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Message no. 1
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:34:13 -0400
Ok, through play the other night we came across a few other questions that
I figured I'd post, as well as how we solved it and why we did it that way...


1. If a character takes Armor Piercing Damage, and is wearing an Armored
Vest (Or one of the other arnors that gets trashed sometimes), does he
still have to roll? This question came up when the character was damaed by
AP Dam in a situation when the armor wouldn;t have gotten damaged (don;t
remember what it was off ahnd though). Of course, I think it's also cause
Tinner was thinking too hard of ways to cheat. :]

We said that Yes, you still have to roll. Mostly because you have to keep
the rules simple and even for every situation, and some AP damage WOULD
damage the armor.

2. When a Runner team faces a Challenge in a 3+ player game, does that
challenge get revealed to all players? Or do the other players just get to
watch as the Runners scream and drop like flies? <evil grin>

We said that only the owner of teh Challenge and the running player sees
the Challenge, as this makes things fun (mostly due to the dying and
screaming:)).

3. What is teh official cost for Z-Zone? And did this card get fixed in
the main set? I have the Demo version which has no number where the cost
should be.
Mr. White playtested the game at origins and said that he was told that the
card costed 6 nuyen, so that's what we're using it as for the time being,
but...:]

4. In the case of Objectives and Challenges that require you to roll to
see what happens, who rolls?

This one doesn;t matter, but there are too many rules-lawyers magic players
out there who will argue this one for years...:]

We've played with several people now, and all but one of the guys has
played Magic for a long time (and we're all familiar with SR), and when you
play Magic with a large group of people or play with a lot of different
people, you get used to having to learn exactly how every single fragging
rule works, and even then you don;t always know the rules cause WOTC has a
bad habit of flip flopping on the rules nuances.

Hell, Tinner and I called WOTC's Magic Hotline one time when we were
playing Magic heavily, and we both called on the same day, and got opposite
answers to teh same question, so that should tell you something...:/

Anyways, I'm just posting some questions as they come up to help clarify
things for others...:]

Bull
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Message no. 2
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:07:42 -0700
---Bull wrote:
>
> Ok, through play the other night we came across a few other
questions that
> I figured I'd post, as well as how we solved it and why we did it
that way...

Again I'll post answers via the SRTCG list to help start directing
volume that way.

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Message no. 3
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:12:36 PDT
>Again I'll post answers via the SRTCG list to help start directing
>volume that way.

Where is it?
Message no. 4
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:12:34 -0400
At 10:12 AM 8/27/97 PDT, Benjamin wrote these timeless words:
>>Again I'll post answers via the SRTCG list to help start directing
>>volume that way.
>
>Where is it?
>
It's a new ITRIBE list...

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Message no. 5
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:48:50 +0100
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I think I'll pass on that one.
I'm not going to be a collectable card junkie....
Ever...
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 6
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:58:20 -0400
Spike once dared to write,

>I think I'll pass on that one.
>I'm not going to be a collectable card junkie....
>Ever...

Come on man. Everybody's doing it. Don't you want to be cool. Everybody's
doing it.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"If I was born in the 17th century, I wouldn't have to wax the van."
-Azreal Abyss, Goth Talk (SNL)

I am MC23
Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:13:43 +0100
|Spike once dared to write,
|
|>I think I'll pass on that one.
|>I'm not going to be a collectable card junkie....
|>Ever...
|
|Come on man. Everybody's doing it. Don't you want to be cool. Everybody's
|doing it.

I've never been a follower of fashion...
(My previous hairstyle and dress sense proved that)

Besides, I'm a poor, impoverished student with a large overdraft and a few
grand in student loans.....
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 8
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:16:41 +0000
On 28 Aug 97 at 13:48, Spike wrote:

> I think I'll pass on that one.
> I'm not going to be a collectable card junkie....
> Ever...

Everyone, let's all send Spike a couple of extra cards and get him
hooked. :)

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Message no. 9
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:19:51 +0100
|On 28 Aug 97 at 13:48, Spike wrote:
|
|> I think I'll pass on that one.
|> I'm not going to be a collectable card junkie....
|> Ever...
|
|Everyone, let's all send Spike a couple of extra cards and get him
|hooked. :)

You'll have to catch me first....
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 10
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:25:41 -0400
Spike once dared to write,

>I've never been a follower of fashion...
>(My previous hairstyle and dress sense proved that)

Popular fashion, which could still be debatable since it is now a
long standing subculture for what... two decades now? or close to it.
(P.S. John Lydon is playing in town in a few weeks, yea!). Oh ye
nonconformist conformist. B>]#

>Besides, I'm a poor, impoverished student with a large overdraft and a few
>grand in student loans.....

<SNL>
I am but a simple caveman, your magic boxes that send messages confuse
me. But what I do know is that I will not trade a rare card for nothing
less than another rare card.
</SNL>

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"If I was born in the 17th century, I wouldn't have to wax the van."
-Azreal Abyss, Goth Talk (SNL)

I am MC23
Message no. 11
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:30:15 -0400
Spike once dared to write,

>You'll have to catch me first....

Hey Spikey, not that I would send you enough cards to make a common deck
to play with or anything but what's mailing address since your about to
start your military career and stuff.

- MC23 the Pusher -
"The first one's always free."
Message no. 12
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:46:42 +0100
|Spike once dared to write,

Oh, I always dare....

|>You'll have to catch me first....
|
|Hey Spikey, not that I would send you enough cards to make a common deck
|to play with or anything but what's mailing address since your about to
|start your military career and stuff.

<stubborn>
Not tellin!
</stubborn>

And only a couple of people on the list know it....

As for my Military Career...
That started last week. (And it's my first weekend of Basic Training
starting Saturday...)
[Although, what that has to do with trading cards I have no idea...]

:)
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______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 13
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:20:03 -0400
Spike once dared to write,

>>Hey Spikey, not that I would send you enough cards to make a common deck
>>to play with or anything but what's mailing address since your about to
>>start your military career and stuff.
>
><stubborn>
>Not tellin!
></stubborn>
>
>And only a couple of people on the list know it....
>
>As for my Military Career...
>That started last week. (And it's my first weekend of Basic Training
>starting Saturday...)

I have no idea how the UK military affects one's home life. The people
here that I know join and drop of the face of the Earth only to reappear
months later all brainwashed (OK at least partially brainwashed). It's a
twenty four seven commitment barring the reserves. Active and formerly
military personnel can give a better breakdown of what's like since I
just a lowly civilian.

>[Although, what that has to do with trading cards I have no idea...]
Umm, nothing. Don't Panic. B>]#

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"But we know evil is an exact science,
being carefully, correctly wrong!"
-Shriekback, Nemesis

I am MC23
Message no. 14
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [SRTCG] More FAQ stuff for Loki (and others) to think on
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:26:23 +0100
|I have no idea how the UK military affects one's home life. The people
|here that I know join and drop of the face of the Earth only to reappear
|months later all brainwashed (OK at least partially brainwashed). It's a
|twenty four seven commitment barring the reserves. Active and formerly
|military personnel can give a better breakdown of what's like since I
|just a lowly civilian.

What I'm doing is the TA, which is the equivalent of your reserves, I think.

--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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