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Message no. 1
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Steve Kenson, Front and Center
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:02:38 -0500
:)

Okay Steve, here's a question that's been bugging me about Awakenings:

In your breakdown of the Conjuring Skills, you(? FASA editor?) state that
the character can concentrate in a SPECIFIC type of spirit (Fire Elemental,
City Spirit, whatever)

However, in SRII, this is listed as a Spirit TYPE, with specific Spirits as
Specializations.

Is this an oversight, or a revision?

-=SwiftOne=-
(Lemme guess: regardless of what it was, it is now a revision? :) )
Message no. 2
From: Steve Kenson <TalonMail@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Steve Kenson, Front and Center
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:30:20 -0500
>Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> wrote:

>Okay Steve, here's a question that's been bugging me about Awakenings:
>In your breakdown of the Conjuring Skills, you(? FASA editor?) state that
>the character can concentrate in a SPECIFIC type of spirit (Fire Elemental,
>City Spirit, whatever)
>
>However, in SRII, this is listed as a Spirit TYPE, with specific Spirits as
>Specializations.
>
>Is this an oversight, or a revision?
>
>-=SwiftOne=-
>(Lemme guess: regardless of what it was, it is now a revision? :) )

(sound of book pages flipping as Steve tries to recall what the hell he was
thinking at the time...) Okaaay, let's see here:

It's a goof on my part. The thought process ran that, since mages can't
summon nature spirits (and shamans can't summon elementals) why wouldn't
everyone Concentrate in the spirit-type of their tradition and deal with
losing a point of skill dealing with banishing the other. It really ought to
be Concentrate by class of spirit (Elemental or Nature Spirit), Specialize by
type (Fire Elemental, River Spirit, etc.). Take that for what you will.

Steve
Message no. 3
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Steve Kenson, Front and Center
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:40:29 +0000
On 21 Feb 97 at 9:30, Steve Kenson wrote:
[snip]
> It's a goof on my part. The thought process ran that, since mages can't
> summon nature spirits (and shamans can't summon elementals) why wouldn't
> everyone Concentrate in the spirit-type of their tradition and deal with
> losing a point of skill dealing with banishing the other. It really ought to
> be Concentrate by class of spirit (Elemental or Nature Spirit), Specialize by
> type (Fire Elemental, River Spirit, etc.). Take that for what you will.
To answer your question: Because the magician might want to conjure
watchers, or maybe even an ally? I designed my shaman with SRI rules
(yeah, he's been a long time in action :-) and nearly bit my ... some
part of my anatomy off when Grimoire 1 made its way to my hands...

Sascha
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Message no. 4
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Steve Kenson, Front and Center
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 03:50:08 EST
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:30:20 -0500 Steve Kenson <TalonMail@***.COM>
writes:
>>Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> wrote:
>
>(sound of book pages flipping as Steve tries to recall what the hell he
was
>thinking at the time...) Okaaay, let's see here:
>
>It's a goof on my part. The thought process ran that, since mages can't
>summon nature spirits (and shamans can't summon elementals) why wouldn't
>everyone Concentrate in the spirit-type of their tradition and deal with
>losing a point of skill dealing with banishing the other. It really
ought to
>be Concentrate by class of spirit (Elemental or Nature Spirit),
Specialize by
>type (Fire Elemental, River Spirit, etc.). Take that for what you will.
>
>Steve
>

I thought that how it DID work.
(Maybe I never bothered to read the rules too carefully when I switched
from SRI to SRII.)

Either way, that's how I've _always_ played it..

~Tim
Message no. 5
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Steve Kenson, Front and Center
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:30:43 -0500
>I thought that how it DID work.
>(Maybe I never bothered to read the rules too carefully when I switched
>from SRI to SRII.)
>
>Either way, that's how I've _always_ played it..

Right...I think...

Based on what Steve clarified:

it is, was, and should be (awakenings not withstanding):
Conjuring
-Spirit Class
--Specific Spirit Type

Awakenings had it differently, but Steve said that was a wupsie.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 6
From: Droopy <droopy@*******.NB.NET>
Subject: Re: Steve Kenson, Front and Center
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:17:00 +0000
> From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
> Subject: Re: Steve Kenson, Front and Center

> >It's a goof on my part. The thought process ran that, since mages can't
> >summon nature spirits (and shamans can't summon elementals) why wouldn't
> >everyone Concentrate in the spirit-type of their tradition and deal with
> >losing a point of skill dealing with banishing the other. It really

> I thought that how it DID work.
> (Maybe I never bothered to read the rules too carefully when I switched
> from SRI to SRII.)

Nope. By the rules, you could concentrate on the other tradition.
That's not a change IIRC.


--Droopy
droopy@**.net

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