, if it looks economically
>feasible. And, BTW, what do you guys pay for SR products there?

Surface mail/sea mail; it's too damned expensive to send stuff airmail.

We pay $25-$30 AU for most SR products; about US $16-$20.

Lady Jestyr

"A true beanie should have a propellor on the top." -- Terry Pratchett
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Message no. 12
From: Airwasp@***.com Airwasp@***.com
Subject: SR Movies List [OT]
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:49:19 EST
In a message dated 2/12/1999 7:10:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jestyr@*******.com.au writes:

> >What's the best way to ship stuff like books to Australia. I might be able
> >to get something going in the way of CARE packages, if it looks
> economically
> >feasible. And, BTW, what do you guys pay for SR products there?
>
> Surface mail/sea mail; it's too damned expensive to send stuff airmail.
>
> We pay $25-$30 AU for most SR products; about US $16-$20.

You can send up to 2# of stuff from the US to Australia for $6.95, although
the price may have gone up a little bit since the small price increase in
postage that happened in early January. The package would be considered
Global Priority, and should take 3 to 5 days to reach it's destination in
Australia. Oh, and anything sent from the US that has postage of more than $3
is considered priority, though unless it is Global Priority it will be
considered first class mail once it reaches the hub airport where airmail for
Australia is sent to.

If you send something via bulk mail however it could take months to reach
Australia. So spend a little more money and send it either first class of
global priority.

-Herc

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