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Message no. 1
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:54:40 -0700
Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or what?

Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)


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Message no. 2
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:30:07 EDT
In a message dated 8/19/1999 3:56:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dvixen@****.com writes:

> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
what?
>
> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)

<K puts down his piece of paper, closes his email...and thinks>

Honestly...a series of shirts, perhaps a new one every year or so, with the
shirt being the "theme" of SR for that year (as it can be). For instance,
the upcoming "Year of the Comet" stuff. Have a samurai type with an assault
rifle held end-up, and in the background have a comet streaking at an angle
(his own form silhouetting the comets' tail). A statement like "..ready for
whatever comes down..." somewhere in chrome-flash Arial Font.

-K (who has been thinking as well)
Message no. 3
From: Sidhe tirnanog@****.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:45:09 -0700
|Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
|tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or what?
|
|Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
|list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
|unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)
|--
|Dvixen - dvixen@********.com - dvixen@****.com

hmm, i really like some of rick berry's work from tir n'a nog. good stuff there,
and any of brom's SR work, though the only one that comes to mind off-hand is
Prime Runners, though i know he has down more. oh yeah! and the elven chick with
the nose ring and low glasses, one of the chapter beginning pages in tir
tairngire.

-------------------------------
k. david hayes
tirnanog@****.com
rook_aerie@*******.com
-------------------------------
never underestimate the power
of stupid people in large herds
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Message no. 4
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:13:24 EDT
In a message dated 8/19/99 1:56:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dvixen@****.com
writes:

> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
what?
>
> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)

Hmm. Good question. I take it we are getting a LOOOONG headstart on next
years shirt? (Which may well be a good idea) I'd have to vote for either a
home brew piece of art to go with a slogan of "Shadowrun: Its not a Job, its
an ADVENTURE". Or, if you in fact INSIST on a more recognizable comercial
piece, I'd have to vote for the "Mr. J... And Friends" Picture in the color
plates between Pg 176-177 in BBB3
Message no. 5
From: Bull bull@*******.net
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:02:58 -0400 (EDT)
At 01:13 AM 8/20/99 EDT, Starrngr@***.com wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 8/19/99 1:56:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dvixen@****.com
>writes:
>
>> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
>> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
>what?
>>
>> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
>> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
>> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)
>
>Hmm. Good question. I take it we are getting a LOOOONG headstart on next
>years shirt? (Which may well be a good idea) I'd have to vote for either a
>home brew piece of art to go with a slogan of "Shadowrun: Its not a Job,
its
>an ADVENTURE". Or, if you in fact INSIST on a more recognizable comercial
>piece, I'd have to vote for the "Mr. J... And Friends" Picture in the color
>plates between Pg 176-177 in BBB3
>
I think I know why she posted it, and it's not for next years T-Shirt.

I could be wrong, but this may have something to do with something Mike
Mulvhill said at one of the Shadowrun Seminars. They are now licensed with
2 different T-Shirt companies, and are looking for ideas for pieces of
Artwork and stuff that people would be interested in buying.

As for using "recognizable" artwork for our List TShirt. We can't. Unless
we're interested in paying one of the artists a LOT of money, or one of
them steps forward and is nice enough to offer to let us use a piece for
free. And considering the way we do the shirts, it's not feasable to pay
for artwork.

Plus, being a ShadowRN List T-Shirt, they would also probably need to be a
member of the list, or it defeats the purpose, kinda sorta :]

However, to be honest, it may not be a bad idea to start kicking around
ideas for next years Shirts now... :]

Bull
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Message no. 6
From: Allen Versfeld moe@*******.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:15:28 +0200
I would have to go for a chromed Shadowrun 'S', big enough to fill the
front of the shirt. I don't like complicated images on my clothing :-)

--
Allen Versfeld
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Message no. 7
From: Christopher Pratt valen@*******.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:42:07 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: Dvixen <dvixen@****.com>
To: Shadowrun Discussion List <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 4:54 PM
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts


> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
what?
>
> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)

I don't have my SR2 book handy, but any of Bradstreet's art would be great,
like the picture at the begining of the combat rules chapter that shows a
bunch of runners (with many GUNS) leaning aginst a van during the calm
before a firefight...


"Windows 95: 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to
an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor,
written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition." -
Unknown
Christopher Pratt
valen@*******.com
Message no. 8
From: Roger J. An ricker@********.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:19:44 -0400 (EDT)
> >In a message dated 8/19/99 1:56:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dvixen@****.com
> >writes:
> >
> >> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
> >> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
> >what?
> >>
> >> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
> >> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
> >> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)
> >
> >Hmm. Good question. I take it we are getting a LOOOONG headstart on next
> >years shirt? (Which may well be a good idea) I'd have to vote for either a
> >home brew piece of art to go with a slogan of "Shadowrun: Its not a Job,
> its
> >an ADVENTURE". Or, if you in fact INSIST on a more recognizable comercial
> >piece, I'd have to vote for the "Mr. J... And Friends" Picture in the
color
> >plates between Pg 176-177 in BBB3
>
> However, to be honest, it may not be a bad idea to start kicking around
> ideas for next years Shirts now... :]

Can we hold another art contest?

We did that one year and people posted possible t-shirt designs on their
webpages. I'd love to draw another one!

Lates,

Roger J. An
(formerly known as Dust who drew 4 separate pictures)
Message no. 9
From: Mockingbird mockingbird@*********.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:15:49 -0500
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dvixen <dvixen@****.com>
> To: Shadowrun Discussion List <shadowrn@*********.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 4:54 PM
> Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
>
>
> > Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
> > tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel
or
> what?
> >
> > Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are
replying on
> > list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out
anything
> > unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)
>
> I don't have my SR2 book handy, but any of Bradstreet's art would be
great,
> like the picture at the begining of the combat rules chapter that
shows a
> bunch of runners (with many GUNS) leaning aginst a van during the calm
> before a firefight...
>
>

My vote would be for the coverart from the BBB, but then, I am a huge
Elmore fan.

Mockingbird
Message no. 10
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:37:23 -0700
At 01:54 PM 19/08/99 , Dvixen annoyed me by writing:
>Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
>tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or what?
>
>Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
>list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
>unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)

Please note: I am NOT talking about list shirts.

I simply want to know what image people would love to see on a shirt.

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Comments/Questions accepted, flames dropped into the abyss.
Message no. 11
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:50:46 -0500
>>Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for
>>a tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook,
>>novel or what?
>>
>>Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are
>>replying on list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but
>>*do* trim out anything unneccessary. Please leave in what I
>>have written here. ;)
>
>Please note: I am NOT talking about list shirts.
>
>I simply want to know what image people would love to see on a shirt.

Starting early, I see.... <g>

The cover to HARLEQUIN. The cover to PORTFOLIO OF A DRAGON.

Patrick
Message no. 12
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:34:36 EDT
In a message dated 8/20/1999 2:54:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
remo@***.net writes:

>
> >I simply want to know what image people would love to see on a shirt.
>
> Starting early, I see.... <g>
>
> The cover to HARLEQUIN. The cover to PORTFOLIO OF A DRAGON.

I know that PoaD was/is one of the considerations. Anyone got anything
better though? I mean, sure, the image is cool, but isn't there something
else?

-K (think of this guys...the cover for PoaD and on the back of the shirt,
the phrase "He Lives...": it's something Mike M. brought up at Gencon as
something he wouldn't mind seeing)
Message no. 13
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:48:10 EDT
In a message dated 8/20/99 12:38:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dvixen@****.com
writes:

> Please note: I am NOT talking about list shirts.
>
> I simply want to know what image people would love to see on a shirt.

AH. As a commercial T shirt done by Fasa? Like I said, the "Mr J, and
Friends" from SR3 (Located in the color prints between pgs 176&177) with the
logo "Shadowrun: Its not just a game, its a Lifestyle"
Message no. 14
From: Jalong1@***.com Jalong1@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:11:25 EDT
>> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
>> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
what?
>>
>> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
>> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
>> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)


>Honestly...a series of shirts, perhaps a new one every year or so, with the
>shirt being the "theme" of SR for that year (as it can be). For instance,
>the upcoming "Year of the Comet" stuff. Have a samurai type with an assault

>rifle held end-up, and in the background have a comet streaking at an angle
>(his own form silhouetting the comets' tail). A statement like "..ready for
>whatever comes down..." somewhere in chrome-flash Arial Font.

I like that. With what I envision of your description (kinda cinematic like)
it'd make a good shirt.

however

I've got a couple of odd thoughts

1) The first is a less than serious idea, but I'll toss it out here just to
get it outta my head;
a group of runners that look like they've been in a fight, all banged up,
bandaged, with perhaps one or two using crutches. The quote : "It's good to
be the GM" or "When the GM smiles, it's too late"

2) The other one is of a less tongue-in-cheek idea;
something of a cross between the of Corporate Download, and the old
Dreamchipper covers (well perhaps also the Western Dragon Boxed miniature
cover from Ral-Partha as also). A dragon flanked by some corporate goons
toting guns. Perhaps with a large window behind them showing the City of
Seattle at night. The Quote (if any) being the classic "Never Deal With a
Dragon"

That's all I can think of for now...

Jalong1
Message no. 15
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:34:45 -0500
> > The cover to HARLEQUIN. The cover to PORTFOLIO OF A DRAGON.
>
> I know that PoaD was/is one of the considerations. Anyone got
> anything better though? I mean, sure, the image is cool, but
> isn't there something else?

Someone might have something better, but not much that would be a better
seller to this particular T-shirt buyer.

XXL in black, please. <g>

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 16
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:54:03 +0200
According to Starrngr@***.com, at 19:48 on 20 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> > Please note: I am NOT talking about list shirts.
> >
> > I simply want to know what image people would love to see on a shirt.
>
> AH. As a commercial T shirt done by Fasa? Like I said, the "Mr J, and
> Friends" from SR3 (Located in the color prints between pgs 176&177) with the

> logo "Shadowrun: Its not just a game, its a Lifestyle"

"An insect shaman holds her mantid spirits at bay" by Dell Harris, in the
color section of the Grimoire II, would be my choice.

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Message no. 17
From: Rori Steel cullyn@*****.com.au
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:21:38 +0000 (GMT)
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:13:24 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 8/19/99 1:56:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dvixen@****.com
>writes:
>
>> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
>> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
>what?
>>
>> Replies can go either direct to me, or on list, but if you are replying on
>> list, please do not trim anyone's suggestions, but *do* trim out anything
>> unneccessary. Please leave in what I have written here. ;)
>
>Hmm. Good question. I take it we are getting a LOOOONG headstart on next
>years shirt? (Which may well be a good idea) I'd have to vote for either a
>home brew piece of art to go with a slogan of "Shadowrun: Its not a Job, its
>an ADVENTURE". Or, if you in fact INSIST on a more recognizable comercial
>piece, I'd have to vote for the "Mr. J... And Friends" Picture in the color
>plates between Pg 176-177 in BBB3

I HAVE to agree here... infact... i will put my order down now.. and
my Visa number... the Mr. J... and friends pic is brilliant.. and
belongs on the backs of the fans.

As to what Bull is suggesting... I hope they get out to .au under the
$40 mark... that would be nice!

Cullyn
cullyn@*****.com.au <-- maybe not for much longer though
Message no. 18
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 05:46:10 EDT
In a message dated 8/22/99 5:21:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
cullyn@*****.com.au writes:

> >> Ok. If everyone had to choose what Shadowrun image they wanted for a
> >> tshirt, what would you choose? Cover of your fave sourcebook, novel or
> >what?


Ooooo, how about a close-up on looking straight down a smoking gun pointed at
you, the hand just visible disappearing into the shadows. Underneath it:
MY COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.

:-)

Please don't sell it to angst-ridden teenagers or postal workers.




-Twist
Message no. 19
From: Tamino tamino@**********.wow.aust.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:00:47 +1000
At 12:54 21/08/99 +0200, Gurth wrote:
>> > Please note: I am NOT talking about list shirts.
>> >
>> > I simply want to know what image people would love to see on a shirt.
>>
>> AH. As a commercial T shirt done by Fasa? Like I said, the "Mr J, and
>> Friends" from SR3 (Located in the color prints between pgs 176&177) with
the
>> logo "Shadowrun: Its not just a game, its a Lifestyle"
>
>"An insect shaman holds her mantid spirits at bay" by Dell Harris, in the
>color section of the Grimoire II, would be my choice.

Oooh, I'd certainly buy one of those :) I love that plate...



-Tamino ...All too easy

"ISTI MIRANT STELLA" - Bayeux Tapestry
tamino@**********.wow.aust.com
Message no. 20
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:59:22 EDT
In a message dated 8/22/1999 4:47:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
Twist0059@***.com writes:

>
> Ooooo, how about a close-up on looking straight down a smoking gun pointed
> at
> you, the hand just visible disappearing into the shadows. Underneath it:

> MY COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.
>
> :-)
>
> Please don't sell it to angst-ridden teenagers or postal workers.

Sadly, it because of this last statement that *this* idea wouldn't be
entirely sellable, at least not the moment.

-K
Message no. 21
From: Wildfire Wildfire@*************.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:16:28 -0400
Ereskanti@***.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/22/1999 4:47:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> Twist0059@***.com writes:
>
> >
> > Ooooo, how about a close-up on looking straight down a smoking gun pointed
> > at
> > you, the hand just visible disappearing into the shadows. Underneath it:
>
> > MY COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Please don't sell it to angst-ridden teenagers or postal workers.
>
> Sadly, it because of this last statement that *this* idea wouldn't be
> entirely sellable, at least not the moment.
>
> -K

What is the, I guess, "allowed" art? I have a set (minus 5 @#$% cards!) of the
SR Trading Card game and there's a lot of good art there. For the t-shirt ideas,
is it only art that has appeared in the sourcebooks or any art that FASA has had
done that is related to Shadowrun? Do novel covers count? Personally, I have
very few sourcebooks and have never seen a novel, but just giving ideas to other
people.

BTW, I finally got to take a quick peek at the SR3 sourcebook, so I know the what
the Mr. Johnson and friends picture looks like now. XXL in black sounds good to
me, too. :-7
Message no. 22
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:53:59 EDT
In a message dated 8/23/99 11:01:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Ereskanti@***.com writes:

> >
> > Ooooo, how about a close-up on looking straight down a smoking gun
> pointed
> > at
> > you, the hand just visible disappearing into the shadows. Underneath
it:
>
>
> > MY COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Please don't sell it to angst-ridden teenagers or postal workers.
>
> Sadly, it because of this last statement that *this* idea wouldn't be
> entirely sellable, at least not the moment.
>
> -K
>


Gawd, it was a joke K.





-Twist
Message no. 23
From: Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:21:05 +0200
Why don't you take a look here,...and just pick anything for the art:

http://www2.bugsoft.hik.se/stefan/

Dennis

"Abashed the Devil stood,...and felt how awful Goodness is..."
Message no. 24
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: [Survey] - Tshirts
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:45:41 EDT
In a message dated 8/23/1999 10:55:16 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
Twist0059@***.com writes:

> > > Please don't sell it to angst-ridden teenagers or postal workers.
> >
> > Sadly, it because of this last statement that *this* idea wouldn't be
> > entirely sellable, at least not the moment.
> >
> > -K
> Gawd, it was a joke K.


I want you to know I didn't take *too* seriously myself. It was meant more
as a comment on the overall, IMO, sad state of affairs and paranoid
mentalities that are loose in the US today.

-K

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