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Message no. 1
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Thas's a good lookin' trog! (Was Re: Artwork in SR3)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:41:28 -0400
>>You know, I didn't like this one especially. I see trolls as being
>>misshapen humans with horns and fangs, not monstrous animals, and this
>>seemed to totally scream the opposite to me. When I was complaining
>>about the art work to my wife, this was the first one I pointed out
>>that irked me.
>
>
>I'd have to agree. I liked the old concept of trolls. On a different note
>however, I LOVED the weapon specialist. I personally thought this was one
of
>the best SR pics.

I have disagree with the notion that the picture of the Sprawl Ganger is a
"new concept" for troll images.
Take a look at Laubenstein's trolls. Most of them are so pock-marked and
deformed that they really don't resemble humans at all anymore.
Furthermore, the entire description of trolls in the rulebook implies a wide
range of appearance for the metatype. Just because this particular troll
looks very bestial does not mean that all of them do.
Compare the SG to the Troll Combat Mage. The combat mage looks more like a
large horned human than most trolls. In fact it looks like a Fomori to me.

Personally I enjoyed all the new SR3 artwork. And for my money I want to see
trolls that look like something that pops out from under bridges and devours
goats. ;-)

Oh yeah ... if you wanna see a REALLY bad picture of a troll, check out the
cover for the SR novel Changeling, where the main troll character is
depicted looking like an ork/loup-garou crossbreed. Ick.

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
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Message no. 2
From: Michael vanHulst <Schizi@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Thas's a good lookin' trog! (Was Re: Artwork in SR3)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:08:59 EDT
In a message dated 9/6/98 10:40:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bluewizard@*****.COM writes:

>
> I have disagree with the notion that the picture of the Sprawl Ganger is a
> "new concept" for troll images.
> Take a look at Laubenstein's trolls.
Sure, but take a look at Laubestiens humans or elves.
For a few good trolls (IMO, and if you can't see Crystal Raiders) try the
color plate Rumble in redmond, bottom right corner. The aforementioned combat
mage seems decent enough, there are probably more, just gotta look, seems
trolls don't make it into a lot of pics.
On another note, one player was flipping through, saw the tribal shaman, and
said "If she is a dwarf, where is her beard?" My answer was "back in
AD&D
where they all HAVE beards."
Message no. 3
From: NightRain <nightrain@***.BRISNET.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Thas's a good lookin' trog! (Was Re: Artwork in SR3)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:56:16 +1000
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shadowrun Discussion [mailto:SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET]On
> Behalf Of Steven A. Tinner
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 1998 3:41 PM
>
>
> Oh yeah ... if you wanna see a REALLY bad picture of a
> troll, check out the
> cover for the SR novel Changeling, where the main troll character is
> depicted looking like an ork/loup-garou crossbreed. Ick.

I also thought the cover of the novel Bloodsport has one good looking
ork on it. The guy holding the lighter is meant to be an ork, but if
you could tell from the picture (except for maybe having slightly
pointy ears) then your doing well. And although I disagree with the
whole bestial ork/troll thing, this is too far in the opposite
direction.

NightRain.

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