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Message no. 1
From: "Leszek Karlik, aka Mike" <trrkt@*****.ONET.PL>
Subject: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:10:00 +0000
On 28 Mar 98, Airwasp disseminated foul capitalist propaganda by
writing:

<snip>
> And I have been using Airliner chasses to make the larger Panzers,
> such as the Stonewalls and the like, the true heavy panzers of the
> Military.

On a slightly unrelated note: I have always thought that Stonewall
MBT was a _real_ tank, that is, tracked et al. I don't have the
RBB, though, so I would be happy if some kind soul could enlighten
me. <grin>


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Message no. 2
From: Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:24:48 -0500
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At 06:10 PM 3/28/98 +0000, Leszek Karlik wrote:
>On a slightly unrelated note: I have always thought that Stonewall
>MBT was a _real_ tank, that is, tracked et al. I don't have the
>RBB, though, so I would be happy if some kind soul could enlighten
>me. <grin>

RBB, page 95, Paragraph 2:
"Strategic intelligence systems report the vehicle carries either a
pure vector-thrust, or a combination vector/ground-effect drive
system."

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Message no. 3
From: Frank Pelletier <jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:02:36 +0000
"Leszek Karlik, aka Mike" <trrkt@*****.ONET.PL> once wrote,

>
> On a slightly unrelated note: I have always thought that Stonewall
> MBT was a _real_ tank, that is, tracked et al. I don't have the
> RBB, though, so I would be happy if some kind soul could enlighten
> me. <grin>
>

No... AFAIK, the Stonewall is a GUV (Ground Effect Vehicle)...on par with
panzers... I would really want to know what kind of engine blasts that
thing...it must be at least..80-100 tons... ack

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Message no. 4
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:54:01 EST
In a message dated 98-03-28 12:08:22 EST, you write:

<< > And I have been using Airliner chasses to make the larger Panzers,
> such as the Stonewalls and the like, the true heavy panzers of the
> Military.

On a slightly unrelated note: I have always thought that Stonewall
MBT was a _real_ tank, that is, tracked et al. I don't have the
RBB, though, so I would be happy if some kind soul could enlighten
me. <grin>
>>

Leslie, the Stonewall MBT is a huge panzer with all sorts of firepower and the
like, go to Wigs's website (you can get there via Hoosier Hacker House
-http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/intro.htm) and from there go to the
Summerfest link and then go the section within on vehicles for the party.
There is a pic of a panzer and that is what a Stonewall looks like.

Mike
Message no. 5
From: "Leszek Karlik, aka Mike" <trrkt@*****.ONET.PL>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:27:22 +0000
On 28 Mar 98, Airwasp disseminated foul capitalist propaganda by
writing:

<snip>
> Leslie, the Stonewall MBT is a huge panzer with all sorts of
> firepower and the like, go to Wigs's website (you can get there via
> Hoosier Hacker House -http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/intro.htm) and
> from there go to the Summerfest link and then go the section within
> on vehicles for the party. There is a pic of a panzer and that is
> what a Stonewall looks like.

Hmmm... There's no Summerfest link on the Wigs' website, and the
summerfest page on the HHH page has no section with vehicles...
;>


Leszek Karlik, aka Mike - trrkt@*****.onet.pl; http://www.wlkp.top.pl/~bear/mike;
Amber fan and Star Wars junkie; UIN 6947998; WTF TKD; FIAWOL; YMMV; IMAO; SNAFU; TANJ
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Message no. 6
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:23:29 EST
In a message dated 98-03-28 18:25:56 EST, you write:

<< > Leslie, the Stonewall MBT is a huge panzer with all sorts of
> firepower and the like, go to Wigs's website (you can get there via
> Hoosier Hacker House -http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/intro.htm) and
> from there go to the Summerfest link and then go the section within
> on vehicles for the party. There is a pic of a panzer and that is
> what a Stonewall looks like.

Hmmm... There's no Summerfest link on the Wigs' website, and the
summerfest page on the HHH page has no section with vehicles... >>

Sorry, try the following address instead and go to the Lobo Grande description
... Wigs used the pic for the MBT for the Lobo ...

http://www-personal.monash.edu.au/~wigs/srun/aztlan/tech/

Mike
Message no. 7
From: "Leszek Karlik, aka Mike" <trrkt@*****.ONET.PL>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:41:52 +0000
On 28 Mar 98, Airwasp disseminated foul capitalist propaganda by
writing:

<snip>
> Sorry, try the following address instead and go to the Lobo Grande
> description ... Wigs used the pic for the MBT for the Lobo ...
>
> http://www-personal.monash.edu.au/~wigs/srun/aztlan/tech/

Thanks.

Hmmm... Don't they have REAL tanks in SR? <grin> This looks like an
overgrown Banshee, and if it has a similar economy... Well... Let's
just say I prefer conventional vehicles. ;>

> Mike


Leszek Karlik, aka Mike - trrkt@*****.onet.pl; http://www.wlkp.top.pl/~bear/mike;
Amber fan and Star Wars junkie; UIN 6947998; WTF TKD; FIAWOL; YMMV; IMAO; SNAFU; TANJ
Geek Code v3.1 GL/O d- s+: a19 C+++ W-(++) N+++ K? w(---) O@ M- PS+(+++) PE Y+
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Message no. 8
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:17:54 EST
In a message dated 98-03-28 20:43:45 EST, you write:

<< > Sorry, try the following address instead and go to the Lobo Grande
> description ... Wigs used the pic for the MBT for the Lobo ...
>
> http://www-personal.monash.edu.au/~wigs/srun/aztlan/tech/

Thanks.

Hmmm... Don't they have REAL tanks in SR? <grin> This looks like an
overgrown Banshee, and if it has a similar economy... Well... Let's
just say I prefer conventional vehicles. ;> >>

That it is, though what a true ground tank is also truly frightening, (hehe)
and I am trying to imagine a Body 10 Tank ... something frightening.

Mike
Message no. 9
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Stonewall (was Re: Doing Something Funny with a VTOL engine
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:36:02 +0100
In article <199803281812.NAA11887@****.qc.ca>, Frank Pelletier
<jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA> writes
>No... AFAIK, the Stonewall is a GUV (Ground Effect Vehicle)...on par with
>panzers... I would really want to know what kind of engine blasts that
>thing...it must be at least..80-100 tons... ack

I say - my opinion only - the Rigger Black Book entry is CAS
disinformation, combining a scout LAV with a tracked MBT ;)

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