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Message no. 1
From: Tzeentch tzeentch666@*********.net
Subject: The Matrix (was Re: insiders: cannon companion due?)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:42:07 -0800
From: Bull <bull@***********.com>
> >Not quite correct. There was the little Immortal Elf chat at the
beginning
> >of VR2 but there was limited 'real' shadowtalk in the Matrix Law section.
> >
> That's right... Forgot about that... And there was the little "Lets
teach
> corper Jr. how to use the Matrix" thing by Mom on the RUn at the
> beginning... But still... Nothing that was the least bit USEFUL... None
> of that told me ANYTHING I didn;t already know about the Matrix and
Decking
> from just the rules...

I agree. Personally VR is one of the books I'd rather NOT see annoying
decker comments in. The Target: Matrix book yes, but not the rulebook -
space wasted that could have been better used for other text.

> >VR1 was a waste of space. The story was excellent (if quite dated now in
> >terminology) but the other material was so slim it should have been made
a
> >little pamphlet.
> >
> Unfortunately, VR2 is almsot useless because of the FUBARed editing and
> writing job on it. Ugh...

Really? I don't think it was NEARLY that bad. I think it's a sight better
organized then Man and Machine or most of the older SR1 books.

> The Matrix is one of the few "redo" books that I'm truely looking forward
> to buying. I love the new books in general, especially cause they compile
> the info I need and want, but... VR 2 is the only book I felt REALLY
> needed to be redone.

Well there are certainly enough submissions in for the project! Maybe all
the people who submitted for the book can have a big game of Unreal
Tournament or have a contest for who knows the most hacker trivia ;)

Ken
---------------------------
There's a war out there, old friend, a world war. And it's not about who's
got the most bullets, it's about who controls the information. What we see
and hear, how we work, what we think, it's all about the information!
Cosmo, 'Sneakers'
Message no. 2
From: Andrew Murdoch toreador@***.bc.ca
Subject: The Matrix (was Re: insiders: cannon companion due?)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:38:05 -0800 (PST)
- Tzeentch <14:42/2-Mar-2000>

> Well there are certainly enough submissions in for the project! Maybe all
> the people who submitted for the book can have a big game of Unreal
> Tournament or have a contest for who knows the most hacker trivia ;)

Well, somewhere among those submissions I hope there's one thing in
particular to be included in The Matrix: rules for the use and creation of
IC by characters or others in the know about such programs. Simply having
them as these amorphous shapes coming at you isn't enough for this
decker. I wanna make the stuff! =)

--
Raven
Sometimes known as Andrew C. Murdoch
toreador@***.bc.ca
http://members.xoom.com/corvisraven
Message no. 3
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: The Matrix (was Re: insiders: cannon companion due?)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:12:28 EST
In a message dated 3/7/00 2:38:40 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
toreador@***.bc.ca writes:

> - Tzeentch <14:42/2-Mar-2000>
>
> > Well there are certainly enough submissions in for the project! Maybe all
> > the people who submitted for the book can have a big game of Unreal
> > Tournament or have a contest for who knows the most hacker trivia ;)
>
> Well, somewhere among those submissions I hope there's one thing in
> particular to be included in The Matrix: rules for the use and creation of
> IC by characters or others in the know about such programs. Simply having
> them as these amorphous shapes coming at you isn't enough for this
> decker. I wanna make the stuff! =)

I somehow have to agree with you. Don't suppose you have any ideas yourself
as to what would be the difference between IC and "Frames" do ya???

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-K
-"Just a Bastard"
-Hoosier Hacker House
"Children of the Kernel"
[http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/index.html]
Message no. 4
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: The Matrix (was Re: insiders: cannon companion due?)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:48:03 -0800
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:12:28 EST HHackerH@***.com writes:
> In a message dated 3/7/00 2:38:40 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> toreador@***.bc.ca writes:
<SNIP>
> > Well, somewhere among those submissions I hope there's one thing
> > in
> > particular to be included in The Matrix: rules for the use and
> > creation of
> > IC by characters or others in the know about such programs.
> > Simply having
> > them as these amorphous shapes coming at you isn't enough for
> > this
> > decker. I wanna make the stuff! =)

> I somehow have to agree with you. Don't suppose you have any ideas
> yourself
> as to what would be the difference between IC and "Frames" do ya???

Specialization. IC are frames in which the code is optimized for a
specific host (For you Linux nuts, think it of it as compiling a kernel
optimized to run on your system.). Because, of this optimization, IC
can't "leave" a host (the code simply won't run on the new machine.) but
the performance is through the roof. (higher ratings or something.) Just
some thoughts. :)

--
D. Ghost
A Mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems
--Paul Erdos

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