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From:	TopCat <topcat@******.net>
Subject:	Re: The Question Factory
Date:	Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:06:01 -0600

Message no. 1 >2) It is listed in SRII and Shadowtech that skillsofts can be bought with a
>rating of up to level 10. However, there are no skillwires/skillwires-plus
>with a level rating beyond 9. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Skillwires-Plus can handle double their rating in skill. So a
Skillwire-Plus 3 can use skills at rating 6. But please note the obscene
price of activesofts in the 10 range.

(2000mp for a general skill)x(100 nuyen)x(1.25 street index)%0,000 nuyen.

That's before you nail the buyer on negotiation (the fixer happens to have
negotiation at 10 and has as many dice added to that as you feel like). In
case you were wondering, knowsofts around that level run upwards of 375,000.

Also, skillwires-plus at 5 costs 1 point of essence and 625,000 nuyen.
Which means resources have to start at A (so you can't be a metahuman by
standard rules if you want the 'wires) and a HEFTY percentage of what's left
of those resources will go to activesofts.

SSLD for a 2000mp skillsoft (from a softlink) is 12-20 turns depending on
whether or not the character has an I/O SPU. That right there is enough to
scare me off of relying on those. I prefer heaping hordes of rating 3
skillsofts loaded into headware memory with all the toys.

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From:	"Sedah Drol" <CCRODRIG@****.indstate.edu>
Subject:	Re: The Question Factory
Date:	Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:41:14 EST

Message no. 2 > The Dark Angel said:
> >3) Supposedly in the mid-twenty-first century, wood is becoming a rather
> >scarce commodity. Upon that I hope we can all agree. My question is, why is
> >it that this is so given Amazonia's constant battle with the jungle? They
> >over "stimulated" the jungle's growth and now they have to cut it back
damn
> >near every day. If this is the case, why is wood so short in supply? Isn't it
> >growing back as fast as they cut it? Just curious.
>
> Well, not everything that gets cut back is wood. Most of the stuff would be
> vines, weeds, and other 'soft' vegetable matter. And while I'm not up on my
> botony, I don't think that the wood of most trees in the rain forest make
> very useable wood. But I'm not sure about that.
On the contrary some of the worlds finest woods are found in rain
forests.
---Sedah Drol

From:	"A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject:	Re: The Question Factory
Date:	Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:48:14 +0000 (GMT)

Message no. 3 |
|> The Dark Angel said:
|> >3) Supposedly in the mid-twenty-first century, wood is becoming a rather
|> >scarce commodity. Upon that I hope we can all agree. My question is, why is
|> >it that this is so given Amazonia's constant battle with the jungle? They
|> >over "stimulated" the jungle's growth and now they have to cut it back
damn
|> >near every day. If this is the case, why is wood so short in supply? Isn't it
|> >growing back as fast as they cut it? Just curious.
|>
|> Well, not everything that gets cut back is wood. Most of the stuff would be
|> vines, weeds, and other 'soft' vegetable matter. And while I'm not up on my
|> botony, I don't think that the wood of most trees in the rain forest make
|> very useable wood. But I'm not sure about that.
|On the contrary some of the worlds finest woods are found in rain
|forests.

Yes, but the point was, it's illegal now and the question asked was why not
use the wood felled from the new growth encroaching onto the city limits.

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Subject:	Re: The Question Factory
Date:	Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:19:47 -0500

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Re: Wood

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|> The Dark Angel said:
|> >3) Supposedly in the mid-twenty-first century, wood is becoming a rather
|> >scarce commodity. Upon that I hope we can all agree. My question is, why is
|> >it that this is so given Amazonia's constant battle with the jungle? They
|> >over "stimulated" the jungle's growth and now they have to cut it back
damn
|> >near every day. If this is the case, why is wood so short in supply? Isn't
|> >it growing back as fast as they cut it? Just curious.
|>
|> Well, not everything that gets cut back is wood. Most of the stuff would be
|> vines, weeds, and other 'soft' vegetable matter. And while I'm not up on my
|> botony, I don't think that the wood of most trees in the rain forest make
|> very useable wood. But I'm not sure about that.
|On the contrary some of the worlds finest woods are found in rain
|forests.
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There's wood and then there's wood boys. For instance there is more
wooded teritory in the US today than there was 100 yrs ago - because the east
coast no longer has all the farms it did. However the price of wood is very
high because it takes a while to grow a tree. This is especially true of the
hardwoods - oak, maple, ash, mahogany, ipei, cedar. The last three grow only
in special environments and take 500 years or more to grow and the species are
not exactly thriving due to exploitation. So even with the remarkable growth
rate (I think the book said 40% for the Irish forests) you still have to wait
300 years to get to a truely mature forest. Sorry the post is so long.

Chris

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