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Message no. 1
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR movies (was Re: SR4: matrix -- first impression)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:28:36 +0100
According to Scott Harrison, on 31-10-05 18:47 the word on the street was...

> Both Sneakers and Ronin are great SR movies.

I'd also add Collateral, with Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx. A very SR-ish
plot about a guy doing things in SR-ish ways, I thought.

> Stephenson's (...) other works are cool to say the least - but not
> necessarily computer related (e.g., Zodiac, Baroque Cycle).

Waterhouse works on a data retrieval system in his log cabin, that
sounds computer-related to me :)

> We have learned that for anything related to crypto we just forget
> reality and play in the game rules. This tends to be the same for
> computer, rigger, weapons and magic as well. When the players know what
> cosecant squared antennas are for, how to build modern computer
> networks, build modern communication networks, etc. trying to justify
> the rules in the SR world seem quite silly.

Same here. To a large degree, the game rules define the reality of the
game world, and if there is not a good reason to deviate far from them,
I don't see the point. Of course, if you have an easy alternative for a
rule that you feel doesn't work, go ahead and use it -- but I don't see
the need to change rules that aren't overly realistic, only to replace
them with much more convoluted ones in the name of realism.

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Message no. 2
From: sfeley@*****.com (Stephen Eley)
Subject: SR movies (was Re: SR4: matrix -- first impression)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:07:55 -0500
On 10/31/05, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> According to Scott Harrison, on 31-10-05 18:47 the word on the street was...
>
> > Both Sneakers and Ronin are great SR movies.
>
> I'd also add Collateral, with Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx. A very SR-ish
> plot about a guy doing things in SR-ish ways, I thought.

Ahh, *this* thread again!

_The Usual Suspects._ My favorite. Hands-down the absolute best
example anywhere of getting screwed by Mr. Johnson. >8->



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Steve Eley (sfeley@*****.com)
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Message no. 3
From: graht1@*****.com (Graht)
Subject: SR movies (was Re: SR4: matrix -- first impression)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:11:59 -0700
On 10/31/05, Stephen Eley <sfeley@*****.com> wrote:
> On 10/31/05, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> > According to Scott Harrison, on 31-10-05 18:47 the word on the street was...
> >
> > > Both Sneakers and Ronin are great SR movies.
> >
> > I'd also add Collateral, with Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx. A very SR-ish
> > plot about a guy doing things in SR-ish ways, I thought.
>
> Ahh, *this* thread again!
>
> _The Usual Suspects._ My favorite. Hands-down the absolute best
> example anywhere of getting screwed by Mr. Johnson. >8->

And then there's The Transporter :)

And, on a more whimsical side, Jackie Chan movies make for good
Shadowruns too :)

--
-Graht
Message no. 4
From: marc.renouf@******.com (Renouf, Marc A.)
Subject: SR movies (was Re: SR4: matrix -- first impression)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:25:40 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com] On Behalf Of Graht
>
> And then there's The Transporter :)
>
> And, on a more whimsical side, Jackie Chan movies make for
> good Shadowruns too :)

And let us not forget "Boondock Saints."

Marc
Message no. 5
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: SR movies (was Re: SR4: matrix -- first impression)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:30:08 -0800 (PST)
--- Stephen Eley <sfeley@*****.com> wrote:

> On 10/31/05, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> > According to Scott Harrison, on 31-10-05 18:47 the
> word on the street was...
> >
> > > Both Sneakers and Ronin are great SR movies.
> >
> > I'd also add Collateral, with Tom Cruise and Jamie
> Foxx. A very SR-ish
> > plot about a guy doing things in SR-ish ways, I
> thought.
>
> Ahh, *this* thread again!
>
> _The Usual Suspects._ My favorite. Hands-down the
> absolute best
> example anywhere of getting screwed by Mr. Johnson.
> >8->

I recently read about this movie called Nemesis (alarm
lights should start flashing when you hear a movie
title like that) by Albert Puyn. It's a cheesy
B-flick, but some parts of the trailer, which I found
at

http://www.videodetective.com/trailer-preview.asp?PublishedIDa7698
looked like they could be used as Shadowrun setting
material. Problem is the DVD is rare and goes for
something like $50 on Amazon. Strange that a
made-for-video dud like this should be amongst those
DVD's that warrant a price higher than retail.

I'm currently getting into post-apocalyptic movies and
imagine there's a lot of interesting thoughts to be
found in those. In fact I can't wait to find the time
to ponder the finer aspects of barrens survival while
watching Le Dernier Combat by Besson sometime.

cheers,

Jan Jaap



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Message no. 6
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: SR movies (was Re: SR4: matrix -- first impression)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:42:12 +0100
According to Stephen Eley, on 31-10-05 20:07 the word on the street was...

> _The Usual Suspects._ My favorite. Hands-down the absolute best
> example anywhere of getting screwed by Mr. Johnson. >8->

I'll also add something I saw on BBC 2 yesterday: Broken News. Not a
movie, but a TV show parody on news channels -- it struck me that this
is probably a good example of how the media works in SR ...

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Please do not read the lyrics whilst listening to the recordings.
-> Former NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998

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