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Message no. 1
From: The Powerhouse <P.C.Steele@*********.AC.UK>
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 14:11:47 GMT
Thanksgiving,

Could someone enlighten us non-Americans as to what it is exactly. I know
it's some sort of national holiday where everyone gets together and has a
family meal but is there any other significance, or is it just an excuse to
have a holiday ?

Phill.
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Land of the mad Geordies | The Powerhouse \_/
Message no. 2
From: Dylan Northrup <northrup@*****.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:02:37 -0500
On Thu, 18 Nov 1993, The Powerhouse wrote:

> Thanksgiving,
>
> Could someone enlighten us non-Americans as to what it is exactly. I know
> it's some sort of national holiday where everyone gets together and has a
> family meal but is there any other significance, or is it just an excuse to
> have a holiday ?

The original idea behind this festive holiday was to give thanks for what
we have in life. The origin of said holiday was in the
seventeenth-century:

THe pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock. They proceeded to set up their
little towns and villages. however, they were unable to cultivate any
crops in a quantity that would feed all the inhabitants of said towns and
villages. They then made friends with the Native American tribes who
istructed them that they were silly white people who were trying to grow
European crops in the wrong climate and in the wrong soil. They then
showed the Pilgrims what and where to plant crops so that they could
survive. The Pilgrims, after their first harvest, had so much food that
they decided to throw a party and invited the Natives in for the party.
After they survived for a year the Pilgrims sent messages back to Europe
that this place was inhabitable and to send over sever million people to
enable them to force the natives from their land and institute a
regime that promotes lower-class women to have babies so that they may get
benifits from an improperly instituted welfare program and encourages teens
to emulate movies and tv programs where the characters have little
intelligence as evidenced by their actions in the movie or program (i.e.
lying in the street while cars drive by; setting fire to cats). This is
the origin of Thanksgiving.

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Message no. 3
From: John Fox <johnf@*****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 14:56:18 -0600
On Thu, 18 Nov 1993, The Powerhouse wrote:

> Thanksgiving,
>
> Could someone enlighten us non-Americans as to what it is exactly. I know
> it's some sort of national holiday where everyone gets together and has a
> family meal but is there any other significance, or is it just an excuse to
> have a holiday ?
> --
> Phillip Steele - Email address P.C.Steele@***.ac.uk | An Uzi a day keeps the

Thanksgiving was first celebrated by the Pilgrims. The Pilgrims were a
group of religious dissenters who were being persecuted by the EVIL,
imperialistic British. Apparentl the British were too Catholic for the
Pilgrims. The worst oppression was on the orders of the vile Lord Steele
of Newcastle Upon Tyne. :-)

So the Pilgrims loaded up the boat and set sail for Virginia.
Unfortunately, such concepts as "navigation" eluded the Pilgrims, who
ended up landing in Massachussets instead. Not to be stopped, the Pilgrims
saw "Plymouth Rock" and decided to set up shop. P{erhaps the only
important thing about all this was that the group established one of the
first democratic constitutions, called the Mayflower Compact, after the
ship they sailed over in.

My paternal step-grandfathe's first American ancestor was the ship's
doctor.

Meanwhile, his medical skills didn't amount to much because almost all the
Pilgrims died of hunger, cold, or disease. However, the local Indians
showed up and saved everyone else. They taught the Pilgrims to grow food.
So the Pilgrims had a feast, called Thanksgiving, to celebrate their
friendship with the Indians. At least that is the traditional version. The
real one probably has more conflict with the Indians and less harmony.

The final rub for the Pilgrims was that two centuries later millions of
Irishmen showed up in Massachusetts, bringing with them all the Pilgrims
tried to escape. But they were happy for a while. ;-)

John Fox
johnf@*****.edu
Message no. 4
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 16:55:44 -0500
> > Could someone enlighten us non-Americans as to what it is exactly. I know
> > it's some sort of national holiday where everyone gets together and has a
> > family meal but is there any other significance,

WELL...oops well phillip for those of us who like to share our good
fortune with those of less fortune it is also a time to share the wealth
so to speak...for instance personally i always try to invite several of
the single airmen [i'm in the u.s. air force] over and give them some
good old home cooking with an huge 20lb turkey raosted a golden crispy
brown that is so moist..well..let's just say it's not dry by any
standards...and the turkey is stuffed with a cornbread dressing with
maybe mushrooms thrown in for good measure. then there is the real mashed
potatos with butter mixed through with gibblet gravy to put on top of it all
[i'm starting to get hungry] and candied yams with marshmellows toasted on top, and maybe
some green beans
and corn on the cob. then there is always some cranberry sauce. oh yea i
almost forgot there is usually a ham around there somewhere too. and then
there is the home baked breads [not a big deal in alot of countries but
here we have a tendancy to get too caught up in what's going on around us
to take the time]. and the pumpkin pie, and pecan pie, some people like
mincemeat pie [not me]. your basic feast all in all. a good time to get
together with friends and family.
>
> Meanwhile, his medical skills didn't amount to much because almost all the
> Pilgrims died of hunger, cold, or disease. However, the local Indians
> showed up and saved everyone else. They taught the Pilgrims to grow food.

so the pilgrims repaid them by stealing the natives food and supplies and
generally being a lot less than good neighbors

The
> real one probably has more conflict with the Indians and less harmony.

well just a little

sorry i went on there but it has been a while since the last time i was
able to talk to you guys and thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. i
haven't been on in such a while because my server got changed to a sparc
10 [that is a good thing] the result was that i was kicked off this list
[that is a bad thing] and with kids in sports well... anyway i'm back.
so what is the latest topic of discussion here in the shadows?
------------------------GRANITE
Message no. 5
From: Dylan Northrup <northrup@*****.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 18:39:59 -0500
On Thu, 18 Nov 1993, C. Paul Douglas wrote:

> >
> > Meanwhile, his medical skills didn't amount to much because almost all the
> > Pilgrims died of hunger, cold, or disease. However, the local Indians
> > showed up and saved everyone else. They taught the Pilgrims to grow food.
>
> so the pilgrims repaid them by stealing the natives food and supplies and
> generally being a lot less than good neighbors

And when the natives' food and supplies weren't enough they also took
their land and gave the natives diseases that the natives had no immunity
against. Not very neighbourly, eh?

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Message no. 6
From: The Reverend <mdb0213@******.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 21:43:36 -0600
]enable them to force the natives from their land and institute a
]regime that promotes lower-class women to have babies so that they may get
]benifits from an improperly instituted welfare program and encourages teens
]to emulate movies and tv programs where the characters have little
]intelligence as evidenced by their actions in the movie or program (i.e.

We're not bitter at all, are we Doc?

---
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Message no. 7
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 04:01:24 -0600
>Apparently the British were too Catholic

Actually, they wer too "Church of England", which, as I understand it, is
rather similar to Catholicism, except that the king is the head of the
church rather than the pope. See, Henry VIII wanted a second (or third)
divorce which the pope wouldn't grant so he said "hey, I'm a king. I'll
just make myself the head of the church in England and grant myself a
divorce". This caused no end of grief for years to come. I'm sure the
evil descendant of Newcastel can enlighten us further.

>So the Pilgrims loaded up the boat and set sail for Virginia.

Which wasn't Virginia at the time, and I don't think they landed there first.
Unless you're thinking of Jamestown, which eventually failed (there are a lot
of with foundation blocks there now. Williamsburgh is more exciting).

>Unfortunately, such concepts as "navigation" eluded the Pilgrims, who

I thought they subcontracted the actual sailing part out to real sailors.

>ended up landing in Massachussets instead. Not to be stopped, the Pilgrims
>saw "Plymouth Rock" and decided to set up shop. Perhaps the only

Hey, it beats "Buick Rock" :)

>important thing about all this was that the group established one of the
>first democratic constitutions, called the Mayflower Compact, after the
>ship they sailed over in.

Never mind the Magna Charta. Or the early Greek democracies (which were
more inclusive than any other democracy, including the initial American
model until ownership of land was removed as a prerequisite for voting).

>My paternal step-grandfathe's first American ancestor was the ship's
>doctor.



>Meanwhile, his medical skills didn't amount to much because almost all the
>Pilgrims died of hunger, cold, or disease. However, the local Indians

Don't feel guilty about it. I'm sure no one holds you responsible. If
you get a court order from some other Mayflower descendant, though, be
sure to get a good lawyer.

>showed up and saved everyone else. They taught the Pilgrims to grow food.

Kinda like Missionaries.

>So the Pilgrims had a feast, called Thanksgiving, to celebrate their
>friendship with the Indians. At least that is the traditional version. The
>real one probably has more conflict with the Indians and less harmony.

It probaly had less melody, as well. Instruments were hard to come by back then.


J Roberson
Message no. 8
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 15:26:32 -0500
On Thu, 18 Nov 1993, Dylan Northrup wrote:

> > so the pilgrims repaid them by stealing the natives food and supplies and
> > generally being a lot less than good neighbors
>
> And when the natives' food and supplies weren't enough they also took
> their land and gave the natives diseases that the natives had no immunity
> against.

That was the start..people back then deffinately had a different outlook

Not very neighbourly, eh?
>
no that isn't what i would have called it-however the natives were
extremely tollerant [unlike our elven friends] if you ask me
-----------------------GRANITE
Message no. 9
From: Craig S Dohmen <dohmen@*******.cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 17:42:19 -0500
On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Gurth wrote:

> Just for us savages, when _is_ Thanksgiving exactly? 14 February? 31
> Octobter? 25 December? 30 April? 5 May? :)

This year it's November 23. It's always the third Thursday of November,
I believe.

--Craig
Message no. 10
From: Tim Serpas <wretch@**.com>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 14:49:08 -0600 (CST)
Another blow for American education...

On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Craig S Dohmen wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Gurth wrote:
> > Just for us savages, when _is_ Thanksgiving exactly? 14 February? 31
> > Octobter? 25 December? 30 April? 5 May? :)
> This year it's November 23. It's always the third Thursday of November,
> I believe.

Second-to-last Thursday of November.

ObSR: Does anyone see a good use for Machine pistols?

Peace, Love and Artichokes
Tim Serpas
Cog
Win95 SE
BS Physics
II Dan Taekwon-do
wretch@**.com
Message no. 11
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 15:33:02 -0600 (CST)
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On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Tim Serpas wrote:

> ObSR: Does anyone see a good use for Machine pistols?

Shoot things with them.

I mean, that is what they are designed for. . .

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Message no. 12
From: "k.lin-student-civ-ghostgum-93087284" <kwlin@***.itd.uts.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:11:01 +1100 (EST)
On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Tim Serpas wrote:

> Another blow for American education...
>
> On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Craig S Dohmen wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Gurth wrote:
> > > Just for us savages, when _is_ Thanksgiving exactly? 14 February? 31
> > > Octobter? 25 December? 30 April? 5 May? :)
> > This year it's November 23. It's always the third Thursday of November,
> > I believe.
>
> Second-to-last Thursday of November.

Thanks. Hey, they don't teach us American history here DownUnder.

"Australia, don't become American..." - title of popular Australian song
(the artist's name eludes me)

> ObSR: Does anyone see a good use for Machine pistols?

Reasonably concealability, for those uptown meetings when heavy armour &
a Panther AssCan just don't cut it (ie. visit by Lone Star Tactical
Response Team supported by Mr Yellowjacket). Adequate range, in most
firefights (urban/jungle situations) ranges (from shooter to target) are
usually below 20 metres. Shock value, PCs/NPCs get a nasty suprise (and
usually decide to bug out) when that guy's/gal's funny looking heavy pistol
starts hosing them on full auto.

Personally I prefer an SMG for hosing, a heavy pistol for when
delicate shot placememt is important, and a shotgun for shock value.

Fade to the Black...

Kin
Message no. 13
From: StaintonC@***.com
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 23:35:48 -0500
In a message dated 95-11-19 16:41:14 EST, you write:

>Shoot things with them.
>
>

i SECOND THAT
Message no. 14
From: Tim Serpas <wretch@**.com>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 02:19:44 -0600 (CST)
On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
> > ObSR: Does anyone see a good use for Machine pistols?
>
> Shoot things with them.

Whoa! I've been trying to drive nails with 'em! :)

Wretch
Message no. 15
From: Charles McKenzie <kilroy@**.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:23:42 -0600 (CST)
> On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
> > > ObSR: Does anyone see a good use for Machine pistols?
> > Shoot things with them.
> Whoa! I've been trying to drive nails with 'em! :)
> Wretch

No no no...you're thinking of screwdrivers. Panther cannons are for
nailing things.

Chuck McKenzie kilroy@***.cs.wisc.edu
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Message no. 16
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:57:42 +0100
Tim Serpas said on19 Nov 95...

> ObSR: Does anyone see a good use for Machine pistols?

Definitely useful for keeping vampires down *listmembers scream "Oh NO! Not
_that_ story again!* :)

Anyway, in my experience BF-capable light pistols are actually really nice
weapons, especially loaded with explosives or flechettes or some other
non-regular ammo.

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Message no. 17
From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:55:12 -0500
At 08:37 AM 11/26/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Gosh... So you're saying that you can actually go into a shop without
>having annoying holiday music pumped into your ears, you don't have to
>face the embarassment of watching the city council putting up *both*
>christmas lights (Yes, the capital city I live in has only got TWO
>christmassy display light things... oh, the shame of it all...), you
>don't get accosted by alcoholic santa's, you don't have to spend a
>fortune on presents?

Actually, you still do, but that's because the retail indistry has already
geared up for Thanksgiving... <shrug>

>I owe all you North American folk an apology... If you're able to come
>up with such a holiday, then I've had the wrong impression about you all
>this time!

<laugh> I get the feeling that everyone outside the US gets the same
impression of us (through TV and stereotypes) that we get of, oh,
say... Australia through Crocodile Dundee, Foster's Beer Commericals,
Outback Steakhouses, and Steve Erwin -- Crocodile Hunter ;]

Bull
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Message no. 18
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:46:46 -0500
Well, I hate holidays, but someone has to be the first to say it. Happy
Thanksgiving, everyone. I hope you enjoy the day, and that you and your
friends and family are well.

Joy for the season, to all of you.

-ae

____________________________
Age old hatred never takes a holiday.
Message no. 19
From: Anders Swenson anders@**********.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:15:13 -0800
----- Original Message -----
From: abortion_engine <abortion_engine@*******.com>
To: Shadowrun Newslist <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 6:46 AM
Subject: Thanksgiving


> Well, I hate holidays, but someone has to be the first to say it. Happy
> Thanksgiving, everyone. I hope you enjoy the day, and that you and your
> friends and family are well.
>
> Joy for the season, to all of you.
>
> -ae
>
> ____________________________
> Age old hatred never takes a holiday.

Yes, holidays are nice, but I miss gaming because of them. 8)>
Happy Feast, Happy M&M --Anders
Message no. 20
From: Bruce iti03678@****.co.za
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:58:25 +0200
-----Original Message-----
From: abortion_engine <abortion_engine@*******.com>
To: Shadowrun Newslist <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: 24 November 1999 04:51
Subject: Thanksgiving


>Well, I hate holidays, but someone has to be the first to say it.
Happy
>Thanksgiving, everyone. I hope you enjoy the day, and that you and
your
>friends and family are well.
>
>Joy for the season, to all of you.
>
>-ae

Thanksgiving? Whats that about? And why so close to Christmas?

- -
Bruce <phantasm@****.co.za>

Give me reasons why the sun has to shine
why they murdered the noisy mime
tell me the answers to the puzzles of Poe
and sing me to sleep on the rivers of woe
Message no. 21
From: Allen Versfeld moe@*******.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:44:31 +0200
Bruce wrote:
>
>
> Thanksgiving? Whats that about? And why so close to Christmas?
>

It's an american thing, bruce. I used to watch american TV, so I think
I've got it figured out. I'm sure turkey is onvolved, and people in
funny black hats. Something about pilgrims being grateful for getting
tobacco from the natives in exchange for beads and syphillis ;-)

It seems to be a big deal.


--
Allen Versfeld (with tongue in historically inaccurate cheek as always)
moe@*******.com

QVANTI CANICVLA ILLA IN FENESTRA
Message no. 22
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:51:39 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Allen Versfeld."
] > Thanksgiving? Whats that about? And why so close to Christmas?
] >
]
] It's an american thing, bruce. I used to watch american TV, so I think
] I've got it figured out. I'm sure turkey is onvolved, and people in
] funny black hats. Something about pilgrims being grateful for getting
] tobacco from the natives in exchange for beads and syphillis ;-)
]
] It seems to be a big deal.

Thanksgiving has the pleasant distinction of being one of the least
commercialized holidays around (at least where I live). It's a happy
time where people eat turkey or roast beef and are supposed to be
thankful for what they have. It's indeed quite close to Christmas,
where people eat turkey or roast beef and are supposed to be thankful
for what they just unwrapped.
Also, Canadians celebrate it earlier than Americans (or they
celebrate it later than us, whatever floats your boat).

-Boondocker
Message no. 23
From: Allen Versfeld moe@*******.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:37:58 +0200
Scott W wrote:
>
> "And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Allen Versfeld."
> ] > Thanksgiving? Whats that about? And why so close to Christmas?
> ] >
> ]
> ] It's an american thing, bruce. I used to watch american TV, so I think
> ] I've got it figured out. I'm sure turkey is onvolved, and people in
> ] funny black hats. Something about pilgrims being grateful for getting
> ] tobacco from the natives in exchange for beads and syphillis ;-)
> ]
> ] It seems to be a big deal.
>
> Thanksgiving has the pleasant distinction of being one of the least
> commercialized holidays around (at least where I live). It's a happy
> time where people eat turkey or roast beef and are supposed to be
> thankful for what they have. It's indeed quite close to Christmas,
> where people eat turkey or roast beef and are supposed to be thankful
> for what they just unwrapped.
> Also, Canadians celebrate it earlier than Americans (or they
> celebrate it later than us, whatever floats your boat).
>

Gosh... So you're saying that you can actually go into a shop without
having annoying holiday music pumped into your ears, you don't have to
face the embarassment of watching the city council putting up *both*
christmas lights (Yes, the capital city I live in has only got TWO
christmassy display light things... oh, the shame of it all...), you
don't get accosted by alcoholic santa's, you don't have to spend a
fortune on presents?

I owe all you North American folk an apology... If you're able to come
up with such a holiday, then I've had the wrong impression about you all
this time!

Now, how do you go about entering that green-card lottery?
--
Allen Versfeld
moe@*******.com

QVANTI CANICVLA ILLA IN FENESTRA
Message no. 24
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:44:14 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Allen Versfeld."
] > Thanksgiving has the pleasant distinction of being one of the least
] > commercialized holidays around (at least where I live). It's a happy
] > time where people eat turkey or roast beef and are supposed to be
] > thankful for what they have. It's indeed quite close to Christmas,
] > where people eat turkey or roast beef and are supposed to be thankful
] > for what they just unwrapped.
] > Also, Canadians celebrate it earlier than Americans (or they
] > celebrate it later than us, whatever floats your boat).
] >
]
] Gosh... So you're saying that you can actually go into a shop without
] having annoying holiday music pumped into your ears, you don't have to
] face the embarassment of watching the city council putting up *both*
] christmas lights (Yes, the capital city I live in has only got TWO
] christmassy display light things... oh, the shame of it all...), you
] don't get accosted by alcoholic santa's, you don't have to spend a
] fortune on presents?

Well...yeah...at least until Christmas.

] I owe all you North American folk an apology... If you're able to come
] up with such a holiday, then I've had the wrong impression about you all
] this time!

I'm glad your eyes have been opened.

I'm not sure about the States, but up here in the Great White North,
it seems as if the only reason we have Thanksgiving in October is so
that we can put up the Christmas decorations earlier...it's mad...the
witches and ghosts of Halloween come down, and the wreaths and
mechanical Santas spring up (mechanical Santas...aren't they the _true_
meaning of Christmas?).

-Boondocker
Message no. 25
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:34:17 -0600
: I'm not sure about the States, but up here in the Great White North,
:it seems as if the only reason we have Thanksgiving in October is so
:that we can put up the Christmas decorations earlier...

Thanksgiving was founded as a harvest feast, and (I'd assume) harvests
happen sooner in the north.
Um, to bring this on topic- so don't forget to share some turkey with
you favorite free field spirit!

Mongoose
Message no. 26
From: Grim Shear grim_shear@*******.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:27:24 CST
>Gosh... So you're saying that you can actually go into a shop without
>having annoying holiday music pumped into your ears, you
>don't have to face the embarassment of watching the city council
>putting up *both* christmas lights (Yes, the capital city I live in
>has only got TWO christmassy display light things... oh, the shame
>of it all...), you don't get accosted by alcoholic santa's, you don't
>have to spend a fortune on presents?
>I owe all you North American folk an apology... If you're able to
>come up with such a holiday, then I've had the wrong impression about
>you all this time!
>Allen Versfeld

Actually, we still do the whole "Its Christmas" thing in Canada,
complete with holiday music and such, but we start at (or there abouts) the
beginning of December, as opposed to the American "Thanksgiving is over,
lets get our Christmas presents".

Grim Shear
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Message no. 27
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:44:23 -0800 (PST)
<Snippola(TM)>
> <laugh> I get the feeling that everyone outside the
US gets the same impression of us (through TV and
stereotypes) that we get of, oh, say... Australia
through Crocodile Dundee, Foster's Beer Commericals,
Outback Steakhouses, and Steve Erwin -- Crocodile
Hunter ;]
> Bull

Okay, Bull, I'm giving you one warning. Just one.

DON'T say that name again...

*Doc' goes out and has titanium bonelacing
installed...just for Bull...*

====Doc'
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S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 28
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:05:26 -0800
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:44:23 -0800 (PST) Rand
Ratinac?<docwagon101@*****.com> writes:
> <Snippola(TM)>
> > <laugh> I get the feeling that everyone outside the
> US gets the same impression of us (through TV and
> stereotypes) that we get of, oh, say... Australia
> through Crocodile Dundee, Foster's Beer Commericals,
> Outback Steakhouses, and Steve Erwin -- Crocodile
> Hunter ;]
> > Bull

> Okay, Bull, I'm giving you one warning. Just one.
>
> DON'T say that name again...
>
> *Doc' goes out and has titanium bonelacing
> installed...just for Bull...*

Which name? Crocodile Dundee, Foster's (Austrailian fer beer), or Steve
Erwin?

;)

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Message no. 29
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:58:23 -0800 (PST)
> > Okay, Bull, I'm giving you one warning. Just one.
> >
> > DON'T say that name again...
> >
> > *Doc' goes out and has titanium bonelacing
installed...just for Bull...*
>
> Which name? Crocodile Dundee, Foster's (Austrailian
fer beer), or Steve Erwin?
> D. Ghost

The S. E. name. This is your first and last warning,
smartass.

*Doc' prepares to get physical...

Physical! I wanna get physical! Let me hear your body
talk!

Doc' wonders where that came from...*

====Doc'
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S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 30
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:04:47 +0100
According to Rand Ratinac, at 20:44 on 28 Nov 99, the word on the street
was...

> *Doc' goes out and has titanium bonelacing
> installed...just for Bull...*

I don't know if that'll be sufficient... Bull is fairly large, you know :)

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Message no. 31
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:53:53 EST
In a message dated 11/29/1999 1:59:16 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> *Doc' prepares to get physical...
> Physical! I wanna get physical! Let me hear your body
> talk!
> Doc' wonders where that came from...*

From that closeted portion of your life Doc' ... SEE EVERYBODY (*points at
Doc', caught doing some weird body-aerobics in white, pastel gray and pink
workout gear.. *)

-K
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Message no. 32
From: Spike spike1@*******.co.uk
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:20:40 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, didst Rand Ratinac babble thusly:
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> > > Okay, Bull, I'm giving you one warning. Just one.
> > >
> > > DON'T say that name again...
> > >
> > > *Doc' goes out and has titanium bonelacing
> installed...just for Bull...*
> >
> > Which name? Crocodile Dundee, Foster's (Austrailian
> fer beer), or Steve Erwin?
> > D. Ghost
>
> The S. E. name. This is your first and last warning,
> smartass.

Who's Steve Irwin?
<dives for Gurths stairs, peeking out in case the question's answered)

> *Doc' prepares to get physical...
>
> Physical! I wanna get physical! Let me hear your body
> talk!

ICK!

> Doc' wonders where that came from...*

Bolivia Neutron Bomb?
:)
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Message no. 33
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:34:22 -0800 (PST)
> > > Which name? Crocodile Dundee, Foster's
Austrailian fer beer), or Steve Erwin?
> > > D. Ghost
> >
> > The S. E. name. This is your first and last
warning, smartass.
>
> Who's Steve Irwin?
> <dives for Gurths stairs, peeking out in case the
question's answered)
>
> > *Doc' prepares to get physical...
> >
> > Physical! I wanna get physical! Let me hear your
body talk!
>
> ICK!
>
> > Doc' wonders where that came from...*
>
> Bolivia Neutron Bomb?
> :)
> | spike1@****.freenet.co.uk

*Doc' staggers towards Spike, moaning in a zombie-like
fashion. "Pain...hurt...must...cause...pain..."*

====Doc'
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S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 34
From: Spike spike1@*******.co.uk
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:30:09 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, didst Rand Ratinac babble thusly:
> > Who's Steve Irwin? <dives for Gurths stairs, peeking out in case the
> > question's answered)
> >

Still don't know who Steve Irwin is....

> > > Doc' wonders where that came from...*
> >
> > Bolivia Neutron Bomb?
> > :)
> > | spike1@****.freenet.co.uk
>
> *Doc' staggers towards Spike, moaning in a zombie-like
> fashion. "Pain...hurt...must...cause...pain..."*

EEEEP!
<Spike slams and locks the door to Gurths stairs>

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Message no. 35
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:05:45 EST
In a message dated 11/28/1999 10:59:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> *Doc' prepares to get physical...
>
> Physical! I wanna get physical! Let me hear your body
> talk!
>
> Doc' wonders where that came from...*

I fear Rabid has been Exposed to too much Howlin Mad, Doc...

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Message no. 36
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:10:36 -0800 (PST)
> > *Doc' prepares to get physical...
> > Physical! I wanna get physical! Let me hear your
body talk!
> > Doc' wonders where that came from...*
>
> From that closeted portion of your life Doc' ... SEE
EVERYBODY (*points at Doc', caught doing some weird
body-aerobics in white, pastel gray and pink workout
gear.. *)
> -K

Dammit, K, I wear black shorts and a black, blue or
white t-shirt when I do aerobics!

None of this pansy pink stuff!

Yet!

*Doc' ponders..."Of course, most of the shirts I wear
have Warner Bros. characters on them..."*

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Message no. 37
From: Jett zmjett@*********.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:29:19 -0500
dghost@****.com wrote:

> Foster's (Austrailian fer beer)

Mmm. Foster's. Australian for warm Kentucky stud-horse piss. Not that I know
what warm Kentucky stud-horse piss tastes like...

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Message no. 38
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:25:15 -0800
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:29:19 -0500 Jett <zmjett@*********.com> writes:
> dghost@****.com wrote:
> > Foster's (Austrailian fer beer)

> Mmm. Foster's. Australian for warm Kentucky stud-horse piss. Not that I
know
> what warm Kentucky stud-horse piss tastes like...

You mean that wasn't Lemonade??? P-thah P-thah ... Mental Note: Don't
order "what she's having" around Jett. ;)

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Message no. 39
From: Mark A Shieh SHODAN+@***.EDU
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:15:13 -0500 (EST)
Jett <zmjett@*********.com> writes:
> dghost@****.com wrote:
>
> > Foster's (Austrailian fer beer)
>
> Mmm. Foster's. Australian for warm Kentucky stud-horse piss. Not that I know
> what warm Kentucky stud-horse piss tastes like...

Mmm, Australian for Budweiser. There's a reason they have to
market it to Americans if they want to sell any...

Mark
Message no. 40
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: Thanksgiving
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:22:05 -0500
> > > Foster's (Austrailian fer beer)
> >
> > Mmm. Foster's. Australian for warm Kentucky stud-horse piss. Not that I
know
> > what warm Kentucky stud-horse piss tastes like...
>
> Mmm, Australian for Budweiser. There's a reason they have to
> market it to Americans if they want to sell any...

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