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Message no. 1
From: Steve Kenson <TalonMail@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Technobabel quote
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:41:38 EDT
K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM> writes:
>In a message dated 7/28/1998 10:32:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
>mc23@**********.COM writes:
>>>The beginning of Chapter 4 has the "In Ancient Times..." riddle,
ending
with
>>>"Mullins Chadwick", in the year 2043.
>>>
>>>Seemed a bit too nice IMO...
>>
>>I'm still not sure how I feel about that. B>[#
>>
>Meaning...
>
>Mullins Chadwick (MC)
>And 2043 as in 2-04-3 (at least the beginning and ending years matched).

Sorry, guys, but you're reading way too much into this one. The quote about
true names was inspired by stuff I did in Shadowrun long before I ever even
joined this list (along with material like Vernor Vinge's book "True Names").
Mullins Chadwick (21st century anthropologist and curmudeon) was created by
Paul Hume and has quotes attributed to him in the 1st edition Grimoire from
way back in 1990. The title of the book and the publication date are from
there, and have nothing whatsoever to do with MC23 or his .sig file.

Take care,
Steve K.
Message no. 2
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Technobabel quote
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:51:24 EDT
In a message dated 7/30/1998 9:45:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
TalonMail@***.COM writes:

> Sorry, guys, but you're reading way too much into this one. The quote about
> true names was inspired by stuff I did in Shadowrun long before I ever even
> joined this list (along with material like Vernor Vinge's book "True
Names").
>
> Mullins Chadwick (21st century anthropologist and curmudeon) was created by
> Paul Hume and has quotes attributed to him in the 1st edition Grimoire from
> way back in 1990. The title of the book and the publication date are from
> there, and have nothing whatsoever to do with MC23 or his .sig file.
>
> Take care,
> Steve K.

Ah Steve, you take the fun out of everything :P See ya soon!!! ;)

-K
Message no. 3
From: AlSeyMer <AdSM@******.BE>
Subject: Re: Technobabel quote
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:27:16 +0200
Steve Kenson wrote:
>(snip)
> Mullins Chadwick (21st century anthropologist and curmudeon) was created by
> Paul Hume and has quotes attributed to him in the 1st edition Grimoire from
> way back in 1990. The title of the book and the publication date are from
> there, and have nothing whatsoever to do with MC23 or his .sig file.
> (snip)

Mullins Chadwick? Isn't he a main character in one of the Brunner's
pre-cyberpunk book (end of 60's beginning 70's)? Also an anthropologist
if i remember well, who once decided he had had enough of humanity and
decided to live in filth. As it wasn't a solution, he decided to return
to his fellow humans to be permanently drunk, or something like that :-)
Am i wrong?

AlSeyMer
Message no. 4
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: Technobabel quote
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:15:51 -0700
At 18:27 7/30/98 +0200, AlSeyMer wrote:
>Steve Kenson wrote:
>>(snip)
>> Mullins Chadwick (21st century anthropologist and curmudeon) was created by
>> Paul Hume and has quotes attributed to him in the 1st edition Grimoire from
>> way back in 1990. The title of the book and the publication date are from
>> there, and have nothing whatsoever to do with MC23 or his .sig file.
>> (snip)

>Mullins Chadwick? Isn't he a main character in one of the Brunner's
>pre-cyberpunk book (end of 60's beginning 70's)? Also an anthropologist
>if i remember well, who once decided he had had enough of humanity and
>decided to live in filth. As it wasn't a solution, he decided to return
>to his fellow humans to be permanently drunk, or something like that :-)
>Am i wrong?

That's Chad Mulligan, from John Brunner's _Stand on Zanzibar_,
author of the fictional _Hipcrime Vocab_. I figured that Mullins
Chadwick was a fairly obvious homage to Chad Mulligan...
and yes, in the book he spent quite some time living off his
royalty checks as a drunken street bum, talking to other street bums
becuase they were real people.

--
%% Max Rible %%% max@********.com %%% http://www.amurgsval.org/~slothman/ %%
%% "Ham is good... Glowing *tattooed* ham is *bad*!" - the Tick %%
Message no. 5
From: AlSeyMer <AdSM@******.BE>
Subject: Re: Technobabel quote
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:22:22 +0200
Max Rible wrote:
> (snip)
> >Am i wrong?
> That's Chad Mulligan, from John Brunner's _Stand on Zanzibar_,
> author of the fictional _Hipcrime Vocab_. I figured that Mullins
> Chadwick was a fairly obvious homage to Chad Mulligan...
> and yes, in the book he spent quite some time living off his
> royalty checks as a drunken street bum, talking to other street bums
> becuase they were real people.
> %% Max Rible %%% max@********.com %%%
>(snip sig)

Thanks :-)

AlSeyMer
Message no. 6
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Technobabel quote
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:24:06 -0400
At 10:41 AM 7/30/98 EDT, you wrote:

>Sorry, guys, but you're reading way too much into this one.

Don't you just hate it when we do that? ;-)

>The quote about
>true names was inspired by stuff I did in Shadowrun long before I ever even
>joined this list (along with material like Vernor Vinge's book "True
Names").
>Mullins Chadwick (21st century anthropologist and curmudeon) was created by
>Paul Hume and has quotes attributed to him in the 1st edition Grimoire from
>way back in 1990. The title of the book and the publication date are from
>there, and have nothing whatsoever to do with MC23 or his .sig file.

Yup, the first Grimmy had Mullins Chadwick, back when SR books started
every chapter with a new quote. I miss that actually, gave an extra dash
of BAM! (as chef Emeril Lagasse would say) to the books.

Didn't know he was a curmudgeon though; I somehow thought of him as some
rather bookish ivory tower type with large glasses. I guess not. ;-)

Erik J.

Who never realized someone name "Laetitia" could be so damn jaw-dropping
beautiful...(Rolling Stone subscribers know what I mean!)

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