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Message no. 1
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Taser Razor and Full Impact
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 12:41:35 -0700
Robert said:

>>I'm not going to pick apart this item because most everything I was going
>>to pick apart has already been picked.

>>But responding to Jason Carters post about the RazorTasor having to go
>.against full impact, I have a real problem with that.

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>>Tasers are just plain nasty, as I've talked about before. They are much
>>more nasty than ShadowRun gives them credit for. I also cannot see how
>>any type of armour can really protect you unless it is specifically made
>>of insulating material that keep you from grouding the charge through your
>>fragile body. (for example, rubber boots would very likely save you, if I
>>understand my several-year-old high school physics).

You missed my reasoning. The dart is a hand razor blade. The blade is curved
downward and goes to a point somewhere from 45-90 degrees downward. When you
shoot this at someone, the chance of it bouncing off body armor or of it not
getting the fully contact needed is much greater than that of a pointed tazor
dart. Hence armor would protect you better against a razor taser than a normal
tazor.

Does that make sense?

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker
Message no. 2
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Taser/Razor and Full Impact
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 11:20:48 -0700
Nightmare said:

>> Ok... thanks for all the input.

Your welcome.

>> First of all, Tyger - Jason was right on target about these things
>> costing no essence because you can't install them intoa bare hand.
>> The only firing controls are the same as would activate hand
>> razors, and since they would cost no essence, neither would these.

Of course I'm right :)

>> Next, the legality thing. I suppose these would be slightly
>> illegal, about as much as a cybergun would be. Of course, you can
>> get around it by having the correct permits and such bs.

It would be noticable more legal than a cybergun since they are lethal, but
it would still probably be illegal for the general populance. The police just
don't like the idea of implanted weapons.

>> On armor, I think these would be on the same level as a taser,
>> therefore going against 1/2 Impact rating. I think Jason either
>> misunderstood or I probably said it wrong in that I didn't mean
>> these to in totality be "hand razors", but shaped more
>> streamlined (I thought I said that before, but I'll check) and
>> therefore, more like "thin bullets". The 45-90 degree curve in
>> hand razors would not apply in this case. What I meant basically
>> was, these take up the space a hand razor would (or a little bit
>> more, for the spool and battery), are retractable like hand razors
>> (and must be extended before firing), and require the same wiring,
>> as far as the firing controls.

Ahhhhhh! I was under the impression that these where supposed to be fully
functional as hand razors. If all they are is a taser cybergun than I think
your going through too much trouble to explain them. Just say its a taser
that fires the needles through the tips of the fingers.

>> Hmmm... the reason I didn't want a smartlink, which I wrongly
>> worded with adaptor, is that since a regular gun hooking to a
>> smartlink goes to the palm of the hand (in the pix
>> anyway), and hooks to the gun there, there is no way to hook the
>> Razortasers into the smartlink, without extra wiring, which I
>> might put in as an added option.

A special type of smartlink for cyberguns would be a useful item.

>> The reason I put in the replacement door and retraction system in
>> was basically so you could buy the "cheap" package. Actually,
>> it's probably not much more expensive, but I'm not totally sure
>> what I put down. Without the bat. repl. door, you have to have a
>> cybernetic engineer of some sort (or the guy you had install the
>> little buggers) replace the battery. And without the retraction
>> system, you use a pair of scissors (since after the initial
>> blast, the wire is totally dead) to cut the wire and lose that
>> half of the setup.

No insult intended, but not putting things as important as a battery access
panel or at least the equipment needed to plug the thing in for recharging is
just plain stupid. No one would buy them if they knew they had to have surgery
to recharge the taser. And if the doc didn't tell they, they would waste him.
Same goes for the retrevial system, either it should be standard or there should
be a built-in disengaging system. To do any less would be slipshod cyberware
design.

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker

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