Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: "Leszek Karlik, aka Mike" <trrkt@*****.ONET.PL>
Subject: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:38:33 +0000
As we all know, the principle of "Geek the mage first" applies to
both sides of law-enforcement war, and those nasty shadowrunners
won't be likely to spare the mage that is supporting your Fast
Response Team. That's why Ares developped our new weapon:

The Ultimate Magic Gun_

Can be shaped like any gun you wish, from Light Pistol and up! Works
best in SMG+ sized package, though.

The Magic Gun_ consists of a gun-shaped body, purely optical camera
linked to a 500 m of fiber-optic cable on a special spool, goggles
and one Mage (Shaman or Sorcerer will do as well)*. The first 5
meters of fiber-optic cable near the gun are sheathed in Ruthenium
Polymers, making them hard to detect. Note that the spool is located
next to the mage.
Now you can bring your fireballs with you without endangering the
mage, and provide your opposition with a nasty surprise.

Also perfect for throwing Hellblasts around corners!

The total price of the package is 70.000¥.

*Small print: Batteries not needed and mage not included.

---
Designer notes: This will actually work, guys. And it's pretty nasty
when used with a drill (drill a hole in the shadowrunning scum's
bathroom ceiling and blast him with a manabolt/stunbolt when he's
taking a shower. ;P )


Leszek Karlik, aka Mike - trrkt@*****.onet.pl; http://www.wlkp.top.pl/~bea=
r/mike;
Star Wars fan and Amber junkie; FIAWOL; WTF TKD TOO;
FL/GN Leszek/Raptor II/ISD Vanguard, (SS) (PC) (ISM) {IWATS-IIC} JH(Sith)=
/House Scholae Palatinae
Inter-City trains are fully air-conditioned - ONLY BECAUSE WINDOWS ARE S=
TUCK
Message no. 2
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:32:20 EST
In a message dated 97-12-27 17:39:05 EST, trrkt@*****.ONET.PL writes:

> The Ultimate Magic Gun_
> Can be shaped like any gun you wish, from Light Pistol and up! Works
> best in SMG+ sized package, though.

Larger "Optics" usually (*not* always) mean a better image though, this is
true...

> The Magic Gun_ consists of a gun-shaped body, purely optical camera
> linked to a 500 m of fiber-optic cable on a special spool, goggles
> and one Mage (Shaman or Sorcerer will do as well)*. The first 5
> meters of fiber-optic cable near the gun are sheathed in Ruthenium
> Polymers, making them hard to detect. Note that the spool is located
> next to the mage.
> Now you can bring your fireballs with you without endangering the
> mage, and provide your opposition with a nasty surprise.

"Say CHEESE!!!" <*BOOM*>

> Also perfect for throwing Hellblasts around corners!

Well, "Perfect" is a completely relative term here....

> The total price of the package is 70.000¥.

OH my, this is a really perverse idea, but it has merit in many ways....I
think I like it...

> *Small print: Batteries not needed and mage not included.

Damn It! And here I thought retailers would have gotten smart after the
Christmas Seasons '97....
-K
Message no. 3
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:31:08 -0500
At 08:32 PM 12/27/97 EST, Ereskanti wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 97-12-27 17:39:05 EST, trrkt@*****.ONET.PL writes:
>
>> The Ultimate Magic Gun_
>> Can be shaped like any gun you wish, from Light Pistol and up! Works
>> best in SMG+ sized package, though.
>
[SNIP]

Ohhh, this is such a FUN idea... For NPC use only, of course :]

>> *Small print: Batteries not needed and mage not included.
>
>Damn It! And here I thought retailers would have gotten smart after the
>Christmas Seasons '97....
>
Yeah, right.... Like that will EVER happen...

BTW: If ONE more person asks me for Fragging Scream 2 on Video, I will
shoot them!

((Sorry, for some fucking reason, everyone who comes into the video store I
work at seems to be under the impression that we have every movie ever
made, and even some that aren't, even if they aren;t even out at the
theater yet... :( ))

Bull
--
Bull, aka Steven Ratkovich, aka Rak, aka Chaos, aka a lot of others! :]

The Offical Cuddly Celebrity Shadowrn Mailing List Welcome and Archive
Answer Ork Decker!
Fearless Leader of the Star Wars Mailing List
List Flunky of ShadowCreations, creators of the Newbies Guide,
---- in production now!
HOME PAGE: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/3604/home.html
NEW!!!! UIN: 6460938

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you
please."
-- Mark Twain
Message no. 4
From: "Leszek Karlik, aka Mike" <trrkt@*****.ONET.PL>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:42:49 +0000
On 27 Dec 97, Bull disseminated foul capitalist propaganda by
writing:

> >> The Ultimate Magic Gun_
<snip>

> Ohhh, this is such a FUN idea... For NPC use only, of course :]

Of course NPC only. <grin> Well, I have envisioned putting this on a
tracking mount of a CyberZombie.

<evil GM grin>

I'm starting GMing SR, ya know.
;>


Leszek Karlik, aka Mike - trrkt@*****.onet.pl; http://www.wlkp.top.pl/~bear/mike;
Star Wars fan and Amber junkie; FIAWOL; WTF TKD TOO;
FL/GN Leszek/Raptor II/ISD Vanguard, (SS) (PC) (ISM) {IWATS-IIC} JH(Sith)/House Scholae
Palatinae
Keep Poland green - have sex with a frog.
Message no. 5
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 23:15:50 EST
In a message dated 97-12-27 22:33:51 EST, chaos@*****.COM writes:

> BTW: If ONE more person asks me for Fragging Scream 2 on Video, I will
> shoot them!

Hey, go get one of those "Sniper Rifles" in the other conversation line...
;)

> ((Sorry, for some fucking reason, everyone who comes into the video store I
> work at seems to be under the impression that we have every movie ever
> made, and even some that aren't, even if they aren;t even out at the
> theater yet... :( ))

Mike (Airwisp) just asked me to ask you (don't ask why he won't ask
himself...grin) if you've heard of the new invention via Spaceballs, the
"Future Show"thingie, lets' you play out the entire script ahead of time, sit
down and watch the final editing...you know, all the good stuff.

Ranks right up there with the ability Mike has to sit in a movie and tell you
the good parts before they happen....(remember telling Jon about Jedi "Luke I
am you Father..."?)

-K
Message no. 6
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:24:01 +0000
In article <3.0.16.19971227220415.2ca7695a@*****.com>, Bull
<chaos@*****.COM> waffled & burbled about Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
>BTW: If ONE more person asks me for Fragging Scream 2 on Video, I will
>shoot them!
>
>((Sorry, for some fucking reason, everyone who comes into the video store I
>work at seems to be under the impression that we have every movie ever
>made, and even some that aren't, even if they aren;t even out at the
>theater yet... :( ))

Gotta love advertising, huh? It's not the people Bull, it's the morons
at marketing. You know, the overpaid, bloated arseholes who insist on
covering every aspect of something prior to it's release, filming, or in
some cases (Aliens 5, etc) even the script stage, usually with wild
innaccuracies built in.

Add into this lunacy, the "blip-verts" from Max Headroom, and the
wonderful experiment with subliminal advertising that shot through the
States in the 70's and you might just have an idea of advertising in
2058. How do you fancy working retail then, huh?

--
Dark Avenger -:- http://www.shalako.demon.co.uk/index.htm -
Unofficial Shadowtk Newbies Guide, Edgerunners Datastore &
Beginnings of the Underseas Sourcebook.
http://freespace.virgin.net/pete.sims/index.htm - Alternative UK Sourcebook
(U/C)
Message no. 7
From: TODD ROBBINS <digger-@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 02:17:05 -0600
Bull wrote:


> BTW: If ONE more person asks me for Fragging Scream 2 on Video, I will
> shoot them!

Remember, aim for the knees first.

> ((Sorry, for some fucking reason, everyone who comes into the video store I
> work at seems to be under the impression that we have every movie ever
> made, and even some that aren't, even if they aren;t even out at the
> theater yet... :( ))

Have you tried placing a few signs in the store? You know, Caution:
Coffee is served Hot, Caution: Asking stupid questions will result in
your execution - that sort of thing.


Digger
Message no. 8
From: Andy Gardner <A.Gardner@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:44:16 +0000
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:24:01 Avenger did foresay

> In article <3.0.16.19971227220415.2ca7695a@*****.com>, Bull
[Snip, even if relevant]
> Add into this lunacy, the "blip-verts" from Max Headroom, and the
> wonderful experiment with subliminal advertising that shot through the
> States in the 70's and you might just have an idea of advertising in
> 2058. How do you fancy working retail then, huh?

Heh, guess how many of us are going to put a stressed out / berzerk
retail agent as an NPC in one of our near future runs ?
The one who is an amateur decker who has overridden the traffic
grid control system to broadcast "trid chip x not available" to
all the cars and nothing else.

<EGMG>

I think that Bull might be considered predicatable if he uses it
though, even if it's good stress relief.
While I'm thinking about it, how many of you GM's have used parodies
of yourself, your work or your players as NPC's for the amusement
value ? Especially since it gives the players a chance to blow it
away in good fun if you stage it correctly.
Fox on the Net
ICQ UIN - 5239612
Message no. 9
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:12:15 +0000
And verily, did Bull hastily scribble thusly...
|BTW: If ONE more person asks me for Fragging Scream 2 on Video, I will
|shoot them!

Errr. Excuse me...
Has Screem 2 come out on video yet?

|((Sorry, for some fucking reason, everyone who comes into the video store I
|work at seems to be under the impression that we have every movie ever
|made, and even some that aren't, even if they aren;t even out at the
|theater yet... :( ))

Well. That's Mr Average American for you.
As thick as pig shit, with the charisma of same...
:)

Not that anyone on this list is average of course...
:)


|Bull
|--
|Bull, aka Steven Ratkovich, aka Rak, aka Chaos, aka a lot of others! :]
|
|The Offical Cuddly Celebrity Shadowrn Mailing List Welcome and Archive
|Answer Ork Decker!

Good grief... This is getting longer by the day!
(I take it he's cuddly now because of the luxuriant gray fur?)

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 10
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:26:01 +0000
And verily, did TODD ROBBINS hastily scribble thusly...
| Have you tried placing a few signs in the store? You know, Caution:
|Coffee is served Hot, Caution: Asking stupid questions will result in
|your execution - that sort of thing.

LOL!
There was actually a news story in the Daily Express yesterday about just
that. All these stupid labels, like the one on the chainsaw saying
"WARNING: Do not attempt to stop the chain with your hand.", or the one on
the milk bottle saying "Once opened, keep in an upright position."

Why is it that common sense seems to be so lacking in americans these days
that they'll sue a toothpick company if it doesn't have a label on the
packet saying "Warning: Do not poke in eyes", and they do????

And now the same labels are appearing over here.
Don't think anyone would succeed in sueing over it though. They'd be laughed
out of the courts...
</rant>
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 11
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 10:29:08 EST
In a message dated 97-12-28 08:26:35 EST, u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK writes:

> LOL!
> There was actually a news story in the Daily Express yesterday about just
> that. All these stupid labels, like the one on the chainsaw saying
> "WARNING: Do not attempt to stop the chain with your hand.", or the one on
> the milk bottle saying "Once opened, keep in an upright position."

Oh yeah, or "any Candy caught melting in your hands is to be washed off
immediately...."

> Why is it that common sense seems to be so lacking in americans these days
> that they'll sue a toothpick company if it doesn't have a label on the
> packet saying "Warning: Do not poke in eyes", and they do????

Sad to say it guy, it ain't just "us Americans"....it's everywhere...

> And now the same labels are appearing over here.
> Don't think anyone would succeed in sueing over it though. They'd be
laughed
> out of the courts...

Again, sad to say it's happening...I think most of the "modern societies" are
getting bored with theirselves so they'll do what shouldn't be done. And it
just keeps happening....

I know, it's a conspiracy....the Insurance Companies are secretly blipverting
and subliminating our Coca-Cola products so that we'll read any add and
reverse it, the chemicals in those products are making the synapses in our
bodies reverse their polarities so we do the exact opposite of what we are
supposed to do....

-K (who did like Conpsiracy Theory...IS IT OUT ON TAPE YET!!!!)
Message no. 12
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 15:42:23 +0000
And verily, did Ereskanti hastily scribble thusly...
|> Why is it that common sense seems to be so lacking in americans these days
|> that they'll sue a toothpick company if it doesn't have a label on the
|> packet saying "Warning: Do not poke in eyes", and they do????
|
|Sad to say it guy, it ain't just "us Americans"....it's everywhere...

The labels, yes. The legal bollocks, not yet.

|> And now the same labels are appearing over here.
|> Don't think anyone would succeed in sueing over it though. They'd be
|laughed
|> out of the courts...
|
|Again, sad to say it's happening...I think most of the "modern societies" are
|getting bored with theirselves so they'll do what shouldn't be done. And it
|just keeps happening....

Not in England. As I said, anyone who tried to sue an electrical company for
not having a label on the iron saying "Warning: Do not iron clothes while
worn" would be laughed out of the courts.

Stupidity isn't a defense in Britain.... yet....

|-K (who did like Conpsiracy Theory...IS IT OUT ON TAPE YET!!!!)

Not a bad film. Don't know about video though.
(Not seen any ads for it over here...)

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 13
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:29:37 EST
In a message dated 97-12-28 10:43:16 EST, u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK writes:

> |-K (who did like Conpsiracy Theory...IS IT OUT ON TAPE YET!!!!)
>
> Not a bad film. Don't know about video though.
> (Not seen any ads for it over here...)
>
I am replying this on purpose, just wait and see if the right person gets
it....(ewg)

-K
Message no. 14
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:09:28 EST
In a message dated 97-12-28 11:30:34 EST, you write:

> > |-K (who did like Conpsiracy Theory...IS IT OUT ON TAPE YET!!!!)
> >
> > Not a bad film. Don't know about video though.
> > (Not seen any ads for it over here...)
> >
> I am replying this on purpose, just wait and see if the right person gets
> it....(ewg)
>
> -K
>
I want to see what that person says also ...

Mike
Message no. 15
From: Tony Rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:53:03 -0600
------Begin forward message-------------------------

From: rabiola
To: u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK
Date: 12/28/97 11:50:59
Message-Id: <19971228115059126500@**.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.27, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc.

On 12/28/97 15:42:23 you wrote:
>
>And verily, did Ereskanti hastily scribble thusly...
>|> Why is it that common sense seems to be so lacking in americans these days
>|> that they'll sue a toothpick company if it doesn't have a label on the
>|> packet saying "Warning: Do not poke in eyes", and they do????
>|
>|Sad to say it guy, it ain't just "us Americans"....it's everywhere...
>
>The labels, yes. The legal bollocks, not yet.
>

heh! Reminds me of a comedy bit by a comedian here.

Dear Preparation H,

I have been eating your product recently, as per label directions to use as needed, to
reduce
the swelling and inflamation of hemmoridal tissue. I still have the hemmoroids, but now I
can
suck watermelon through a straw....


Or the gal that put contraceptive jelly on her toastt before having sex....


Makes you wonder...



Argent

Rabiola@**.netcom.com
Argent - Elven Fixer Extrodinaire
It was hot, the night we burned Chrome...
Message no. 16
From: Deosyne <deosyne@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 08:20:28 -0500
----------
> From: Andy Gardner <A.Gardner@******.COM>

> On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:24:01 Avenger did foresay
>
> > In article <3.0.16.19971227220415.2ca7695a@*****.com>, Bull
> [Snip, even if relevant]
> > Add into this lunacy, the "blip-verts" from Max Headroom, and the
> > wonderful experiment with subliminal advertising that shot through
the
> > States in the 70's and you might just have an idea of advertising
in
> > 2058. How do you fancy working retail then, huh?
>

I just quit Blockbuster Video after a year when they decided to
reformat the entire store. Thinking of what it would be like after
seventy of them... EWWW. :)


> Heh, guess how many of us are going to put a stressed out / berzerk
> retail agent as an NPC in one of our near future runs ?
> The one who is an amateur decker who has overridden the traffic
> grid control system to broadcast "trid chip x not available" to
> all the cars and nothing else.
>

Already been done. Actually he was going around with a truckload of
detcord and blasting the words, "If it's in the theatre, it ain't on
video!!!" into the sides of large buildings. The PC's were hired by the
city to stop him (the cops weren't too effective). After "tagging" 23
buildings. the PC's caught him and found him another job working for a
fixer buddy of theirs! Caught me off guard with that move. :)


> <EGMG>
>
> I think that Bull might be considered predicatable if he uses it
> though, even if it's good stress relief.
> While I'm thinking about it, how many of you GM's have used parodies
> of yourself, your work or your players as NPC's for the amusement
> value ? Especially since it gives the players a chance to blow it
> away in good fun if you stage it correctly.

That's what I thought would happen... Best laid plans of mice and
men... :)

Shawn

_____________________________________________________________________

That which does not kill me has made a big friggin' mistake.
Message no. 17
From: losthalo <losthalo@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:37:36 -0500
At 02:17 AM 12/28/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Bull wrote:
>
>
>> BTW: If ONE more person asks me for Fragging Scream 2 on Video, I will
>> shoot them!
>
> Remember, aim for the knees first.
>
>> ((Sorry, for some fucking reason, everyone who comes into the video store I
>> work at seems to be under the impression that we have every movie ever
>> made, and even some that aren't, even if they aren;t even out at the
>> theater yet... :( ))
>
> Have you tried placing a few signs in the store? You know, Caution:
>Coffee is served Hot, Caution: Asking stupid questions will result in
>your execution - that sort of thing.
>
ALL SHOPLIFTERS WILL BE EXECUTED!!

Anyone catch the reference?


losthalo@********.comGoFa6)7(Im6TJt)Fe(7P!ShMoB4/19.2Bk!cBkc8MBV6sM3ZG
oPuTeiClbMehC6a23=n4bSSH173g4L??96FmT1Ea4@*********************
4h7sM8zSsYnk6BSMmpFNN0393NRfmSLusOH1Whileyouarelisteningyourwillingat
tentionismakingyoumoreandmoreintothepersonyouwanttobecome
Message no. 18
From: Aaron Jones <aaronj@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 19:59:42 -0500
>And verily, did TODD ROBBINS hastily scribble thusly...
>| Have you tried placing a few signs in the store? You know, Caution:
>|Coffee is served Hot, Caution: Asking stupid questions will result in
>|your execution - that sort of thing.
>
>LOL!
>There was actually a news story in the Daily Express yesterday about just
>that. All these stupid labels, like the one on the chainsaw saying
>"WARNING: Do not attempt to stop the chain with your hand.", or the one on
>the milk bottle saying "Once opened, keep in an upright position."

The truly sad thing is that I've heard about the chainsaw one...A
guy tried to stop the chainsaw with his hand...then tried to sue. The
company just told him to look in the manual (where this TRULY inane warning
appeared) and laughed him out of court.
I heard the theory that Americans do this the most because people in
other countries would be too ashamed to admit that they actually did
something that stupid. (Note: I am not bashing Americans...I am one. But
you have to admit that it is stupid...)
Side note about stupid things: Consider toad-licking. Someone had
to try it for no reason whatsoever, the TELL other people that they did
it...Scary, isn't it?

aaronj@******.com
Aaron (Still no SIG file) Jones
Message no. 19
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 11:32:04 +0100
Ereskanti said on 10:29/28 Dec 97...

> > Why is it that common sense seems to be so lacking in americans these days
> > that they'll sue a toothpick company if it doesn't have a label on the
> > packet saying "Warning: Do not poke in eyes", and they do????
>
> Sad to say it guy, it ain't just "us Americans"....it's everywhere...

It must be everywhere except Europe, then, since all the lawsuit-horror
stories I've heard come from the US.

> > And now the same labels are appearing over here.
> > Don't think anyone would succeed in sueing over it though. They'd be laughed
> > out of the courts...
>
> Again, sad to say it's happening...I think most of the "modern societies"
are
> getting bored with theirselves so they'll do what shouldn't be done. And it
> just keeps happening....

Spike is right as far as being laughed out of court is concerned. Try
suing someone here because you did somehting stupid with their product and
they'll most likely tell you to stop wasting the court's time.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html - UIN5044116
There are two things you can do...
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version 3.1:
GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+ PE
Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Message no. 20
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:34:37 -0700
> > The Magic Gun_ consists of a gun-shaped body, purely optical camera
> > linked to a 500 m of fiber-optic cable on a special spool, goggles

The only thing I can think of is..have you ever worked with FOC?? It
is down right fragile..I just cannot see dragging this cabke around
and tromping on it and it lasting more that a couple of uses..
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
===============================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
===============================================
Kind of a bummer. Gettin' your butt kicked by a dead guy.
- Lt Col McQueen
The truth is a three edged sword. - Kosh

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about Stats: The ultimate Magic Gun_, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.

Thwap!