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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chipeloi)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Fri Apr 20 09:55:01 2001
Hi ppl

I was talking to my GM (gurth) and we where discussing an
number of things.

But the one that was interesting inuf to put on here was:

If our group go's on an shadowrun we take:

A: all our guns we think we are going to need
B: grenade's and other explosives
C: we put on our armour
D: we go on the run

Now i'm the only one that takes some extra stuf to make sure
i have things for if we run into a surprise

Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run

I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo

But what els?



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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Marc Renouf)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Fri Apr 20 10:45:01 2001
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Chipeloi wrote:

> Hi ppl

Hey, Chip'.

> Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run
>
> I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
> A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo
>
> But what els?

I had a character that used to take extra equipment with him. He
was a decker, so he virtually always carried his microtronics toolkit with
him on most runs. This gave him all the tools he needed to perform any
electronics or computer related tasks (like pulling drives out of
computers or bypassing cardreaders).
In addition, I used to carry what I called the "standard kit."
This contained a Swiss Army knife, waterproof electrical tape, a small
ball of string, a waterproof tube with 20 matches inside, a small
flashlight, a Zippo lighter, and some toilet paper. This was all in a
fairly compact little pack (like a jogger's pack) that I wore on pretty
much every run. That way, the GM always knew that I had this stuff with
me, so if anything strange ever happened or I needed to do something
unusual (like the time I had to rig an impromptu booby-trap using a
grenade, some string, and some tape), I was prepared and the GM knew it.

Marc Renouf (ShadowRN GridSec - "Bad Cop" Division)

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Graht)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Fri Apr 20 11:35:00 2001
>On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Chipeloi wrote:
>
> > Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run
> >
> > I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
> > A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo
> >
> > But what els?

Duct tape. Never, ever, forget the duct tape. :)


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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Arclight)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Fri Apr 20 12:10:01 2001
Von Chipeloi :

<snip>

>Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run
>
>I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
>A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo
>
>But what els?

As I mostly play shadowrun via IRC these days, I tend to copy&paste
together all stuff I need. I group everything to three packages:

1 - clothing, armor, everything in the pockets and on the belt
2 - everything in the combat webbing / combat vest , the longarm plus
accessories.
3 - everything in and on the backpack

The gear itself :

armor (self-explaining)
weapons (longarm, backup handgun and a silenced pistol if necessary)
explosives (grenades, pre-formed charges for doors or other obstacles the
team has to bypass)
electronics (radio, ultrasound-goggles if needed, listening devices, bugs,
jammers, etc)
other tools (crowbar, boltcutter, simple stuff like accu-powered
screwdriver, multitool, tape, etc)

Arclight, who btw is going to attend a Niederlaendisch-course at University
- so beware chipeloi ;)
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Fri Apr 20 13:25:01 2001
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:37:26 -0600 Graht <davidb@***.100.100.99> writes:
> >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Chipeloi wrote:
> >
> > > Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run
> > >
> > > I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
> > > A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo
> > >
> > > But what els?

> Duct tape. Never, ever, forget the duct tape. :)

How else are you going to put the henchman back together?

As for for running gear, here's a few items (these are from several
characters):
Splash grenades with Freeze Foam, Splat Glue, and/or Slip Spray
Solvents for Freeze Foam and Splat Glue.
A dose or two of Witch's Moss.
Medpacs.
At least one, sometimes two or three back-up guns/weapons
At least one knife
At least one melee weapon (can be the above knife, shock gloves common)
Thermo/low-light goggles if no natural or cyber vision enhancements.
Usually several armor options (commonly Form-Fitting or Second Skin with
something over, like lined-coat or armored jacket)
Earplug cellphone
basic toolkit
flashlight (commonly pocket AND large)
Nav-dat GPS
Map chips
HUD Data-display unit
Lingua-soft chips
Extra skill-softs if anyone has skillwires.
surveilance/counter surveilance gear as appropriate.
plain gloves if not wearing shock gloves or hardliner gloves. (not
uncommon to have spare thin gloves for fine work)

Shadowrunner teams in general may need more gear, but I like to play
loose games to encourage players to develop their character's styles. In
my games, the runners don't have to worry about wearing masks or hiding
tattoos/scars, etc as much as in most. If I want something to bite the
runners in the butt, it'll happen regardless of whether they are wearing
skimasks or not. (But if you run around with your SIN(s) tattooed on your
forehead, you're just asking for it.)

Hmm... on a different note, I think I just got an idea for a NPC ...
Father Joseph, the Fixer "You must pay for your SINs, my son." :)

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Pepe Barbe)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Fri Apr 20 21:25:01 2001
At 08:37 a.m. 20/04/2001, Chipeloi wrote:
>Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run

My teddy bear ... stuffed with C12 :)

Pepe
Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chipeloi)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sat Apr 21 06:35:01 2001
In the asylum, Arclight whispered in the corridors:

>
> Von Chipeloi :
Heee i made it in to nobilaty these day's? =)

>SNIP<
>
> Arclight, who btw is going to attend a Niederlaendisch-course at
> University - so beware chipeloi ;)

AAAAAARRRGGG Run for the HILL a geraman who is going to try
to "speak" dutch AAAAAA !



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Message no. 8
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Arclight)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sat Apr 21 07:00:01 2001
Von Chipeloi :

>In the asylum, Arclight whispered in the corridors:
>
> >
> > Von Chipeloi :
>Heee i made it in to nobilaty these day's? =)

*g*

> >SNIP<
> >
> > Arclight, who btw is going to attend a Niederlaendisch-course at
> > University - so beware chipeloi ;)
>
>AAAAAARRRGGG Run for the HILL a geraman who is going to try
>to "speak" dutch AAAAAA !

"At last we will have revenge" ;)

Arclight
Message no. 9
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sat Apr 21 09:50:01 2001
Chipeloi writes:

> Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run

In the team I GM, each member usually has the following:

Micro-Transceiver (with high rating encryption)
At least one phone (set to vibro alert)
Bellaclava (usually beanie bellaclavas)

At least one team member, usually two, carries the following:

Microtronics Tool Kit
Vehicle Tool Kit
Gloves (both coarse and fine)
GPS
Map chips of area
Plastic Explosives
Neuro Stun Grenades
Gaffer Tape (Oh boy my players use a lot of this stuff!)
Medkit
Stim Patches
Gamma Scopalamine (often in an Ares Squirt)
Survival Kit or Survival Knife (which has stuff in the hilt)
Ration Bars (you never know when you might have to camp out
someplace for a long period)

And probably a whole load of stuff that I've forgotten. Usually they manage
to take so much stuff that they are unable to carry it all, and have to
decide what gets left in their vehicles at some point.

An interesting point regarding the ration bars: they were just on a trip
into Africa, and for food they packed:

Lots of highly nutritious but yucky tasking ration bars (light, and
they keep forever)
A simsense chip that makes you think you're eating delicious gourmet
delecacies

This was a lot healthier (and tastier) than their road trip across the
California Free State where they stocked up at a Stuffer Shack by buying
_every_ drink there, about 2000Y worth of food, and the shops microwave.

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Message no. 10
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Strago)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sat Apr 21 10:50:00 2001
Marc Renouf wrote:

> <SNIP>
> > Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run
> >
> > I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
> > A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo
> >
> > But what els?
>

Well, one of the members of our group ALWAYS brought one of those Kodak
Funsaver cameras on the run. I don't remember why. We just made sure we had
it. We also had microtransceivers (tuned to the same freq). Each specialist
would have his equipment. We never wore baclavas, or masks, or anything like
that. I don't know why...

>
> <SNIP>
> Marc Renouf (ShadowRN GridSec - "Bad Cop" Division)

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Message no. 11
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Jeroen Hendrickx)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sat Apr 21 15:10:01 2001
> AAAAAARRRGGG Run for the HILL a geraman who is going
> to try to "speak" dutch AAAAAA !

Es kann nicht schrecklicher sein dan ein Flame den
Deutsch spricht.

Ok, well, how bad is it? Just tell me the truth, I can
handle it.

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Message no. 12
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Tobias Diekershoff)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sun Apr 22 03:40:01 2001
On 21-Apr-01 Jeroen Hendrickx wrote:
> > AAAAAARRRGGG Run for the HILL a geraman who is going
> > to try to "speak" dutch AAAAAA !
>
> Es kann nicht schrecklicher sein dan ein Flame den
> Deutsch spricht.
>
> Ok, well, how bad is it? Just tell me the truth, I can
> handle it.

Not very :)

Just two things; it should be

Es kann nicht schrecklicher sein als ein Flame der Deutsch spricht.

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Message no. 13
From: shadowrn@*********.com (MC23)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sun Apr 22 13:15:01 2001
>In the team I GM, each member usually has the following:
>
> Micro-Transceiver (with high rating encryption)

I thought this one would be on everyone's list. Someone having a
Pocket Secretary was also nice.

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Message no. 14
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sun Apr 22 22:15:01 2001
> >In the team I GM, each member usually has the
following:
> >
> > Micro-Transceiver (with high rating encryption)
>
> I thought this one would be on everyone's list.
Someone having a Pocket Secretary was also nice.
> I am MC23

Something like that all depends on your character and
where they are in their lives. Setting aside the fact
that a good radio with ECCM and encryption can cost in
the tens of thousands (hmmm...DocWagon Platinum or
radio...DocWagon Platinum or radio...?), having a
radio simply isn't always in character. Generally, my
PCs start with a radio of sorts and between 2 and 10
phones of various sorts and 1 to 5 pagers. However,
some of my characters are loners, just getting into
the biz and other such types where it's simply not
feasible that they would have spend over 10 grand on a
radio, and I'm sure other people have similar
characters.

Same thing with the Pocket Secretary - why, pray tell,
would an ex-ganger have spent 3 grand on a Pocket
Secretary when that nice Smartlink II only costs 200
more?

Of course, setting character reasons aside, both of
these items are quite useful for any character to
have. Also, a number of cellular items - and I do
recommend having multiples of each. Think about it -
are you sure you want your parole officer (if you have
one), your mother, your teammates and your fixer to
all be calling the one number? What if you do a lot of
undercover work? My face-type characters generally
give one number when they're pretending to be someone
- then, once that identity needs to disappear, they
can just toss (or destroy) the phone/pager and they
don't have to worry about giving out a new number to
all their friends. Or if they get rumbled and think
their phone might be traced, they can toss it without
having to worry to pick up another one to stay in
touch with people.

====Doc'
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Message no. 15
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Mon Apr 23 01:20:01 2001
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:17:59 -0400 MC23 <mc23@**********.com> writes:
> >In the team I GM, each member usually has the following:
> >
> > Micro-Transceiver (with high rating encryption)

> I thought this one would be on everyone's list. Someone having
> a
> Pocket Secretary was also nice.

It would of been on mine, but like I said, the games I run/play in tend
to be pretty lax about this stuff. But the Pocket Secretary is one I
forgot. It should go with your duct tape, coathangers, and swiss army
knives. :) I've also had a character or two bring along micro drones. (A
while back I even made a post on a drone-based sniping system. Involved
quite a bit of rule bending :)) And of course, if you've got more
skillsofts than chip slots, get a skill soft jukebox. Uhm, has anyone
mentioned wire cutters? :)

You now, the more I think about this, the more I realize I can't answer
Chip's question. The list of possible gear could go on forever. You
really have to sit down before the run and plan what you will need and
take nothing more. Otherwise, you'll need a cybered troll just to carry
the gear.

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Message no. 16
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Mon Apr 23 06:10:03 2001
According to dghost@****.com, on Sun, 22 Apr 2001 the word on the street
was...

> You now, the more I think about this, the more I realize I can't answer
> Chip's question. The list of possible gear could go on forever. You
> really have to sit down before the run and plan what you will need and
> take nothing more. Otherwise, you'll need a cybered troll just to carry
> the gear.

The problem is that you always find more stuff to take along which you
_really_ can't do without :)

As the very bare necessities, I'd probably go for:

* a pistol (either heavy or machine) with good Concealability and a few
clips of all-purpose ammo
* a micro-transceiver with good encryption
* a wristphone with screen
* form-fitting body armor

But that'd be just for walking around Seattle when not doing business :)
Actually on a run, it's going to depend on what you plan to do next and
what you expect to run into. For talking to contacts, the above will do
(maybe with a few additions) while to do a head-on attack on an
Aztechnology compound you're going to need quite a bit more stuff :)

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Message no. 17
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Sebastian Wiers)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Mon Apr 23 17:50:07 2001
>Same thing with the Pocket Secretary - why, pray tell,
>would an ex-ganger have spent 3 grand on a Pocket
>Secretary when that nice Smartlink II only costs 200
>more?

Seems like stealing one (pocket secretary, not smartlink 2 implant) would be
ridiculously easy...

>Of course, setting character reasons aside, both of
>these items are quite useful for any character to
>have. Also, a number of cellular items - and I do
>recommend having multiples of each. Think about it -
>are you sure you want your parole officer (if you have
>one), your mother, your teammates and your fixer to
>all be calling the one number?

No, but why does that require multiple phones? Much slicker just to route
multiple numbers to whatever phone you happen to be carrying.

-Mongoose
Message no. 18
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Mon Apr 23 20:15:00 2001
> >Same thing with the Pocket Secretary - why, pray
tell, would an ex-ganger have spent 3 grand on a
Pocket Secretary when that nice Smartlink II only
costs 200 more?
>
> Seems like stealing one (pocket secretary, not
smartlink 2 implant) would be ridiculously easy...

Sure, but that's an in-game issue - and if you're
smart, once you start running you'll hardly be
boosting Pocket Secretaries and other such pitiful
crap, just in case you get caught and they link your
rather more heinous crimes to you.

Of course, you could say that you didn't actually buy
it, you boosted it and still spend the starting
resources on it. But I don't like doing that kind of
thing unless I find it's really necessary. If it
doesn't fit the character, it doesn't fit the
character.

> >Of course, setting character reasons aside, both of
these items are quite useful for any character to
have. Also, a number of cellular items - and I do
recommend having multiples of each. Think about it -
are you sure you want your parole officer (if you have
one), your mother, your teammates and your fixer to
all be calling the one number?
>
> No, but why does that require multiple phones? Much
slicker just to route multiple numbers to whatever
phone you happen to be carrying.
> -Mongoose

Well, not knowing a heap about mobile technology, I'll
trust you can do that, but what happens when, for some
reason or another, you need to ditch that phone, or
you lose it? Hmmm? And, especially when you're on an
undercover job or the like, you don't REALLY want your
mum, your boy/girlfriend and/or your parole officer to
be able to reach you anyway, now do you?

According to the SR rules, a mobile can be traced if
it's on and not having it on kinda defeats the purpose
(of course, pagers get you around that). But if
someone's trying to trace one of your numbers, or you
suspect they might, that kinda means you need to shut
that phone off. If you have multiple phones, people
can still call you. If you don't, well, you're kinda
incommunicado then, aren't you?

Cellphones and pagers are cheap enough that the
benefits of having multiples of each outweigh the costs.

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Message no. 19
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Snap Dragon)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Mon Apr 23 22:50:01 2001
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chipeloi <chipeloi@***.nl>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: April 20, 2001 7:02 AM
Subject: Standard Running gear



*Snip*

>Now i want to know what do you "normally" take with you on an run

>I mean mages take spells stuf with them ok but what els
>A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more ammo


Oh gee where to start

Armor:
Lined Jacket(custom talored with more pockets, equivilent fine cloathing)
Form fitting body armor (full body) with work boots insted of slippers(get common ones
then foot prints arn't that big a piece of evedence) and a balacava + gloves(w/kevlar)

Weapons:
on a basic Opp where I am expecting trouble I usualy carry
2 colt manhunters(with lots of accesorys) in consealable, quick draw holsters(under arms)
2 clips for each gun, also in consealable holsters
2 silencers hidden under the guns
one dekoted survival knife in holster(small of the back or sleeves)
one dekoted swich blade(in pocket or boot)
(maybe)1-6 grenades(leathal and non leathal)
(maybe)one of the following if I neet to open a ten gallon jug O whoop-ass
Ares Alpha
Franchi spass-22
(both of these are for when I need a raw power with little sublety)
Barrett Model 121
(nice but damn big)
(sometimes)Ceska-vz in forarm, spring loaded holster
(sometimes)Shuriken

depending on what the perameters are

Gear:
One tear proof- water proof bag(for holding everything I don't want in my pocket)
credsticks/IDs
Pocket computer or cell phone(high encription, medium ECCM)
-I spent a good amount of cash on a consealable pocket computer, and it has been worth
it
Fiber optic line(for using spells around corners, seeing around corners, ect)
(sometimes) a kit (microtronics or Demolitions)
Electrical tape, kleen tac, fishing line, mainly for setting grenade traps
(sometimes)monofiliment scissors
flashlight (low light or thermo)
sometimes plasteel-7 and a catalist can be very handy(shapable metal)
flares(lighing flares)
lighter
data chip
hat pin(very usefull)
plastic restraints
Micro transever(high encription)
(sometimes)GPS
Micro Camera(cause you never know when a kodak moment might pop-up)
Trenq Patches(if you don't want to kill someone)
battery and wires(useful)
plyers
scissors
swiss army knife
Flash Pack!(saved my ass from snipers)
(sometimes)handy chemecals like, acid, or zen in a injector pistol
Pepper punch, disguised as pen

the list goes on........

Magical stuff
I usualy only carry a 1-3 focci because they indicate I am a magic user and they can have
harmfull effects
though I have tonnes of different focci
like a levitation focus that looks like a magic carpet
or a physical mask focus that looks like a mask
ect

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</B>April 20, 2001 7:02 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Standard Running

gear<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>*Snip*<BR><BR>&gt;Now i want to know what do you
&quot;normally&quot;
take with you on an run<BR><BR>&gt;I mean mages take spells stuf with them
ok
but what els<BR>&gt;A streetsam takes knife's and lots of guns an more
ammo<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Oh gee where to
start</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Armor:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>Lined Jacket(custom talored
with more pockets, equivilent fine cloathing)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Form fitting body armor (full body) with work boots
insted of
slippers(get common ones then foot prints arn't that big a piece of evedence)
and a balacava + gloves(w/kevlar)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Weapons:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>on a basic Opp where I am
expecting trouble I usualy carry </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2 colt manhunters(with lots of accesorys) in
consealable,
quick draw holsters(under arms)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2 clips for each gun, also in consealable
holsters</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>2 silencers hidden under the
guns</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>one dekoted survival knife
in holster(small of the back or sleeves)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000
size=2>one dekoted swich blade(in
pocket or boot)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>(maybe)1-6 grenades(leathal
and non leathal)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000
size=2>(maybe)one of the following
if I neet to open a ten gallon jug O whoop-ass</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Ares Alpha</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Franchi spass-22</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(both of these are for when I need a raw power with
little
sublety)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Barrett Model 121</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(nice but damn big)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>(sometimes)Ceska-vz in forarm,
spring loaded
holster</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>(sometimes)Shuriken</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>depending on what the perameters
are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gear:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>One tear proof- water proof bag(for
holding
everything I don't want in my pocket)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>credsticks/IDs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Pocket computer or cell phone(high encription, medium
ECCM)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -I spent
a good amount of cash on a consealable pocket computer, and it has been worth
it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>Fiber optic line(for using
spells around corners, seeing around corners, ect)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(sometimes) a kit (microtronics or
Demolitions)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000
size=2>Electrical tape, kleen tac,
fishing line, mainly for setting grenade traps</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>(sometimes)monofiliment
scissors</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>flashlight (low light or
thermo)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000
size=2>sometimes plasteel-7 and a
catalist can be very handy(shapable metal)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT
size=2>flares(lighing
flares)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>lighter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>data chip</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>hat pin(very usefull)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>plastic restraints</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Micro transever(high
encription)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(sometimes)GPS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Micro Camera(cause you never know when a kodak moment
might
pop-up)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Trenq Patches(if you don't want to kill
someone)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>battery and wires(useful)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>plyers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>scissors</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>swiss army knife</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Flash Pack!(saved my ass from
snipers)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(sometimes)handy chemecals like, acid, or zen in a
injector
pistol</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Pepper punch, disguised as pen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the list goes on........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Magical stuff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I usualy only carry a 1-3 focci because they indicate I
am a
magic user and they can have harmfull effects</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>though I have tonnes of different
focci</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>like a levitation focus that looks like a magic
carpet</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>or a physical mask focus that looks like a
mask</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>ect</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>PS check out my we page at</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><A
href="http://www.digitalrice.com/SnapDrgn/">http://www.digitalrice.com/SnapDrgn/</A></FONT></DIV>;
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>-Snap
Dragon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&quot;And there was much rejoycing, and the people
did feast
on the birds, and the fish, and the aragotangs, and breakfeast
cerials.....&quot;</FONT></DIV>
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Message no. 20
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Cymon Tymplar)
Subject: Standard Running gear
Date: Sat May 5 05:10:01 2001
Catching up on mail... here's a commentary I did when I was trying to
create a website with good resources. YMMV

When creating characters for a friend's campaign awhile back it was
decided that we would use the point
system in the Shadowrun Companion. Things were going great, decent
attributes, good list of skills, then
the money... oops, lemme check those points again... ok, I can either
rework all of my points or settle for
only 5,000¥. What the hell, let's see what I can get for 5,000¥.

Ok, I'll admit it, I didn't think it was possible either. After all, I
was creating a Decker!! But when you
think about it, what's the fun in a starting character who has
everything?? I broke it down into the basics
and gave my character the bare necessities to start in the shadows. It
should be noted that for the most
part when making characters we ignore the street index unless it is a
very rare item. With only 5,000¥ to
spend, that's not a even a consideration.

First, there is armor. After all you want your character to live even
if you catch a few rounds right??

Level 3 Form-Fitting Body Armor: 500¥
Secure Clothing: 450¥
Secure Long Coat: 650¥


>>>>>[Pretty much the standard, can't get better without delving into
security or military grade
armor]<<<<<
-Cymon (**:**:**/**-**-**)

Second, you need weapons. Regardless of your Archetype it usually
helps to have another hand who can shoot a gun.

H & K MP5TX: 850¥
Ares Predator: 450¥
Ceska vz/120: 500¥


>>>>>[Ok, the MP5TX may not carry the most firepower but it is the
easiest to conceal and it has an
SA mode meaning you can fire one round at a time and conserve ammo if
needs be. I picked the
original Predator over the Pred II because it is cheaper, lighter, and
easier to conceal, a smartgun link
can always be added once you have a use for it. The Ceska again is the
best in concealment with a
decent amount of ammo, add a silencer and you have a nice piece for
quiet ops that don't have armored
opposition]<<<<<
-Cymon (**:**:**/**-**-**)

Third, wouldn't it be nice to have cyberware? Sure it would, but don't
expect much.

Level 1 DataJack: 500¥


>>>>>[I know this is skimpy but when you think about it, this one
piece is very useful and will let you
branch off into pretty much any archetype that uses cyber]<<<<<
-Cymon (**:**:**/**-**-**)

Last, everyone needs a lifestyle. Congrats! You can still afford a
month at low for 1,000¥.

This leaves you with 100¥, or 10¥ to add to your character's starting
money. Personally, even though we
consider weapon prices to include one full load of ammo, I spend the
left over ¥ to buy extra rounds.
It should be noted that it would be a good idea to use some of your
starting money to flesh out a few
necessities, like a pocket secretary. My character being a decker
decided to get a deck the old-fashioned
way, he stole it.

-- Cymon

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