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Message no. 1
From: Gabriel Sims <grendel_22@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Story+Question
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:29:44 PDT
Granite has written:

>If the GM wants him to break down and start using Elementals he/she
>should start setting up situations where an elemental would be
>useful..

Our GM doesn't like to, but he has absolutely no problem with killing
all of us. He gives out a LOT of warnings and stuff. EX: "How long did
you guys say you were going to stick around...You remember where you
are...right? (oh yeah, Fort Lewis)

>>He also wants to know just WHY he should summon an elemental?
>
>I am a bit curious why this person has crippled his character in this
>manner elementals are useful in a number of ways..including the
>ability to engage more than one enemy at the same time..And they are
>great for creating diversions..

He has never played a mage before. The other shadowrun campaign that he
played evidently didn't have magic users of any sort. They switched
between AD&D and Shadowrun (time travel or somthing...)

We showed him the entry in the BBB on Elemental services and thier
stats...He still claimed not to understand them enough. I personally
think that he's underestimating thier powers...

Bio-Hazard

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Message no. 2
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Story+Question
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:03:55 -0600
Gabriel Sims wrote:
|
| >I am a bit curious why this person has crippled his character in this
| >manner elementals are useful in a number of ways..including the
| >ability to engage more than one enemy at the same time..And they are
| >great for creating diversions..
|
| He has never played a mage before. The other shadowrun campaign that he
| played evidently didn't have magic users of any sort. They switched
| between AD&D and Shadowrun (time travel or somthing...)
|
| We showed him the entry in the BBB on Elemental services and thier
| stats...He still claimed not to understand them enough. I personally
| think that he's underestimating thier powers...

This guy shouldn't be playing a mage. No offense, but if a player
doesn't take the time to learn the rules that govern his character,
or can't understand them, then he should play something else. If the
player likes magic, but can't understand the rules concerning
elementals, then he should play a sorcerer adept (spell caster only),
a shaman (easier conjuring rules) or a physad. If he isn't taking
the time to read the rules then try to change his philosophy about
that. If he still won't read the rules then he should be playing
something simple, or the GM and the other players should decide if
they want to take up the slack and help him out. If it's a really
bad case of not reading *and* not caring about the rules, then maybe
he shouldn't be playing a roleplaying game.

Anyway, take the time to talk to the guy and find out what he wants
before you and the group make any harsh decisions.

-David
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm
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which ones to keep."
Message no. 3
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Story+Question
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:21:50 +0000
On 23 Sep 97 at 8:03, David Buehrer wrote:

> This guy shouldn't be playing a mage. No offense, but if a player
> doesn't take the time to learn the rules that govern his character,
> or can't understand them, then he should play something else. If the
> player likes magic, but can't understand the rules concerning
> elementals, then he should play a sorcerer adept (spell caster only),
> a shaman (easier conjuring rules) or a physad.

This is exactly what a player in my game is doing. He doesn't have
the books, and didn't bother to take my up on my offer to borrow
mine, so he knows very little about SR magic. He is an experience
RP'er, though, and wanted to play a mage, so we decided on a sorcerer
adept. And he loved using the difference in points between and adept
and a mage to buy force points and get more spells. He thinks he's
gained something. So everyone's happy.

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