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Message no. 1
From: Midn Daniel O Fredrikson <m992148@****.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Stun vs Regeneration
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:23:46 -0500
This may sound stupid, but I don't remember anything in the area of
regernation refering to stun damage. But it would be stupid to be able
knock out a vamp with a punch when you could shoot him full of holes and
he wouldn't be hurt. And if he heals stun at the same rate, vamp mages
must be really nasty.

Regeneration vs Magic Loss: do shapeshifters, vamps, and other magically
active regerating creatures loose magic when taking deadly wounds, or does
their ability to regerate decrease the chances since there body is
resuming its original form, there would be less chance of misalignment
between the spirit and the body.
Message no. 2
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stun vs Regeneration
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:10:15 EST
On Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:23:46 -0500 Midn Daniel O Fredrikson
<m992148@****.NAVY.MIL> writes:
>This may sound stupid, but I don't remember anything in the area of
>regernation refering to stun damage. But it would be stupid to be
>able
>knock out a vamp with a punch when you could shoot him full of holes
>and
>he wouldn't be hurt. And if he heals stun at the same rate, vamp
>mages
>must be really nasty.
You're right, they would. Which is why they don't. That and because Stun
damage doesn't (in game terms:) represent "real" damage-like open wounds
and similar bits and pieces.
>
>Regeneration vs Magic Loss: do shapeshifters, vamps, and other
>magically
>active regerating creatures loose magic when taking deadly wounds, or
>does
>their ability to regerate decrease the chances since there body is
>resuming its original form, there would be less chance of misalignment
>between the spirit and the body.
>
"Despite these impressive regenerative powers, shapeshifter characters
are not indestructible. If a shapeshifter takes damage equal to or
greater than his or her Body Rating + 10, the character dies, regardless
of his or her form. A shapeshifter magician who survives Deadly damage
must still check for magic loss per standard rules. Additionally,
shapeshifter magicians regenerate the Physical damage caused by
spellcasting Drain at a rate of 1 Damage box per minute. If a
shapeshifter takes Deadly Physical damage from Drain, the player
character rolls 1D6; the character dies on a result of 1 or 2."

Quoted from what FASA posted concerning shapeshifters as PCs on the
Internet. So, I would rule that regenerate mages would still have to
check for Magic loss...as for casting spells with physical drain, I think
the above limitation would work for a nice equalizer:)

John Pederson "God is dead"
lobo1@****.com -Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 to
1900)
I don't know where my home page is! "Nietzsche is dead"
Only dead fish swim with the stream -God (everlasting to everlasting)
Message no. 3
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Stun vs Regeneration
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:51:12 +0000
On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, John E Pederson wrote:

> >he wouldn't be hurt. And if he heals stun at the same rate, vamp
> >mages must be really nasty.
> You're right, they would. Which is why they don't. That and because Stun
> damage doesn't (in game terms:) represent "real" damage-like open wounds
> and similar bits and pieces.
Um in an old isssue of KA.Ge Tom Dowd 'unofficially' stated that
regeneration does include stun damage.

The Digital Mage : mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"So that which I imagine, is that which I believe" -Rush
Shadowrun Web Site http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mn3rge/Shadowrun.html
Message no. 4
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Stun vs Regeneration
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:18:02 EST
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:51:12 +0000 The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
writes:
>On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, John E Pederson wrote:
>
>> >he wouldn't be hurt. And if he heals stun at the same rate, vamp
>> >mages must be really nasty.
>> You're right, they would. Which is why they don't. That and because
>Stun
>> damage doesn't (in game terms:) represent "real" damage-like open
>wounds
>> and similar bits and pieces.
>Um in an old isssue of KA.Ge Tom Dowd 'unofficially' stated that
>regeneration does include stun damage.
<shrug>As it was stated earlier, DLoH rulings aren't really canon,
necessarily. Besides, if a regenerate was that powerful, my teammates
would have serious reason to fear my former character (a shapeshifter
mage), which I'm currently using for an NPC (or will be when I get the
game started this weekend:)...hmmm....<evil ideas sprouting:)>

John Pederson "God is dead"
lobo1@****.com -Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 to
1900)
I don't know where my home page is! "Nietzsche is dead"
Only dead fish swim with the stream -God (everlasting to everlasting)

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