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Message no. 1
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
> I don't know ... the suprathyroid gland modifies
metabolsm. At a guess (and it's only a guess) changes
in metabolism would take days to effect which is
probably not what you wanted.

No, not days.

> Hmmmm... this is probably not what you want, but
what about if you could somehow keep reserves of
glucose ready to be released into the blood stream?
Should give you a burst of energy/increase stamina...
> D. Ghost

Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
something that could give you a sustained energy boost
over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
without the constant hyperactivity of the
Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
item of bioware? :)

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Message no. 2
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:35:00 -0700 (PDT)
<Snippola(TM)>
> Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
something that could give you a sustained energy boost
over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
without the constant hyperactivity of the
Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
item of bioware? :)

I forgot to add (although this may be self-evident
from my wording) - you should be able to activate and
deactivate it (preferably at will, but probably by
using some kind of drug).


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Message no. 3
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:35:23 -0700 (PDT)
<Snippola(TM)>
> Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
something that could give you a sustained energy boost
over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
without the constant hyperactivity of the
Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
item of bioware? :)

I forgot to add (although this may be self-evident
from my wording) - you should be able to activate and
deactivate it (preferably at will, but probably by
using some kind of drug).


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Message no. 4
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
<Snippola(TM)>
> Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
something that could give you a sustained energy boost
over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
without the constant hyperactivity of the
Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
item of bioware? :)

I forgot to add (although this may be self-evident
from my wording) - you should be able to activate and
deactivate it (preferably at will, but probably by
using some kind of drug).

====Doc'
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Message no. 5
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:07:49 -0500
On Tue, 9 May 2000 20:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Rand
Ratinac?<docwagon101@*****.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
> something that could give you a sustained energy boost
> over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
> without the constant hyperactivity of the
> Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
> item of bioware? :)

I think just introducing glucose into the bloodstream (I think it needs
some kind of handler) will give you energy. You'll also need Extended
Volume because, IIRC, those sore muscles are caused from oxygen
deprevation.

I would treat that as a chemical gland but instead of charging for the
chemical, apply the suprathyroid's lifestyle increase.

.... Now what would trigger it? Same as Adrenal Pump?

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Message no. 6
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT)
> > Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
something that could give you a sustained energy boost
over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
without the constant hyperactivity of the
Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
item of bioware? :)
>
> I think just introducing glucose into the
bloodstream (I think it needs some kind of handler)
will give you energy. You'll also need Extended Volume
because, IIRC, those sore muscles are caused from
oxygen deprevation.

Don't forget Synthacardium to handle to additional
strain on the heart and to keep you going even longer.
:)

> I would treat that as a chemical gland but instead
of charging for the chemical, apply the suprathyroid's
lifestyle increase.

Oooh, I LIKE that...:)

> ..... Now what would trigger it? Same as Adrenal
Pump?
> D. Ghost

Exertion and excitement, plus a certain drug to
manually trigger it? Sounds good to me. I don't think
you'd want to have it triggered by bursts of
excitement etc. though. I think extended periods of
exertion (5 minutes or more) would be a good trigger.
So if you're running away from someone, after 5
minutes, it kicks in and you start running faster and
can keep running longer. Man, I REALLY like
this...this is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks,
Al. :)

Any other comments on this?

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Message no. 7
From: Charles S Remis cremis@******.net
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:01:29 -0500
Rand Ratinac wrote:

> > > Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
> something that could give you a sustained energy boost
> over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
> without the constant hyperactivity of the
> Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
> item of bioware? :)

When the Suprathyroid Gland originally came out in ShadowTech
I immediately dismissed it as a NPC only system. Great effects,
but who wants to die of old age at 30? (It's description
states that it increases the overall metabolic rate [read that
as also increasing aging rate, possibly greatly], unlike the
current edition which instead states that it increases metabolic
efficiency). So it rested for a few years, until I ran a
campaign which had a PC closely associated with a biotech firm,
a former company woman who still had some close ties. As she
would likely have access to Bioware throughout the campaign, I
wanted some room for improvement in Bioware, but cultured
bioware is specifically introduced at the same time as standard
bioware, so I bit the bullet and wrote up several new systems
and improvements on several existing systems (mostly variants
which made certain systems less suicidal to use). I introduced
a Restructured Suprathyroid Gland which only provided its
benefits while the character was active or excited (mostly
based on the presence of excess adrenaline in their system,
caffeine addicts beware, but I never tried to detail it's
exact chemical triggers, sure, adrenaline would activate it,
but so might other stuff). While the system is not really
needed in the current edition from the aging standpoint, it
would still be harder to detect unless active, would greatly
decrease the food requirements, and could certainly fill
the role you desire of it. It could easily be triggered
by a spray of some type or even a simple warm up routine with
some coffee afterwards...

Two comments. The price is probably out of line given that
it is no longer that much better than the standard StG, and
I have included the writeup of the original StG for comparison
purposes. If it is different from the current (or previous
for that matter) writeup, then the RStG should be modified
accordingly.

Suprathyroid Gland Bio 1.4 20000 6P-BB 8/12 days
2.5 +1 Body, Q, Str, React, 2x food, -1TN vs thermal
detect
Restructured Suprathyroid Gland Bio 1.4 250000 6P-BB
16/24 days 3 +1 Body, Q, Str, React, 2x food
next meal after exertion/excitement, -1TN vs thermal after
exertion/excitement

Regards,

CSR
Message no. 8
From: Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt jjp@******.nl
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:35:36 +0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rand Ratinac" <docwagon101@*****.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Suprathyroid or other bioware


As far as the thyroid gland is concerned: this gland produces thyroxine
and calcitocin (of which the first is truly relevant to your question).
Thyroxine, produced under the influence of TSH (which is normally
produced by the pituitary gland, though apparently the suprathyroid
takes care of the increased TSH requirement all by itself), stimulates
and maintains cellular metabolic activities, which in turn means that
all chemical reactions within the body's cells are accelerated.
What you're looking for, though, is something that gives a "sudden
(temporary) boost", which in this case wouldn't truly be the case.

> > > Okay, let's change the question. I'm looking for
> something that could give you a sustained energy boost
> over a long (up to an hour or two) period of time, but
> without the constant hyperactivity of the
> Suprathyroid. Does anyone have any ideas for a new
> item of bioware? :)
> >
> > I think just introducing glucose into the
> bloodstream (I think it needs some kind of handler)
> will give you energy. You'll also need Extended Volume
> because, IIRC, those sore muscles are caused from
> oxygen deprevation.

To be more precise: it's your body's cells respiring anaerobically (i.e:
without using oxygen, often caused by a lack of oxygen) which results in
lactic acid being produced. Muscle burn, then, is lactic acid heaping up
with abandon waiting to be processed by the liver (though most of the
time it's the day after that you feel it most). Anyway, increasing the
amount of glucose and oxygen available, as well as somehow enabling the
rest of your body to utilise all of that (hmm, perhaps that suprathyroid
is needed after all) could conceivably work.

> Don't forget Synthacardium to handle to additional
> strain on the heart and to keep you going even longer.
> :)

Yeah, you'd need to "upgrade" other bits of body too, though it all
depends on the intensity of the boost: anyone can take a sugar rush
every now and then...

> > I would treat that as a chemical gland but instead
> of charging for the chemical, apply the suprathyroid's
> lifestyle increase.
>
> Oooh, I LIKE that...:)
>
> > ..... Now what would trigger it? Same as Adrenal
> Pump?
> > D. Ghost

As drug inhalation and such isn't exactly the most erotic of things, I'd
say a mix between cyber and bioware would be the most effective thing:
simply add a voluntary cyberware trigger to a bioware gland (or go
all-cyber, in which case you'd have to refill every now and then :).

> Exertion and excitement, plus a certain drug to
> manually trigger it? Sounds good to me. I don't think
> you'd want to have it triggered by bursts of
> excitement etc. though. I think extended periods of
> exertion (5 minutes or more) would be a good trigger.
> So if you're running away from someone, after 5
> minutes, it kicks in and you start running faster and
> can keep running longer. Man, I REALLY like
> this...this is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks,
> Al. :)
>
> Any other comments on this?

Well, seems you've already got your solution... I guess I just felt like
filling in some of the basic biological systems involved (the discussion
seemed to be progressing on a rather unscientific basis :-).


Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt, Terminally Bored
Message no. 9
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:10:48 GMT
>From: Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com>
><Snippola(TM)>

Damn!

Actually this message belongs to the cyberpro thread but seeing as no one
(whose message I have read yet) has posted any cyberware not out of MM I'm
going to post one of Gurth's Cyberpunk conversions (because I know he's far
to modest).

Contraceptive Implant Legal
Implanted under the left armpit, it prevents pregnancy for up to five years.
Available for both sexes.
Essence Cost Availability Cost Street Index
.05 6/4 days 1,000¥ 1.25

>>>>>[Just what I need! No pregnancy for me!]<<<<<
Pure Male (15:31:57/06-13-55)

>>>>>[Har har har.]<<<<<
Aunt Annie (17:51:44/06-20-55)
Mr. Studd Sexual Implant Legal
All night, every night, and she'll never know. Available also in the
Midnight Lady version for the distaff side.
Essence Cost Availability Cost Street Index
.35 3/48hrs 3,000¥ 2
Use your imagination and add +1 die to your Seduction skill checks.

>>>>>[I bet Pure Male has one of these]<<<<<
Aunt Annie (17:59:29/06-20-55)

There is alos I site on the Webring with a kind of expanded version of this,
I had a look but I can't remember where I found it.

Okay, the question has to now be asked; why the desperate searching for
prostitute cyberware? (you don't want to know is an answer I would accept
:)).

Phil

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Message no. 10
From: Albert L. Wyatt III "Skip" thirteencycle@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:15:32 -0400
Another possible solution for a bioware system to *smack* pump you up,
would be an adrenal storage system, or even an "Epi pen" tm. The
adrenal pump ups the amount of adrenaline at a certain time allowing you
to run faster jump higher etc. The Suprathyroid now increases and
maximizes metabolism, making you bigger, meaner, etc. A better solution
would be a way to maximize the amount of oxygen and glucose hitting the
muscles. this would up you big time, and allow you to be bigger ,meaner
etc. One way is modding the pituitary gland, the one respoosible for
growth, and boosting it to release growth hormones during strenuos
activity. The growth hormones make sure that muscles get fed more, and
recieve more oxygen so the cells can split. This would only require a
moderate amount of extra food, and could be used to make your body build
more during standard workouts. The epi pen tm, stands for a small
injection of epinepherin, a drug used to remove allergic reactions from
the body, stored in a needle that is avaiable over the counter. the
Epinepherin puts your body in overdrive for about 20 minutes, and then
crashes you pretty hard. Not to mention after an hour, you have to pee
pretty damn bad. I hope some of this helped, and please feel free for
suggestions/corrections, as I am pretty new at posting here.
"It's okay to laugh during a Shadowrun, just don't point."
THE 13cycle
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Message no. 11
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:54:38 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: Suprathyroid or other bioware


>>From: Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com>
>><Snippola(TM)>
>
>Damn!
>
>Actually this message belongs to the cyberpro thread but seeing as no one
>(whose message I have read yet) has posted any cyberware not out of MM I'm
>going to post one of Gurth's Cyberpunk conversions (because I know he's far
>to modest).
>
>Contraceptive Implant Legal
>Implanted under the left armpit, it prevents pregnancy for up to five
years.
>Available for both sexes.
>Essence Cost Availability Cost Street Index
> .05 6/4 days 1,000¥ 1.25
>
>>>>>>[Just what I need! No pregnancy for me!]<<<<<
> Pure Male (15:31:57/06-13-55)
>
>>>>>>[Har har har.]<<<<<
> Aunt Annie (17:51:44/06-20-55)
>Mr. Studd Sexual Implant Legal
>All night, every night, and she'll never know. Available also in the
>Midnight Lady version for the distaff side.
>Essence Cost Availability Cost Street Index
>.35 3/48hrs 3,000¥ 2
>Use your imagination and add +1 die to your Seduction skill checks.
>
>>>>>>[I bet Pure Male has one of these]<<<<<
> Aunt Annie (17:59:29/06-20-55)
>
>There is alos I site on the Webring with a kind of expanded version of
this,
>I had a look but I can't remember where I found it.
>
>Okay, the question has to now be asked; why the desperate searching for
>prostitute cyberware? (you don't want to know is an answer I would accept
>:)).
>
>Phil


The one and only game of Cyberpunk I played, my character got the full
conversion kit to become a Playbeing or whatever they're called. The
braindead sex machines that nobody will take seriously. His first night out
after the surgery, he mishandled a seduction (had to do a test drive), and
got kneed in the ovals. He kind of whimpered and said "Not the new
implants!"
You gotta respect a roleplaying game that will include a cyberpenis as
canon.
Message no. 12
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:45:31 -0700 (PDT)
>Okay, the question has to now be asked; why the
desperate searching for prostitute cyberware? (you
don't want to know is an answer I would accept :)).
>Phil

Actually, the correct answer is you're not ALLOWED to
know - but you don't want to know is close enough for
all intents and purposes. :)


====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 13
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:53:48 -0700 (PDT)
<BigSnip(TM)>
> Suprathyroid Gland Bio 1.4 20000 6P-BB 8/12 days
> 2.5 +1 Body, Q, Str, React, 2x food, -1TN vs
thermal detect

I believe this costs 80k in SR3. Could be wrong,
though.

> Restructured Suprathyroid Gland Bio 1.4 250000 6P-BB
> 16/24 days 3 +1 Body, Q, Str, React, 2x food
> next meal after exertion/excitement, -1TN vs
> thermal after
> exertion/excitement
> Regards,
> CSR

Thanks, Charles (sorry, I can't call you CSR - that's
a company that makes sugar and sugar products over
here in Australia :) ). This is definitely one of the
possibilities I'm after (the other being a chem
gland-type thing).

I think you might want to reduce the cost (with the
standard model costing 80k (IIRC), I think twice that
(160k) would be enough for the on/off model). I'd also
suggest dropping the Bio Index cost somewhat - maybe
to 1.

The question is, for the knowledgeable among us, is
this "possible", or does it come back to the fact that
juicing the metabolism is a big change that can't
really be turned on and off quickly?

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 14
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
<BigSNIP(TM)>
> I hope some of this helped, and please feel free for
suggestions/corrections, as I am pretty new at posting
here.
> "It's okay to laugh during a Shadowrun, just don't
point."
> THE 13cycle
> Skip

Skip, thanks for the data. Unfortunately, it's not
what I'm looking for, but I'm sure someone will find
it useful.


====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 15
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:54:28 -0500
On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:54:38 +1000 "Simon and Fiona"
<sfuller@******.com.au> writes:
<SNIP>
> You gotta respect a roleplaying game that will include a cyberpenis
> as
> canon.

"A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong imagery ... ;)

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From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT)
--- Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > You gotta respect a roleplaying game that will
> include a cyberpenis
> > as
> > canon.
>
> "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong
> imagery ... ;)
> D. Ghost

Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy
to see me?

Uh it's kinda both...

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Message no. 17
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 08:23:19 -0600
Alfredo B Alves wrote:
>On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:54:38 +1000 "Simon and Fiona"
><sfuller@******.com.au> writes:
><SNIP>
> > You gotta respect a roleplaying game that will include a cyberpenis
> > as
> > canon.
>
>"A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong imagery ... ;)

I swear to god officer, I was just cleaning it and it went off...

:)


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Message no. 18
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:29:56 +0200
According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 6:08 on 11 May 00, the word on the
street was...

> > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong
> > imagery ... ;)
>
> Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy
> to see me?
>
> Uh it's kinda both...

"Canon," not "cannon." The latter is a weapon, the former a biblical
term
(IIRC).

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Message no. 19
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
--- Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 6:08 on 11 May
> 00, the word on the
> street was...
>
> > > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the
> wrong
> > > imagery ... ;)
> >
> > Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just
> happy
> > to see me?
> >
> > Uh it's kinda both...
>
> "Canon," not "cannon." The latter is a weapon, the
> former a biblical term
> (IIRC).
>
> --
> Gurth@******.nl -

Oh but could you imagine the look on the people's
faces when he guns them down...

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Message no. 20
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:42:32 GMT
>From: Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com>
> > > You gotta respect a roleplaying game that will
> > include a cyberpenis
> > > as
> > > canon.
> >
> > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong
> > imagery ... ;)
> > D. Ghost
>
>Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy
>to see me?
>
>Uh it's kinda both...

Hey everyone; I've just invented the next stage in evolution for eye weapons
and oral guns. Sick assassins and street sammies wanting an edge from all
over the world will flock to my cyberclinics of perversion!

Phil
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Message no. 21
From: Yiannakos Yiannako@*******.edu
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:43:52 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>

> >Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy
> >to see me?
> >
> >Uh it's kinda both...
>
> Hey everyone; I've just invented the next stage in evolution for eye
weapons
> and oral guns. Sick assassins and street sammies wanting an edge from all
> over the world will flock to my cyberclinics of perversion!
>
> Phil

Hey, it's just the next generation of the crotch-mounted dual revolver that
the guy had in "From Dusk till Dawn".

---Dave ('s not here man)
*Who WILL someday play a character who has one of those...*
Message no. 22
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:31:14 -0500
On Thu, 11 May 2000 19:42:32 GMT "Phil Smith"
<phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Hey everyone; I've just invented the next stage in evolution for eye
> weapons
> and oral guns. Sick assassins and street sammies wanting an edge
> from all
> over the world will flock to my cyberclinics of perversion!

Who was it that had the Narcojet needles in her nipples?

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Message no. 23
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:23:16 -0500
On Thu, 11 May 2000 19:29:56 +0200 "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl> writes:
> According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 6:08 on 11 May 00, the word on
> the
> street was...
> > > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong
> > > imagery ... ;)

> > Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy
> > to see me?
> >
> > Uh it's kinda both...

> "Canon," not "cannon." The latter is a weapon, the former a
biblical
> term
> (IIRC).

The joke was that they are pronounced the same. :)

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Message no. 24
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:22:08 GMT
>From: Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com>
>--- Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> > According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 6:08 on 11 May
> > 00, the word on the
> > street was...
> >
> > > > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the
> > wrong
> > > > imagery ... ;)
> > >
> > > Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just
> > happy
> > > to see me?
> > >
> > > Uh it's kinda both...
> >
> > "Canon," not "cannon." The latter is a weapon, the
> > former a biblical term
> > (IIRC).
> >
> > --
> > Gurth@******.nl -
>
>Oh but could you imagine the look on the people's
>faces when he guns them down...

Guys I think its time for us to admit it; we've all seen far too many
Quentin Tarantino films haven't we?

Phil
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Message no. 25
From: Mark A Shieh SHODAN+@***.EDU
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:38:40 -0400 (EDT)
"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl> writes:
> According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 6:08 on 11 May 00, the word on the
> street was...
>
> > > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the wrong
> > > imagery ... ;)
> >
> > Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy
> > to see me?
> >
> > Uh it's kinda both...
>
> "Canon," not "cannon." The latter is a weapon, the former a
biblical term
> (IIRC).

Well, yes, that's why it's the WRONG image. :)

"Just call me...(cyber)Sex Machine."
-Tom Savini in "From Dusk Till Dawn", a local Pittsburgher.

I never knew he worked on "Bloodsucking Pharaohs in
Pittsburgh", until I checked IMDB. (FYI, this movie is the reason why
our version of SR Pittsburgh 2060 contains an Egyptian quarter, and is
sufficiently bad that it is hilarious.)

Mark
Message no. 26
From: Mark A Shieh SHODAN+@***.EDU
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:40:20 -0400 (EDT)
"Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
> Guys I think its time for us to admit it; we've all seen far too many
> Quentin Tarantino films haven't we?

Hell no! That was a Robert Rodriguez film, despite any poor
casting decisions that were made. :)

Mark
Message no. 27
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:22:50 GMT
>From: Mark A Shieh <SHODAN+@***.EDU>
>"Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
> > Guys I think its time for us to admit it; we've all seen far too many
> > Quentin Tarantino films haven't we?
>
> Hell no! That was a Robert Rodriguez film, despite any poor
>casting decisions that were made. :)

Actually I was thinking of Desperado at the time.

Phil (lies with forked tongue).
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Message no. 28
From: Sommers sommers@*****.umich.edu
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:31:35 -0400
At 05:22 PM 5/11/2000, Phil Smith wrote:

>>From: Mark A Shieh <SHODAN+@***.EDU>
>>"Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
>> > Guys I think its time for us to admit it; we've all seen far too many
>> > Quentin Tarantino films haven't we?
>>
>> Hell no! That was a Robert Rodriguez film, despite any poor
>>casting decisions that were made. :)
>
>Actually I was thinking of Desperado at the time.
>
>Phil (lies with forked tongue).

They're both by Rodriguez. That's why they both have the crotch gun. ;)

Sommers
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Message no. 29
From: Yiannakos Yiannako@*******.edu
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:33:38 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sommers" <sommers@*****.umich.edu>

> They're both by Rodriguez. That's why they both have the crotch gun. ;)

I knew that Rodriguez did them both, but I don't remember a crotch gun in
desperado...?

---Dave ('s not here man)
Message no. 30
From: Mike & Linda Frankl mlfrankl@***.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:27:26 -0400
Yiannakos commented:
> I knew that Rodriguez did them both, but I don't remember a crotch gun in
> desperado...?
>
> ---Dave ('s not here man)

It was in the guitar case. Salma Hayek picked it up and said, "I don't want
to know what this is for." (or something close to that). Could you imagine
the recoil penalties?

;)

Smilin' Jack

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Message no. 31
From: Yiannakos Yiannako@*******.edu
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:54:49 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Linda Frankl" <mlfrankl@***.com>

> It was in the guitar case. Salma Hayek picked it up and said, "I don't
want
> to know what this is for." (or something close to that). Could you imagine
> the recoil penalties?
>
> ;)
>
> Smilin' Jack

You know, I hadn't thought of that until you said something, and now I can't
forget.
Thanks so much

*mumblegrumbleOWthehumanitymumble*

;-)

---Dave ('s not here man)
Message no. 32
From: Sommers sommers@*****.umich.edu
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:06:35 -0400
At 07:33 PM 5/11/2000, Yiannakos wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sommers" <sommers@*****.umich.edu>
>
> > They're both by Rodriguez. That's why they both have the crotch gun. ;)
>
>I knew that Rodriguez did them both, but I don't remember a crotch gun in
>desperado...?


He has it in the guitar case. Selma Hayek picks it up in the book star and
says she doesn't want to know what it is. He says that its saved his life
more than once.


Sommers
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Message no. 33
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:21:31 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Suprathyroid or other bioware


>
>--- Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
>> According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 6:08 on 11 May
>> 00, the word on the
>> street was...
>>
>> > > "A cyberpenis as canon." just conjures up the
>> wrong
>> > > imagery ... ;)
>> >
>> > Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just
>> happy
>> > to see me?
>> >
>> > Uh it's kinda both...
>>
>> "Canon," not "cannon." The latter is a weapon, the
>> former a biblical term
>> (IIRC).
>>
>> --
>> Gurth@******.nl -
>
>Oh but could you imagine the look on the people's
>faces when he guns them down...
>


Or, as he gets a bit older and tireder (is that a word?), he whips it out
and shoots big holes in his own foot because he didn't take his viagra.
Or when he leaves in a hurry he grabs the wrong one and all the bad guys get
is a bit worried as he thrusts his pelvis and yells "Bang Bang!", but
nothing else happens.
Message no. 34
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:19:31 -0400
Alfredo B Alves wrote:

> On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:54:38 +1000 "Simon and Fiona"
> <sfuller@******.com.au> writes:
> <SNIP>
> > You gotta respect a roleplaying game that will include a cyberpenis
> > as
> > canon.
>
> "A cyberpenis as can[n]on." just conjures up the wrong imagery ... ;)
>

Why am I getting images of Choto Boy? "COCK-ROCKET!!!!" :^)

>
> --
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Message no. 35
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:05:21 -0500
On Thu, 11 May 2000 20:54:49 -0400 "Yiannakos" <Yiannako@*******.edu>
writes:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike & Linda Frankl" <mlfrankl@***.com>
>
> > It was in the guitar case. Salma Hayek picked it up and said, "I
> > don't
> > want
> > to know what this is for." (or something close to that). Could you
> > imagine
> > the recoil penalties?
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Smilin' Jack

> You know, I hadn't thought of that until you said something, and now
> I can't
> forget.
> Thanks so much
>
> *mumblegrumbleOWthehumanitymumble*
>
> ;-)

Thought of what? Selma Hayek with a "crotch gun"? Oh you mean the recoil
penalties ... sorry. :)

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Message no. 36
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:26:42 +0200
According to Alfredo B Alves, at 15:31 on 11 May 00, the word on the
street was...

> Who was it that had the Narcojet needles in her nipples?

Somebody who watched Austin Powers too many times? :)

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Message no. 37
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:38:19 -0500
On Fri, 12 May 2000 12:26:42 +0200 "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl> writes:
> According to Alfredo B Alves, at 15:31 on 11 May 00, the word on the
> street was...
> > Who was it that had the Narcojet needles in her nipples?

> Somebody who watched Austin Powers too many times? :)

Wasn't it before Austin Powers?

How is it an Austin Powers reference?

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Message no. 38
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 06:22:29 -0700 (PDT)
--- Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2000 19:42:32 GMT "Phil Smith"
> <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> writes:
> <SNIP>
> > Hey everyone; I've just invented the next stage in
> evolution for eye
> > weapons
> > and oral guns. Sick assassins and street sammies
> wanting an edge
> > from all
> > over the world will flock to my cyberclinics of
> perversion!
>
> Who was it that had the Narcojet needles in her
> nipples?
>
> --
> D. Ghost

Fembots?


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Message no. 39
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 06:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
<snip>
> Or, as he gets a bit older and tireder (is that a
> word?), he whips it out
> and shoots big holes in his own foot because he
> didn't take his viagra.
> Or when he leaves in a hurry he grabs the wrong one
> and all the bad guys get
> is a bit worried as he thrusts his pelvis and yells
> "Bang Bang!", but
> nothing else happens.

ROTFLMAO!

This should be re titled "You know you need to stop
running the shadows when..."

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Message no. 40
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:10:56 +0200
According to Alfredo B Alves, at 7:38 on 12 May 00, the word on the street
was...

> > > Who was it that had the Narcojet needles in her nipples?
>
> > Somebody who watched Austin Powers too many times? :)
>
> Wasn't it before Austin Powers?
>
> How is it an Austin Powers reference?

The Fembots designed to kill Austin Powers use similar, shall we say,
"tactics," though not with a dart gun.

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Message no. 41
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:16:37 GMT
>From: "Yiannakos" <Yiannako@*******.edu>
>I knew that Rodriguez did them both, but I don't remember a crotch gun in
>desperado...?

I believe the line was "that has saved my life more than once".

Phil
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Message no. 42
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Suprathyroid or other bioware
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 03:10:06 -0500
On Fri, 12 May 2000 06:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Raveness Ravensbane
<ravenessravensbane@*****.com> writes:
>
> --- Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> > Who was it that had the Narcojet needles in her
> > nipples?

> Fembots?

This was a list.member (or rather her character). The character had very
large breasts (I think GG or HH or something obscene like that). They
were, IIRC, hollow and armored (either that or such a cybernetic
modification was proposed in the same thread.) and her nipples were
narcojet needles. I want to say it was Blaze, but I don't think that's
right ...

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