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Message no. 1
From: Grim Shear grim_shear@*******.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:32:42 CDT
>How many people have read Psychotrope? Any good decker should read it...

Do any of the SR novels have any good Rigger type stuff in them? I'd like
to get a bit more of an idea as to the character, more then the "Feel of the
wind over your hull" type things.
Thanks in advance.



Grim Shear
"Dammit man, I thought I told you to throw the _Grenade_
not the pin." Spoken soon after telling a _really_ stupid
(and well roleplayed Troll), to pull the pin and throw it.

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Message no. 2
From: lomion lomion@*********.escnd1.sdca.home.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:55:36 -0700
At 02:32 PM 10/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>How many people have read Psychotrope? Any good decker should read it...
>
> Do any of the SR novels have any good Rigger type stuff in them?
> I'd like to get a bit more of an idea as to the character, more then the
> "Feel of the wind over your hull" type things.
> Thanks in advance.
>

I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes a rigger
is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to playa rigger it's
required reading.

--Lomion
Message no. 3
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:44:54 +0200
According to Grim Shear, at 14:32 on 16 Oct 99, the word on
the street was...

> Do any of the SR novels have any good Rigger type stuff in them? I'd like
> to get a bit more of an idea as to the character, more then the "Feel of the
> wind over your hull" type things.

It's not SR, but Snow Crash has someone who in SR I'd consider to be a
primitive kind of rigger.

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Message no. 4
From: Raije murk@****.org.au
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:31:22 +1000
> >How many people have read Psychotrope? Any good decker should read it...
>
> Do any of the SR novels have any good Rigger type stuff in them? I'd like
> to get a bit more of an idea as to the character, more then the "Feel of
the
> wind over your hull" type things.
> Thanks in advance.
>

I guess you could try "Dead Air" by Jak Koke, but that's all I know off.
Try reading rigger 2 coz that has some real short stories, but they are
perty kewl.

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Message no. 5
From: Mike and Jill Johnson shadowrn@******.net
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 07:22:51 -0600
At 02:32 PM 10/16/99 CDT, you wrote:
>>How many people have read Psychotrope? Any good decker should read it...
>
> Do any of the SR novels have any good Rigger type stuff in them? I'd like
>to get a bit more of an idea as to the character, more then the "Feel of the
>wind over your hull" type things.
> Thanks in advance.
>
The main charactor in Just Compensation is a rigger.

Mike Johnson
Message no. 6
From: Grim Shear grim_shear@*******.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:19:31 CDT
>I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes a rigger
>is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a rigger it's
>required reading.
>--Lomion

Who wrote that?

Grim Shear
"Dammit man, I thought I told you to throw the _Grenade_
not the pin." Spoken soon after telling a _really_ stupid
(and well roleplayed Troll), to pull the pin and throw it.

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Message no. 7
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:20:10 -0500
:>I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes a rigger
:>is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a rigger it's
:>required reading.
:>--Lomion
:
: Who wrote that?


Walter John Williams, I think. I can't find my copy.

Mongoose
Message no. 8
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:58:13 -0500
> >I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes
> >a rigger is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a
> >rigger it's required reading.
>
> Who wrote that?

HARDWIRED was written by Walter Jon Williams. I highly recommend it.

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Message no. 9
From: lomion lomion@*********.escnd1.sdca.home.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:24:20 -0700
At 02:19 PM 10/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes a
>>rigger is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a rigger
>>it's required reading.
>>--Lomion

bruce sterling i think (it's been years since i read it)

> Who wrote that?
>
> Grim Shear
> "Dammit man, I thought I told you to throw the _Grenade_
>not the pin." Spoken soon after telling a _really_ stupid
>(and well roleplayed Troll), to pull the pin and throw it.
>
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>
Message no. 10
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:25:31 -0500
> >>I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes a
> >>rigger is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a rigger
> >>it's required reading.
> >
> > Who wrote that?
>
> bruce sterling i think (it's been years since i read it)

Bruce Sterling isn't qualified to tie Walter Jon Williams' shoes.

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Message no. 11
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:28:57 -0400
> >How many people have read Psychotrope? Any good decker should read it...
>
> Do any of the SR novels have any good Rigger type stuff in them? I'd like
> to get a bit more of an idea as to the character, more then the "Feel of
the
> wind over your hull" type things.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Grim Shear

None, really. The only rigger-based fiction is really found in RBB2, and
it's not _that_ great.

You might like to know I'm working on a relatively detailed, somewhat
opinionated [!] piece of fiction centering on a rigger, for the SR Car Show
page. It won't be done for a while, and won't be up until the page is, but
it should be good. It looks pretty good so far. We'll see.
Message no. 12
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:22:26 -0500
:> >>I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that describes a
:> >>rigger is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a rigger
:> >>it's required reading.
:> >
:> > Who wrote that?
:>
:> bruce sterling i think (it's been years since i read it)
:
:Bruce Sterling isn't qualified to tie Walter Jon Williams' shoes.


One could say that's because Bruce would have to stoop even to pat WJW's
head....

Williams's novels tend to be a bit more action intensive and use more
"sexy tech" and "big concepts". Sterling is a bit more subtle, and
can
sometimes seem slow to develop his plots, but his books seem to hit home on
relevant topics and real emotions. Both are good, but they are pretty
different in style.

Mongoose
Message no. 13
From: BRUCE gyro@********.co.za
Subject: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:18:21 +0200
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Wiers <m0ng005e@*********.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.org <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: 19 October 1999 03:10
Subject: Re: SR novels (was: quantum matrix)


>
>
>:> >>I don't know about any sr novels, but a good novel that
describes a
>:> >>rigger is Hardwired. Personally I think if your going to play a
rigger
>:> >>it's required reading.
>:> >
>:> > Who wrote that?
>:>
>:> bruce sterling i think (it's been years since i read it)
>:
>:Bruce Sterling isn't qualified to tie Walter Jon Williams' shoes.
>
>
> One could say that's because Bruce would have to stoop even to
pat WJW's
>head....
>
> Williams's novels tend to be a bit more action intensive and use
more
>"sexy tech" and "big concepts". Sterling is a bit more subtle,
and
can
>sometimes seem slow to develop his plots, but his books seem to hit
home on
>relevant topics and real emotions. Both are good, but they are
pretty
>different in style.
>
>Mongoose

It's nice to see a well thought out post regarding "cyberpunk"
authours and their perceived worth. Makes a pleasant change from some
of the knee-jerk reactions we see around here sometimes.

Thanks Mongoose

Bruce <gyro@********.co.za>
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