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Message no. 1
From: "Damion Milliken" <dam01@***.edu.au>
Subject: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:50:05 +1000 (EST)
Hi everyone, I'm in need of your collective creative genious.

I'm going to be running Super Tuesday in a month or so during the mid year
break (I plan on letting my players determine the vote to send back on the
response card, based on their running experiences in the module). Now, my
campaign is set in 2053 (although shadowtech is well entrenched, and FoF gear
is trickling in, Awakenings and Cybertech are unheard of). I am moving the
election scandel from the 2056 election to the 2052 election - fits nicely.
Bug city has also yet to occur in my game. And when it does occur, I plan
on having the PC's intimately involved (I've been setting them up -
unknowingly of course - with KE/Ares Johnsons for various bug related runs
for some time - their team is going to be in on the big bug breakout bust,
or at least nearby). Now, I only have two weeks in which to run this things
mid-year (remember, in the southern hemisphere, the summer break of a couple
of months is over new year). I feel that the 5 runs in Super Tuesday will
just fit into this tight schedule. But Bug City runs, and the introduction
of Bug City, will most certainly not. And I wish to run the module _before_
the due date of the response card obviously.

Therein lies my problem. I wish to run the modules in Super Tuesday, but
without Bug City being a major political issue, and without Casualties of
War being set in Bug City. Hence I need another large scale military op to
be occuring, so that I can run a module _similar_ in configuration and
possible political/moral consequences as Casualties of War, but without
introducing Bug City. Something with magic associated with it would also be
preferable, as the magic aspect of the election, and the slant Bug City puts
on it, is important to the module.

I've thought of a couple of possibilites, each with their own pros and
cons. Firstly, I could have the run set in one of the many urban no-go
zones, like the Seattle barrens (or the Chicago shattergraves). In this way
I could run the module quite similar to the way it is set down,
particularily if I put in place some kind of police/authorities crackdown
so's that border guardposts can be setup. The problem here is that
something BIG will need to be occuring, which is kind of difficult to
arrange (at least without copying Bug City overly). Another thought I had
was setting up a military invasion of a portion of the UCAS by a
neighbouring (or not) nation. Say Atzlan annexes some coastal city of the
UCAS. This allows quite a combat zone to be set up. However, it slightly
changes the political scene - the candidates favouring a superior military
will obviously be in better standing, and those dencouncing magic will not
quite have the "Bug City" argument that they have in the module as written.
I've thought of having some corporation take over a city with a merc army,
but then this subtly changes the perception of corporations within the
election context.

What I need, is a Bug City when you're not having a Bug City. Something
with appropriately large scale consequences and repercussions, but that will
not alter the background of the module and the atmosphere of the election
too much.

Ideas, suggestions, thoughts, criticisms, additions, notes, advice, etc.
anyone?

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au

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Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Thu, 23 May 96 22:51:57 +1030
>Therein lies my problem. I wish to run the modules in Super Tuesday, but
>without Bug City being a major political issue, and without Casualties of
>War being set in Bug City. Hence I need another large scale military op to
>be occuring, so that I can run a module _similar_ in configuration and
>possible political/moral consequences as Casualties of War, but without
>introducing Bug City. Something with magic associated with it would also be
>preferable, as the magic aspect of the election, and the slant Bug City puts
>on it, is important to the module.

Send 'em to Aztlan. Mundo military possibilities ('specially near the
Texas border), lots of magic, including the political/moral consequences.
Also ties in with Pennchyk still (hey, they do want to re-integrate the
CAS, right?)


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Message no. 3
From: Peter David Boddy <pdboddy@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Thu, 23 May 96 11:58:52 EDT
Hey, remember the Universall Brotherhood? If you read the Bug City
sourcebook, and the novel on which BC was based (I forget the name, can
someone remember the name?) you might get the subtle hints that incidents
similar to that in Chicago, happened in major cities in N. America, and in
fact, major cities around the world. What about having the Seattle based
hives begin thier activities prematurely? Or maybe have the Washington,
DC, hives begin early. This should give them a taste of things to come
(hope they aren't subed to this list:)). This could be run in the
background even, perhaps becoming part of someones election platform (As
president, I would strive to make cities safer, eliminating the horrrors
of magically awakened, highly dangerous, creatures....etc, etc, blah blah:)).

Hope this helps, sorry if it doesn't.

Pete

Pete aka Spitfire
Test your might...
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Carleton University
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Message no. 4
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 12:52:15 +0200
At 13:50 Uhr 23.05.96, Damion Milliken wrote:
>Ideas, suggestions, thoughts, criticisms, additions, notes, advice, etc.
>anyone?
Yup. Don't post spoilers on ShadowRN when there's still ShadowGM.
Please.

Sascha

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Message no. 5
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 15:33:08 +0100 (BST)
|
|At 13:50 Uhr 23.05.96, Damion Milliken wrote:
|>Ideas, suggestions, thoughts, criticisms, additions, notes, advice, etc.
|>anyone?
|Yup. Don't post spoilers on ShadowRN when there's still ShadowGM.
|Please.

Yeh.... but who uses shadowGM? I don't even know the address.
(It's not a part of this listserver is it?)

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Message no. 6
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 18:37:33 +0200
At 16:33 Uhr 24.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
>Yeh.... but who uses shadowGM? I don't even know the address.
>(It's not a part of this listserver is it?)

Just Gamemasters, so don't you worry :-)

Sascha

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Message no. 7
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 17:47:29 +0100 (BST)
|
|At 16:33 Uhr 24.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
|>Yeh.... but who uses shadowGM? I don't even know the address.
|>(It's not a part of this listserver is it?)
|
|Just Gamemasters, so don't you worry :-)

I *am* a gamemaster, when I get the chance, which hasn't been much this year
yet.....

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Message no. 8
From: "Randy Nickel (General)" <a-randyn@*********.com>
Subject: RE: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 10:18:18 -0700
|At 16:33 Uhr 24.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
|>Yeh.... but who uses shadowGM? I don't even know the address.
|>(It's not a part of this listserver is it?)
|
|Just Gamemasters, so don't you worry :-)

>I *am* a gamemaster, when I get the chance, which hasn't been much this year
>yet.....

So is there an actual Gamesmaster listserver?

Randy Nickel
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|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
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|Comp Sci & something | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
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Message no. 9
From: Fro <fro@***.ab.ca>
Subject: RE: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 16:58:46 -0600
At 10:18 24/05/96 -0700, you wrote:

>So is there an actual Gamesmaster listserver?
>Randy Nickel

Well, I one a little one, seperate from this mailing list. Its run from my
account <fro@***.ab.ca> and is a mutual back scratching GM's type list, in
as much you send something useful to a GM (module, spells, some NPC's, a
location description, etc) and then you get whatever else is sent in after
that date. Right now its pretty dead, but I think most people are busy with
finals and such and don't have much time, and also, its been awhile since I
plugged it. Also, for those that aren't on the list, it will be made into a
NetBook every so often, so you don't need to subscribe to get the stuff on
it..but then, there would be no stuff!!

Fro
Message no. 10
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:05:30 +0100
A Halliwell said on 15:33/24 May 96...

> Yeh.... but who uses shadowGM? I don't even know the address.

ShadowGM was actually quite busy lately.

> (It's not a part of this listserver is it?)

That's because Hayden objected to it being set up in the first place.

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Message no. 11
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: RE: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:05:30 +0100
Fro said on 16:58/24 May 96...

> At 10:18 24/05/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >So is there an actual Gamesmaster listserver?
> >Randy Nickel
>
> Well, I one a little one, seperate from this mailing list. Its run from my
> account <fro@***.ab.ca> and is a mutual back scratching GM's type list, in
> as much you send something useful to a GM (module, spells, some NPC's, a
> location description, etc) and then you get whatever else is sent in after
> that date.

Actually, the list that is generally thought of as the Shadowrun
gamemaster's list is ShadowGM@******.residence.gatech.edu
to which you can subscribe by sending "subscribe shadowgm" to
majordomo@******.residence.gatech.edu.

It does seem, however, that there is no way to get off the list, according
to Ed anyway.

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Message no. 12
From: "Damion Milliken" <dam01@***.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 22:23:43 +1000 (EST)
Sascha Pabst writes:

> At 13:50 Uhr 23.05.96, Damion Milliken wrote:
> >Ideas, suggestions, thoughts, criticisms, additions, notes, advice, etc.
> >anyone?
> Yup. Don't post spoilers on ShadowRN when there's still ShadowGM.
> Please.

Ooops, sorry - I should have included spoiler warnings <smack on wrist>. If
someone has a copy of my post could they please mail it to me? I didn't
keep a copy myself. :-( And before you say "check the logs", I did. They
only go back 2 days. Is this intentional? Mark?

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au

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Message no. 13
From: Stephen Delear <shadow@***.com>
Subject: Re: Super Tuesday, Casualties of War
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 03:02:41 -0500 (CDT)
Would someone please E-mail me with the addresses and susbscription info
for the other shadowrun lists.

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