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From:	kawaii kawaii@********.org
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:15:50 -0400 (EDT)

Message no. 1 And mercifully, this is one of the reasons why this rule didn't make it into
the book. No offense Jon, but treating the signature of a spirit in this
manner is pu

From:	Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:31:41 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 2 The next 2 points up to the maximum of skill, cost 2
skill points each. That's another 4 points, for a
total cost of 8.

In tabular form:
Skill - 6
Linked Attribute - 4
Skill Level Points/Level Total Points Cost
1 1 1
2 1 2
3 1 3
4 1 4
5 2 6
6 2 8

Clear enough for ya? ;-)

====Doc'
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From docwagon101@*****.com Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:43:37 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:43:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: A What??!!?? (Re: Dumb Things [Long : ae])

> > What did the other players and/or characters do
to him afterwards? A shiv in the Fuchi jail, perhaps?
:)
>
> Okay, I've gotta ask. What is a "shiv"????
> -K

AFAIK (I can't say definitively, as I've never had one
stuck in me), a shiv is a makeshift knife usually
found in jails. It can be made out of practically
anything, so long as it's got a blade (usually
sharpened on the concrete floors) and a handle.

I believe they're also called "shanks" and probably
have myriad other names, depending on where in the
world you find it (sticking out of you).

Lovely things. Even if it doesn't kill you, you're
probably going to get infected but good.

*Doc' had a special knife, once. It was called a
K'niffy and it was magical.

Doc' was eight years old at the time. Doc' was NOT stupid...*

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dyn

From:	strago@*.com strago@*.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:52:25 -500

Message no. 3 tyrell hughes wrote:
>

> <pulls on heat retardent space suit>
>
> how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodcjuck could chuck wood?
> What is Vegemite?
> Hi Dvicki!
> I'm still going for most ot created, and most munchinous newbie of the year,
> btw :^)

How is it that Captain Chaos manages to keep the ot stuff to a minimum?
I mean the most OT I've ever seen was in cyberpirates.

Shadowland must have a very good gridsec department :)

gordon

From gmcc@*********.ie Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:46:01 +0100
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:46:01 +0100
From: Gordon McCormick gmcc@*********.ie
Subject: Goth Weenies

Marc Renouf wrote:
>
> Vampire is an interesting game with a pretty well constructed
> background story, but *man* does it attract some flakes.

Same way D&D attracts wierdos, and have you seen the folks that play
WH40K? Also, Star Trek and Babylon 5 have there s

From:	Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200

Message no. 4 GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ UL P L+ E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998

From gurth@******.nl Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?

According to Tony Glinka, at 11:30 on 27 Oct 99, the word on the street
was...

> So you all should just give me some respect now. 'Cause I'll be a one
> baaad man when the Awakening goes down. :)

What, you'll be even worse than you are now? ;)

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PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
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From:	Airwasp@*.com Airwasp@*.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:17:21 EDT

Message no. 5 -----Original Message-----
From: Kismet <kismet_sr@*****.com>
To: ShadowRN <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: 27 October 1999 10:53
Subject: Several Decking Questions

>1. How can you reduce the Die Rolling? Geez! This hit
>our group particularly hard. We actually role play
>most situations and save die rolls for the combat
>situations. As the decker you roll for EVERYthing!

The GM and decker player have to KNOW the rules well.

All the tests to be made are basically in the same format and can be
handled very quickly if the participants know exactly what to do and
get it over with ASAP. I've found that few tests are really essential.
The Logon to Host operation is indespensible and from there its up to
the decker as to how many tests he makes. Remember, the more things he
wants to do the higher his Security Tally is going to go and the
sooner he is going to be forced to leave or fight

From:	BRUCE gyro@********.co.za
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:38:05 +0200

Message no. 6 ~BONG!~

Wrong! Under SR3 canon anyway. Is this a house rule Mike?

Bruce <gyro@********.co.za>
RULE NO 1:
DONT GET CAUGHT

Here's to the sun God, He sure is a fun God, Ra, Ra, Ra

From saarons@*****.colostate.edu Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:51:30 -0600
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:51:30 -0600
From: Aaronious saarons@*****.colostate.edu
Subject: OT:Shiv vs. Shim

>I think he's probably talking about a "shim." A sharpened spoon or
something
>like that (I prefer dull ones ever since Prince of Thieves with really
>chiller Sheriff of Nottingham).

A "shim" is a tapering piece of material (often wood) used when leveling
objects (such as a door frame during construction). "Shiv" has been
correctly defined several times already.

S. Aaron Spriggs, Bugologist
Entomologists know how to spread 'em and pin 'em.

From dbuehrer@****.org Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:00:02 -0600
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:00:02 -0600
From: dbuehrer@****.org dbuehrer@****.org
Subject: Goth Weenies

Anyone ever put some Goth LARPing NPCs in front of the PCs? (While
presenting them as real vampires, until the PCs guns start blazing that
is?) <EGMG>

-Graht
--
"Earn what you have been given."

From abortion_engine@*******.com Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:05:27 -0400
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From:	Oliver McDonald oliver@*********.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:53:26 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 7 Actually, the following from the SR3 book says otherwise: (pg 57, left column paragraph 6)
The
last sentence of the paragraph reads: "For skills with ratings higher than the linked
Attribute, each
point over the Attribute Rating costs 2 Skill Points."

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From datwinkdaddy@*******.com Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:05:58 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:05:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Da Twink Daddy datwinkdaddy@*******.com
Subject: Several Decking Questions

Today, Gurth spoke on Re: Several Decking Questions:

> According to Scott W, at 20:57 on 27 Oct 99, the word on the street was...
>
> > ] If he were sustaining a spell you would just have the +2 TN for
> > ] concentrating on the spell. Of course the spell wouldn't detect
> > ] enemies in
> > ] the Matrix though, just enemies that walked up to him physically while he
> > ] was decking.

Definately.

> > Unless they were in the same room, maybe jacked in at the next
> > terminal over...

Maybe not.

> IMHO, no, unless the person on the next terminal is aware that the icon
> (s)he's attacking, belongs to the decker sitting in the same room. As
> such, it would probably help in the 2060s equivalent of a Quake-party, but
> apart from that...?

The detect enemies spell doesn't say that the 'enemy' has to KNOW he
has hostile intentions toward

From:	Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:07:14 -0400

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From renouf@********.com Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: A What??!!?? (Re: Dumb Things [Long : ae])

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 Ereskanti@***.com wrote:

> > What did the other players and/or characters do to him
> > afterwards? A shiv in the Fuchi jail, perhaps? :)
>
> Okay, I've gotta ask. What is a "shiv"????

Like a "shank" but different. :P

Marc

From datwinkdaddy@*******.com Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:15:08 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:15:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Da Twink Daddy datwinkdaddy@*******.com
Subject: Starting skills

Today, Airwasp@***.com spoke on Re: Starting skills:

> In a message dated 10/28/99 12:17:02 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> kawaii@********.org writes:
>
> > Anyone know if it costs more skill points during chargen to raise a skill
> > above a linked attribute? If so, how much more? =) Or is my player
> > correct? Thanks!
>
> Kawaii, during character creation, attribute limitations are not taken into
> acco

From:	Da Twink Daddy datwinkdaddy@*******.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:15:08 -0500 (CDT)

Message no. 9 >Now I was just wondering what the speculations out there are for the >3rd E
Monk. I know that information is scarce and that the entire >world awaits,
but I just want to get a feeling of what everyone out >there is
expecting/hoping for. I know that I await the "rebirth" with >excitement
tinged with trediptation. Any info or thoughts that have >bounced around
out there would be great to hear.

What am I hoping for? Ideally? Something like Danila (I think I'm
mixing up her and Danilo. I'm thinking of Cadderly's wife).

Strong, quick, agile, doesn't need armor or weapons, but can be well-trained
in them. Can meditate for (minorly) increased hp regeneration, can resist
mental/emotional attacks better than most.

But! Most of all, I'm looking forward to a class I can combine with the
Sorcerer class for a very twinky char to kill Brian (fr

From:	abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:19:50 -0400

Message no. 10 Marc

From gmcc@*********.ie Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:31:18 +0100
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:31:18 +0100
From: Gordon McCormick gmcc@*********.ie
Subject: Goth Weenies

Marc Renouf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Gordon McCormick wrote:
>
> > Yup, freaks and wierdo's seem to get everywhere :)
>
> Yeah. Now that you mention it, there *are* freaks and weirdos
> everywhere. Almost as if everybody but me is a weirdo. Funny, that. :)

I mentioned that to a few freaks round here and they concurred, it's
true, Marc is the only normal person on the planet! So, er, what's it
like? :)

*gordon decides to show his wierdness by doing the th

From:	Ereskanti@*.com Ereskanti@*.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:17:57 EDT

Message no. 11 Good point... To deckers, the icon _is_ the person on the other side (just
like Da Twink Daddy is

Da Twink Daddy
e-mail: bss03@*******.uark.edu
ICQ: 514984

to me, and probably to many other listmembers as well) so if the decker
has hostile intentions toward the mage's icon, the spell may register the
decker anyway. That is, if the enemy decker is a real dec

From:	Airwasp@*.com Airwasp@*.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:45:03 EDT

Message no. 12 Sorry I wasn't more clear.

From ahrain_drigar@*******.com Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:21:44 EDT
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:21:44 EDT
From: Ahrain Drigar ahrain_drigar@*******.com
Subject: OT: Where do you live? (was RE: Damn the crasy ppl are real)

>From: "Mike & Linda Frankl" <mlfrankl@***.com>
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:07

Message no. 13 Mike, I think what he was referring to was the idea that the "reality" of th

From:	Ereskanti@*.com Ereskanti@*.com
Subject:	Starting skills
Date:	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:09:17 EDT

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