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Message no. 1
From: Charles R Joseph <arcaneacuity@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stop this OS bullshit,
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:13:26 -0400
On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:16:17 -0400 George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM> writes:
> Sounds good to me, especially since it dovetails rather nicely with
>the discussion about the Nexus and Denver Data Haven in the Denver
>player's book. Offhand question, if I asked this already, feel free to
thwap away.
>What's people's thoughts on the old VR1.0 rule on magic and the matrix
being
>incompatible? I really don't see a reason for this myself - I do have
>a bit of a shamanic outlook on life, so it's easy to see even the
Internet
>as alive - but I had a concept for a magical group of decker/magicians,
and a
>friend of mine got his feathers in a ruffle, so I thought I'd get other
>opinions.
>
> Wolfstar

Well, as a player, my current character is a magically active
decker, meaning that he knows how to do both things (he just really sucks
at them). I've often thought about how the matrix and magic could
possibly interact. My GM and I decided that a sufficiently talented mage
(someone way out of my league) could design spells which would affect the
matrix in certain ways, but they wouldn't really function in anyway
comparable to a real world magic affect. To use an example, somewhere on
the net (I think) is an Increase Matrix Reaction spell. Since that has
an effect specifically tailored for interaction with the matrix, it's
okay. However, no one can learn the increase Reaction spell, and expect
it to work in the matrix as well as the meat world.


Winter Wolfe Arcane
arcaneacuity@****.com

"When our hatred is violent, it sinks us even beneath those we hate."
Message no. 2
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stop this OS bullshit,
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 03:31:27 EDT
On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:07:12 +0100 Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
writes:

>I don't suppose anyone knows how to read PDF in UNIX do they?
>I tried GHOSTVIEW and XV, but they don't work....

um... downloading Adobe's Acrobat Reader for Unix would be my FIRST
guess....

~Tim
Message no. 3
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stop this OS bullshit,
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 21:02:12 EDT
On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:16:17 -0400 George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM> writes:

<<Offhand question, if I asked this already, feel free to thwap away.
What's people's thoughts on the old VR1.0 rule on magic and the matrix
being incompatible? I really don't see a reason for this myself - I do
have a bit of a shamanic outlook on life, so it's easy to see even the
Internet as alive - but I had a concept for a magical group of
decker/magicians, and a friend of mine got his feathers in a ruffle, so I
thought I'd get other opinions.>>


I don't suppose you want to hear that I disagree with it, do you? :)
I have no problem with allowing a magician to deck, with certain
restrictions: magic interferes with technology, so he will probably pick
up the modifier (or at least some portion of it) from the Matrix rules in
SR2 if he's using normal, technological means to deck. And if you want to
know how I expect to get around that, ask Loki, since I originally
borrowed the idea from him:)


--
-Canthros, borrowing ideas left and right
I had rather believe all the fables in the legends and the Talmud
and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind.
--Francis Bacon
http://members.aol.com/canthros1
Message no. 4
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Stop this OS bullshit,
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:42:36 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-04 21:03:03 EDT, you write:

> I don't suppose you want to hear that I disagree with it, do you? :)
> I have no problem with allowing a magician to deck, with certain
> restrictions: magic interferes with technology, so he will probably pick
> up the modifier (or at least some portion of it) from the Matrix rules in
> SR2 if he's using normal, technological means to deck. And if you want to
> know how I expect to get around that, ask Loki, since I originally
> borrowed the idea from him:)

Actually, I'm not 100% sure what the penalty was, and usually, it's put
forth that the technology interferes with magic. regardless, with a raise
intelligence +4 and a raise quickness +4 spell, plus the fact that yer gonna
lose a point of magic for .25 essence for the datajack so you might as well
load up on some cyber(Math SPU, possibly an Encephalon or some such), the
penalty can't be that bad. Really inventive ones can turn their deck-case
into a power focus or something, and after he initiates, anchored detect and
treat spells can do all sortsa wonders for neural damage. A decker/magician
could be pretty formidable. I'd say that they'de be required to take geasa
for every point of magic lost to cyberware, instead of a decking restriction.

Wolfstar

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