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Message no. 1
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 08:03:44 -0600
Carsten Gehling wrote:

>What really happened in '29?

My personal theory is that the internet became spontaneously sentient to a
certain degree and the destruction of information wasn't intentional, but
simply a product of this new being evolving. File systems/OS's/and
internet pathways were redirected in much the same way that a baby's brain
"wires" itself as the baby adapts to it's environment.

And in much the same way that the media today is calling the I-Love-You
program a virus, when it fact it is a trojon horse, the media of '29 was
just as clueless and identified the cause of the crash of '29 as a virus
and it stuck. Those in the know didn't feel there was a need to terrify
the world with the truth, and let the media perpetuate the story that it
was a virus.

The matrix is now designed in such a way to prevent this from happening
again, which is why you need password access just to switch from one LTG to
another, and IC is everywhere. They aren't security checkpoints, but
information bottlenecks. They have in fact reduced the chances of the
matrix spontaneously transforming into a neural net.

As for the permanent loss of information, I think it was a conspiracy
between the then young megacorps to "destroy" information and technology to
make a buck. With the way the technology curve was advancing mankind was
heading towards becoming a utopian society. And profit doesn't exist in a
utopian society (or the megacorps feared that they would lose their power
in a utopian society). They could also have justified it by saying that
they didn't feel that mankind was ready for utopia.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
To Life,
-Graht
http://www.users.uswest.net/~abaker3
--
"Warm nights, good food, kindred spirits....great life!"
Message no. 2
From: Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:22:09 +0200
From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
> Carsten Gehling wrote:
>
> >What really happened in '29?
>
> My personal theory is that ....
>SNIP<

Isn't the entire crash of '29 and the Echo Mirage Team explained near the
end of...*suspence builder*...The Dragonheart Trilogy? *runs to hide*

Regards,

DV8

"Abashed the Devil stood, and felt how awful Goodness is,..."
- John Milton, Paradise Lost
Message no. 3
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 09:23:28 -0600
Dennis Steinmeijer wrote:
>From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
> > Carsten Gehling wrote:
> >
> > >What really happened in '29?
> >
> > My personal theory is that ....
> >SNIP<
>
>Isn't the entire crash of '29 and the Echo Mirage Team explained near the
>end of...*suspence builder*...The Dragonheart Trilogy? *runs to hide*

Sorry, but some of us don't read Shadowrun fiction (not that I have
anything against Shadowrun fiction, but other books keep cropping up on my
reading list). Furthermore, Shadowrun fiction is not cannon (but then
again, even the rule books aren't cannon ;). And finally, how do you know
that the explanation in the Dragonheart Trilogy is the truth? :)

To Life,
-Graht
http://www.users.uswest.net/~abaker3
--
"What you are doing at the moment must be exactly what
you are doing at the moment--and nothing else."
Message no. 4
From: Peter Kristiansen sds@**.auc.dk
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:44:39 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
On Mon, 8 May 2000 dbuehrer@******.carl.org wrote:

> Dennis Steinmeijer wrote:
> >From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
> >
> >Isn't the entire crash of '29 and the Echo Mirage Team explained near the
> >end of...*suspence builder*...The Dragonheart Trilogy? *runs to hide*
>
[SNIP]
> that the explanation in the Dragonheart Trilogy is the truth? :)
[SNIP]
>

I don't read most shadowrun fiction either, but maybe.. soon.. Until
then could someone drop two - three lines about the Crash of '29 and
Echo Mirage explanation in The Dragonheart Trilogy.

Feel free to mail them directly to me if you want to.

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Message no. 5
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:23:03 -0500
On Mon, 08 May 2000 09:23:28 -0600 dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:
<SNIP>
> >Isn't the entire crash of '29 and the Echo Mirage Team explained
> >near the
> >end of...*suspence builder*...The Dragonheart Trilogy? *runs to
> >hide*

<SNIP>
> Furthermore, Shadowrun fiction is not cannon
<SNIP>

Uhm ... Shadowrun fiction IS canon as far as history is concerned.

--
D. Ghost
Profanity is the one language all programmers know best
- Troutman's 6th programming postulate.

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Message no. 6
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:15:58 -0600
Alfredo B Alves wrote:
>On Mon, 08 May 2000 09:23:28 -0600 dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:
><SNIP>
> > >Isn't the entire crash of '29 and the Echo Mirage Team explained
> > >near the
> > >end of...*suspence builder*...The Dragonheart Trilogy? *runs to
> > >hide*
>
><SNIP>
> > Furthermore, Shadowrun fiction is not cannon
><SNIP>
>
>Uhm ... Shadowrun fiction IS canon as far as history is concerned.

Okay, let me rephrase that, Shadowrun fiction is not cannon in my humble
opinion.

All I wanted to do was to start a simple thread on possible explanations
for the Crash of 29. If you are one of the people who has read the
Dragonheart Trilogy and believe that the explanation in that series is the
only explanation, feel free not to participate.

To Life,
-Graht
http://www.users.uswest.net/~abaker3
--
"Wisdom has two parts: having a lot to say, and not saying it."
Message no. 7
From: Penta cpenta@*****.com
Subject: The Crash of '29
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 17:04:24 -0400
dbuehrer@******.carl.org wrote:

> Dennis Steinmeijer wrote:
> >From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
> > > Carsten Gehling wrote:
> > >
> > > >What really happened in '29?
> > >
> > > My personal theory is that ....
> > >SNIP<
> >
> >Isn't the entire crash of '29 and the Echo Mirage Team explained near the
> >end of...*suspence builder*...The Dragonheart Trilogy? *runs to hide*
>
> Sorry, but some of us don't read Shadowrun fiction (not that I have
> anything against Shadowrun fiction, but other books keep cropping up on my
> reading list). Furthermore, Shadowrun fiction is not cannon (but then
> again, even the rule books aren't cannon ;). And finally, how do you know
> that the explanation in the Dragonheart Trilogy is the truth? :)

WHERE is this explanation? I have all 3 books. No idea where it is.

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