From: | Mongoose m0ng005e@*********.com |
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Subject: | The matrix (movie) [definate spoilers, not so viscous review] |
Date: | Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:59:03 -0500 |
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:> EXCUSE ME? "and some cold fusion"- what the FUCK do they need the
:> matrix
:> (as a power source) for, if they have cold fusion? And the "fead the
dead
:> to the living" doesn't work; even if you fead the cats to the rats, and
the
:> rats to the cats, you don't get the catskins for nothing. Producing food
:> for the humans would, by the laws of thermodynamics, consume more energy
:> than
:> they could get out of them.
:>
:Agreed. The first thing that ran through my mind when I saw that for
:the first time was "OK, so what's the *real* reason?". It's so
:*obviously* a lie that anybody with any technical background would
:notice. There are a couple of points that I found:
:1) Remember the bit about Agent Smith saying that once Zion had been
:destroyed that there would be no need for him to remain? Why not, if
:this is all just to control humans? Perhaps if Zion is destroyed, they
:won't *need* the humans?
:2) Agent Smith makes reference as to how whole "crops" were lost when
:they tried for utopia.
I think the "Destroy Zion" thing was just because there would be no more
threat of outside hackers- if a person caused trouble from INSIDE the
matrix, the machines could just kill him, as opposed to having to hunt them
down.
The "crops" were shown- they harvest people and use them for energy,
supposedly. Not an unlikely refrence, if the Sentianl knew about this
paractice.
I certainly toyed with the idea that there was some further truth being
hidden from the viewers (somebody contolling the machines, or even that the
machines were themselves living vitual lives), but the movie just didn't go
in that dirrection, as I saw it.
:Uh huh. Let me see if I can guess what you mean:
:Blade Runner - machines in human form, or are you going for the
:inversion of the machines hunting a pocket of human rebels vs. humans
:hunting a pocket of "rebel" replicants?
:Terminator - an enemy that seems virtually invulnerable
:Clockwork Orange - err, violence?
:Haven't seen Brazil or 5th Element, so I shouldn't comment.
:
:Is that about right?
Naw, I figured it this way:
Blade Runner- Look and feel (to a limited extent), plus "who is my creator,
and how can I kill him and get control of my destiny?". There is also the
question of whether any persons memories are realy real- and if memories are
not, why should the present be?
Treminator- Man creates machine that takes over world and eleminates /
enslaves man. Classic (butchered) Frankenstien.
Clockwork Orange- is there such a thing as free will, and is loosing it
really so bad, if it improves the quality of life?
Brazil- its all one big mindfuck, or is it?
5th element- there is the one perfect waepon / being, but they need love to
fulfill that destiny.
Not that the fact that you can draw these parallels is BAD- the issues
are ones ubiquitous to sci-fi and, especially cyberpunk and its progenitors.
But I don't think the blending of so many of those concepts was well
handled, given that the POINT of the movie seemed to be showing kick ass
kung fu heroes in sexy black leather, who were going to put a stop to some
really bad, but kinda silly, exploitation of the human race.
Personally, I wish they had never showed us who was in charge of the
matrix, or had Morpheous advance any theory as to why it existed.
Mongoose