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Message no. 1
From: shirogr@*****.com (Shiro BsquLadat)
Subject: surgrery program planning question
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT)
a character of mine wanted to install a cultured
bioware and so I found the opportunity to incorporate
the surgery rules of Man and Machine in the game, so
far so good. But when we got to the program planning
stage we saw that the price for it was Mp x100 and for
that particular piece the price for the planning alone
was aproximately 72.000!!!!!!
This almost twice the price of the implant!!!!
So my question is whether this was intensional or it
is really Mpx10? If it was intensional I find it a
rideculously expensive and not realistic.
What say thou?

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Message no. 2
From: me@******.net (Hexren)
Subject: surgrery program planning question
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:29:01 +0200
SB> a character of mine wanted to install a cultured
SB> bioware and so I found the opportunity to incorporate
SB> the surgery rules of Man and Machine in the game, so
SB> far so good. But when we got to the program planning
SB> stage we saw that the price for it was Mp x100 and for
SB> that particular piece the price for the planning alone
SB> was aproximately 72.000!!!!!!
SB> This almost twice the price of the implant!!!!
SB> So my question is whether this was intensional or it
SB> is really Mpx10? If it was intensional I find it a
SB> rideculously expensive and not realistic.
SB> What say thou?

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I would say the Bioware is too inexpensive.
Surgery costs are high... and they are gettin higher with every piece
of tech incoporated in the process. Or so I think.

That would be a realistic view.

>From a gamefun point of view I woud prefer cheaper surgery.



Greetz
Hexren
Message no. 3
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: surgrery program planning question
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:55:39 +0200
According to Shiro BsquLadat, on Monday 15 September 2003 23:18 the word on
the street was...

> So my question is whether this was intensional or it
> is really Mpx10? If it was intensional I find it a
> rideculously expensive and not realistic.

Surgery is hugely expensive IRL, too, so from a realism standpoint, I don't
have a problem with the surgery costs in SR. (My players had, though -- I
remember one player who spent lots of cash on a synaptic accelerator and
then discovered -- when I told him -- that he also needed to have it
implanted, which was not part of the purchase price. He never did get the
money to spend on the operation, so basically all he ever did was make a
down payment on the bioware itself...)

Looking at it from a game POV, though, I have to agree that surgery is
usually too expensive, also because it's a "hidden" cost. The books do say
several times that surgery needs to be paid, but my experience is that
most players don't read these kinds of rules -- they skip right to the
rules and stats table for the 'ware they want. So it comes as a nasty
shock that they have to pay a _lot_ of money for surgery, too, and as a
result hardly ever actually get anything implanted during the game.

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