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Message no. 1
From: John IV <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: The decker hate loop
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 00:39:04 -0600
Look, guys, I'm _really tired of seeing this in my mail index, okay? If you
think that discussing how much you hate deckers or decker-haters or
decker-hater-haters is _really_ that important, I think it's time you took
this to a private e-mail discussion. You're wasting computer time, and
<gasp> some of us don't really care.

But that's just my opinion. You are, of course, free to do whatever you
choose.

John IV <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
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"Sometimes after an electrical storm I see in 5 dimensions. Why are the
sixty of you looking at me like that?"

--Cornfed, from _Duckman_
Message no. 2
From: Alex van der Kleut <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 12:06:56 -0400
For everyone who derides and abuses deckers, go out and see the net.
Watch all of the things that a few people can do do to one persons life
to make it a living hell. Now tell me how useless deckers are. Why have
the sammie try to kill someone when the decker can cange his ID to read 5
outstanding warrants on charges of cop-killing?
Message no. 3
From: Mr Bob Sagittarian <habelmon@********.CS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:57:36 +0930
>
> For everyone who derides and abuses deckers, go out and see the net.
> Watch all of the things that a few people can do do to one persons life
> to make it a living hell. Now tell me how useless deckers are. Why have
> the sammie try to kill someone when the decker can cange his ID to read 5
> outstanding warrants on charges of cop-killing?
>

Well, the fact is that sure a decker can do that, but the fact is that
at least you could have a chance against lonestar, however if Mr.
Samurai gets you while your jacked, no second chances.

Fact number two; Look at the net. Look at how much one peice of
programming can do to one person's brain and make it scrambled eggs.

Fact number three: Nobody said that deckers were useless. I just hate
them.

Fact number four: Bite me.
--

Bob Sagittarian Odds & Ends
habelmon@********.cs.adelaide.edu.au
stimpy@****.student.adelaide.edu.au
Message no. 4
From: Andre' Selmer <031SEA@******.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:37:27 +0200
:->Date sent: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:57:36 +0930
:->Send reply to: Discussion of the Fantasy game ShadowRun
<SHADOWRN@*****.nic.SURFnet.nl>
:->From: Mr Bob Sagittarian <habelmon@********.CS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
:->Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
:->To: Multiple recipients of list SHADOWRN
<SHADOWRN@*****.nic.SURFnet.nl>

:->>
:->> For everyone who derides and abuses deckers, go out and see the net.
:->> Watch all of the things that a few people can do do to one persons life
:->> to make it a living hell. Now tell me how useless deckers are. Why have
:->> the sammie try to kill someone when the decker can cange his ID to read 5
:->> outstanding warrants on charges of cop-killing?
:->>
:->
:->Well, the fact is that sure a decker can do that, but the fact is that
:->at least you could have a chance against lonestar, however if Mr.
:->Samurai gets you while your jacked, no second chances.
:->
:->Fact number two; Look at the net. Look at how much one peice of
:->programming can do to one person's brain and make it scrambled eggs.
:->
:->Fact number three: Nobody said that deckers were useless. I just hate
:->them.
:->
:->Fact number four: Bite me.

What and recieve some nasty bacterial infection never !!

Apart from loathing deckers, the sammie / decker combo is great.
First of all you get to blow up the nasties to little bits, and
when you need some info on something, the decker part does the prelim
and brings down the cost when hiring the real thing.

Andre'
Man is a teller of stories, he lives by and is surrounded by his
own stories and those of other people, he sees everythings that
happens to him in terms of these stories and thus has to live
enacting them
-Sarte

GARFIELD !
-Jon
Message no. 5
From: Mr Bob Sagittarian <habelmon@********.CS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 18:15:58 +0930
>
> What and recieve some nasty bacterial infection never !!
>
> Apart from loathing deckers, the sammie / decker combo is great.
> First of all you get to blow up the nasties to little bits, and
> when you need some info on something, the decker part does the prelim
> and brings down the cost when hiring the real thing.
>


Yeah, sure the sam can do that but RIGGERS RULE!!!! Yes, GMs hear my plea.
Install CCSS in all security systems so that shithead decker can't get in without a lotta
hassle. Then RIGGERS will reign SUPREME!!!!!!! <basks in the glory of dronedom>

I love riggers. Ahhhhhh.


--


Bob Sagittarian Odds & Ends
habelmon@********.cs.adelaide.edu.au
stimpy@****.student.adelaide.edu.au
Message no. 6
From: Andre' Selmer <031SEA@******.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:56:38 +0200
:->>
:->> What and recieve some nasty bacterial infection never !!
:->>
:->> Apart from loathing deckers, the sammie / decker combo is great.
:->> First of all you get to blow up the nasties to little bits, and
:->> when you need some info on something, the decker part does the prelim
:->> and brings down the cost when hiring the real thing.
:->>
:->
:->
:-> Yeah, sure the sam can do that but RIGGERS RULE!!!! Yes, GMs hear my
:-> plea.
:->Install CCSS in all security systems so that shithead decker can't get in wit
:->hout a lotta

And don't forget to connect the battery of the car directly into
the Rigger Jack, it wheren't a pretty sight, smoke comming from those
elven ears....... <evil chuckle>

:->hassle. Then RIGGERS will reign SUPREME!!!!!!! <basks in the glory of droned
:->om>
:->
:-> I love riggers. Ahhhhhh.

Is it a bird, an insect, a plane.. No its just another
drone plumeting into the ground... pity

Andre'
Man is a teller of stories, he lives by and is surrounded by his
own stories and those of other people, he sees everythings that
happens to him in terms of these stories and thus has to live
enacting them
-Sarte

GARFIELD !
-Jon
Message no. 7
From: Mr Bob Sagittarian <habelmon@********.CS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 18:33:43 +0930
>
> And don't forget to connect the battery of the car directly into
> the Rigger Jack, it wheren't a pretty sight, smoke comming from those
> elven ears....... <evil chuckle>
>
> :->hassle. Then RIGGERS will reign SUPREME!!!!!!! <basks in the glory of
droned
> :->om>
> :->
> :-> I love riggers. Ahhhhhh.
>
> Is it a bird, an insect, a plane.. No its just another
> drone plumeting into the ground... pity
>

Hmmm.... you're determined to disagree with me aren't you.

Well, I fly a Condor with an Uzi. No recoil that matters and as cheap as
dirt. Very nice signature. Great for nighttime. Ahhh.... the memories. No plummets
because we sell all of ours.

And who said I was fuckin' elven. Elves are eeeeeeevil. Medieeeeeeeevil.

--

Bob Sagittarian Odds & Ends
habelmon@********.cs.adelaide.edu.au
stimpy@****.student.adelaide.edu.au
Message no. 8
From: Andre' Selmer <031SEA@******.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject: Re: The decker hate loop
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:07:27 +0200
:->>
:->> And don't forget to connect the battery of the car directly into
:->> the Rigger Jack, it wheren't a pretty sight, smoke comming from those
:->> elven ears....... <evil chuckle>
:->>
:->> :->hassle. Then RIGGERS will reign SUPREME!!!!!!! <basks in the glory of
d
:->roned
:->> :->om>
:->> :->
:->> :-> I love riggers. Ahhhhhh.
:->>
:->> Is it a bird, an insect, a plane.. No its just another
:->> drone plumeting into the ground... pity
:->>
:->
:-> Hmmm.... you're determined to disagree with me aren't you.
:->
Yes, I am...

:-> Well, I fly a Condor with an Uzi. No recoil that matters and as cheap
:-> as
:->dirt. Very nice signature. Great for nighttime. Ahhh.... the memories. No plu
:->mmets
:->because we sell all of ours.

I hope it has some decent ECM/ECCM gear....
:->
:-> And who said I was fuckin' elven. Elves are eeeeeeevil. Medieeeeeeeev
:->il.
Hoy, I never said you were elven (the fact you're not
places you several categories higher), no I was merely reminicing
about the last time a rigger attempted to cause me grief

Andre'
Man is a teller of stories, he lives by and is surrounded by his
own stories and those of other people, he sees everythings that
happens to him in terms of these stories and thus has to live
enacting them
-Sarte

GARFIELD !
-Jon

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