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Message no. 1
From: James Mick sinabian@********.net
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:25:32 -0400
>and Trolls? Do the Olympics still exist in SR? If so, how do they deal with
>metahumans?
>
>


Woah...gods I love this list! I get some of my best ideas here! I may have
to do something with that some day! Has anybody ever done that before? Any
ideas?
Message no. 2
From: Peter Mikulsky PeterMikulsky@********.de
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:00:23 +0200
The word on the street was

<snip>

> Woah...gods I love this list! I get some of my best ideas here! I may have
> to do something with that some day! Has anybody ever done that before? Any
> ideas?

The Games still exists. The was mentioned in Shadowbeat, sport section IIRC.
They are now more second interest by the audiance, after cyber sport cames
starts in the media.
Message no. 3
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:23:37 GMT
>From: PeterMikulsky@********.de (Peter Mikulsky)
>The Games still exists. The was mentioned in Shadowbeat, sport section
>IIRC.
>They are now more second interest by the audiance, after cyber sport cames
>starts in the media.

There is also a tiny bit in MITS under The Athlete's Way; it basicly says
that Adepts - and, I presume, magic in genral - was banned in 2032. I'm
guessing its loss of popularity arose from physads turning up and wiping the
floor with the other competitors, making the games a bit pointless for any
mundane caring to compete.

That does not mean that there is not a magical Olympics - like the disabled
Olympics - designed so that adepts can compete against each other along with
magicians. There would probably also be a cyber olympics which would
basicly be an excuse for corps to show off all their nice new toys. "New
from Ares; the Pacemaker Coprocessor as used by <athlete's name> in this
years CyberOlympics."

Metahumans would compete in their own catagorys, although certain metatypes
could get away with competing in the same catagory; elves would not have too
much of an advantage wrestling or swimming against humans.

Drugs in 2060 could be engineered towards not being detected specificly for
athletes wanting and attempts would be made to make certain pieces of
bioware appear to be as natural as possible. The games would have huge
levels of magical and electronic detection systems to keep out any cheating.

Phil

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Message no. 4
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:26:31 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Saturday, July 22, 2000 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT]
X-Men)


>>From: PeterMikulsky@********.de (Peter Mikulsky)
>>The Games still exists. The was mentioned in Shadowbeat, sport section
>>IIRC.
>>They are now more second interest by the audiance, after cyber sport cames
>>starts in the media.
>
>There is also a tiny bit in MITS under The Athlete's Way; it basicly says
>that Adepts - and, I presume, magic in genral - was banned in 2032. I'm
>guessing its loss of popularity arose from physads turning up and wiping
the
>floor with the other competitors, making the games a bit pointless for any
>mundane caring to compete.
>

you mean as opposed to today where only the countries that can afford the
really good performance enhancing and masking drugs have any chance? And the
money to turn athletes into battery hens until they reach their peak as
well, of course.
Message no. 5
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:03:03 EDT
In a message dated 7/21/00 9:28:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sfuller@******.com.au writes:

> you mean as opposed to today where only the countries that can afford the
> really good performance enhancing and masking drugs have any chance? And
the
> money to turn athletes into battery hens until they reach their peak as
> well, of course.
>

I note for the record only a FEW countries, usually those formerly of the
Eastern Bloc actually do that. A brother of a friend of mine tried out for
the Olympic trials...almost made it onto the team, came in like 3rd behind a
qualifying spot (out of HOW many?). The drug testing was FIERCE, and no sane
coach would EVER recommend/give/buy drugs for their players, even performance
enhancers and maskers; They were watched even more closely. Everybody,
anyway, was watched not only by the USOC, but by the federal government
(remember, the Olympics oft have a big diplomatic component too) AND monitors
from the IOC. That's only for the US team, admittedly, but...
Message no. 6
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:26:29 GMT
>From: "Simon and Fiona" <sfuller@******.com.au>
> >There is also a tiny bit in MITS under The Athlete's Way; it basicly says
> >that Adepts - and, I presume, magic in genral - was banned in 2032. I'm
> >guessing its loss of popularity arose from physads turning up and wiping
>the
> >floor with the other competitors, making the games a bit pointless for
>any
> >mundane caring to compete.
> >
>
>you mean as opposed to today where only the countries that can afford the
>really good performance enhancing and masking drugs have any chance? And
>the
>money to turn athletes into battery hens until they reach their peak as
>well, of course.

Yeah, but there's a fine line between artificially pushing the human body
beond its natural limits to do better al long jump and being able to fly!
:)>

Phil

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Message no. 7
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 12:29:28 +0200
According to DemonPenta@***.com, at 22:03 on 21 Jul 00, the word on the
street was...

> no sane coach would EVER recommend/give/buy drugs for their players,
> even performance enhancers and maskers

Ever heard of Epo?

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Message no. 8
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:06:00 EDT
In a message dated 7/22/00 6:28:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gurth@******.nl
writes:

> According to DemonPenta@***.com, at 22:03 on 21 Jul 00, the word on the
> street was...
>
> > no sane coach would EVER recommend/give/buy drugs for their players,
> > even performance enhancers and maskers
>
> Ever heard of Epo?

No.
Message no. 9
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:30:50 +0200
According to DemonPenta@***.com, at 9:06 on 22 Jul 00, the word on the
street was...

> > > no sane coach would EVER recommend/give/buy drugs for their players,
> > > even performance enhancers and maskers
> >
> > Ever heard of Epo?
>
> No.

Figures... bicycle racing isn't very popular in the US, I gather. Anyway,
Epo is a widely-used drug in that sport, and is virtually undetectable;
currently, the only way to find it in someone's body is by looking for
indirect signs (some blood count thing, IIRC), the problem being that
those signs might also be caused by natural processes.

What this has to do with your comment (see above) is that in 1998 the Tour
de France (the biggest cycling event in the world; this year's Tour ends
tomorrow, BTW) became basically one big doping scandal because of the find
of a fairly large amount of Epo in a car belonging to one of the teams.
The exact fall-out of the find isn't too important here, but what is, is
that it brought to light how wide-spread its use is even though France has
_very_ strict laws on the matter. Off the record, plenty -- if not most --
top bicycle racers will probably admit to having taken performance-
enhancing drugs "in the past," and in a great number of those cases, they
were administered by the team's physician...

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Message no. 10
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:35:28 EDT
In a message dated 7/22/00 1:28:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gurth@******.nl
writes:

> What this has to do with your comment (see above) is that in 1998 the Tour
> de France (the biggest cycling event in the world; this year's Tour ends
> tomorrow, BTW) became basically one big doping scandal because of the find
> of a fairly large amount of Epo in a car belonging to one of the teams.
> The exact fall-out of the find isn't too important here, but what is, is
> that it brought to light how wide-spread its use is even though France has
> _very_ strict laws on the matter. Off the record, plenty -- if not most --
> top bicycle racers will probably admit to having taken performance-
> enhancing drugs "in the past," and in a great number of those cases, they
> were administered by the team's physician...

<grin> When I said the federal government, that included the FBI.
According to the Olympic hopeful I talked to, since they were secluded in
guarded dorms for 2 weeks before, during, and 2 weeks after...State Police
and FBI did room checks (searching the WHOLE room) Thrice daily. And, over
here, we've had the thing with Andro (legal, but not well-liked) and Mark
McGwire....Which is why Sammy Sosa's become more popular..Unlike McGwire,
Sosa has yet to burn out.

Yet.
Message no. 11
From: Fyre - AKA Colin fyre@******.demon.co.uk
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 23:17:38 +0100
In article <LAW-F2230scL9NtDEJm000031fd@*******.com>, Phil Smith
<phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes
>>From: "Simon and Fiona" <sfuller@******.com.au>
>> >There is also a tiny bit in MITS under The Athlete's Way; it basicly says
>> >that Adepts - and, I presume, magic in genral - was banned in 2032. I'm
>> >guessing its loss of popularity arose from physads turning up and wiping
>>the
>> >floor with the other competitors, making the games a bit pointless for
>>any
>> >mundane caring to compete.
>> >
>>
>>you mean as opposed to today where only the countries that can afford the
>>really good performance enhancing and masking drugs have any chance? And
>>the
>>money to turn athletes into battery hens until they reach their peak as
>>well, of course.
>
>Yeah, but there's a fine line between artificially pushing the human body
>beond its natural limits to do better al long jump and being able to fly!
>:)>
>
Heh... I like this idea. I also like the idea of athletes being
cyberware test platforms for the major corps... I just get this picture
of a Formula-1style race where the athletes come in once in a while for
new shoes and a bit of a recharge... Also: Where would they put the
spoilers? :)

Well: One thing I'm gonna have to do now is to make is an ex-athlete
character... Just taking a little browse through M&M: There's a fair
amount of cyber there which could have been first modelled on a sporting
platform.
DarkFyre
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Message no. 12
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: SR Olympics...was Re: Wolverine as an SR char ( was Re: [OT] X-Men)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
> >and Trolls? Do the Olympics still exist in SR? If
so, how do they deal with metahumans?
>
> Woah...gods I love this list! I get some of my best
ideas here! I may have to do something with that some
day! Has anybody ever done that before? Any ideas?

Well, that's us, Jimmy-boy. We live to perve...

.......

Ummm, I know there's something wrong there, but for
the life of me, I can't figure out what...

*Doc' scratches his heads in bemusement...*

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

.sig Sauer

Can you SMELL what THE DOC' is COOKIN'!!!

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