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Message no. 1
From: chipeloi@***.nl (chipeloi@***.nl)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:56:10 +0100
So what pieces of cyber wear should Every caracter have?

Cybereye's with all the goody's
smartlink
datajack

What els?
Message no. 2
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:14:56 -0800
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:56:10 +0100
chipeloi@***.nl wrote:
> So what pieces of cyber wear should Every caracter have?
>
> Cybereye's with all the goody's
> smartlink
> datajack
>
> What els?
>
Nix the cybereyes. Natural eyes and goggles with all the goodies.
Chipjack.
--Anders
Message no. 3
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:53:49 +0000
At 06:56 PM 5/11/2003, chipeloi wrote:
>So what pieces of cyber wear should Every caracter have?
>
>Cybereye's with all the goody's

Make it an absolute minimum of Low Light and Electronic Mag 1 (Optic for
marksmen)

>smartlink
>datajack

Add a little headware memory, even if you never plan to use it... If you
are never going to use it then have it locked off... The ability to store
incredibly vital stuff in a way which is "secure" will get you out of more
cr@* than a silenced Predator.

Finally, not cyberware but...
The implant every character should have if they can possibly fit it in...
The Sleep Regulator.


--
Lone Eagle
"Hold up lads, I got an idea."

www.wyrmtalk.co.uk - Please be patient, this site is under construction

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Message no. 4
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:00:49 +0100
Lone Eagle wrote:

> Finally, not cyberware but...
> The implant every character should have if they can possibly fit it
> in...
> The Sleep Regulator.

Too bad it's not allowed at chargen... (cultured bioware, and to high
availability)
I sooooo want one in real life, though. ;)

-- Wild_Cat
maxnoel_fr@*****.fr -- ICQ #85274019
"Look at you hacker... A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting
and sweating as you run through my corridors... How can you challenge a
perfect, immortal machine?"
Message no. 5
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:02:06 +0000
At 09:00 PM 6/11/2003, Wild_Cat wrote:
>>Finally, not cyberware but...
>>The implant every character should have if they can possibly fit it in...
>>The Sleep Regulator.
>
> Too bad it's not allowed at chargen... (cultured bioware, and to
> high availability)
> I sooooo want one in real life, though. ;)

A large number of house rules exist to allow high availability items at
char gen, I allow Cultured Bioware, why not, what changes between the day
you last visited your cybersurgeon and the day you start running?
Most of the rules I've seen allow a single item to be purchased while
ignoring availability (giving each player a Wow factor, their own special
ultimate piece of kit) and I'd rather start off a Sniper with a Remington
and sleep reg than an RA SM3

Oh I'd quite like one IRL too :D


--
Lone Eagle
"Hold up lads, I got an idea."

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Message no. 6
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:22:14 +0100
Lone Eagle wrote:

> A large number of house rules exist to allow high availability items
> at char gen, I allow Cultured Bioware, why not, what changes between
> the day you last visited your cybersurgeon and the day you start
> running?
> Most of the rules I've seen allow a single item to be purchased while
> ignoring availability (giving each player a Wow factor, their own
> special ultimate piece of kit) and I'd rather start off a Sniper with
> a Remington and sleep reg than an RA SM3

There's an excellent house rule I've seen somewhere (can't remember
where though) that's even better. The GM can choose to give the player
an "availability pool". Its points can be used to lower the
availability ratings of any number of items. For example, with an AP of
4, your character will be able to purchase either one item with an
avail. of 12, or 2 items with avail. of 10, or 4 with avail. 9, etc...
As for the sniper rifle, I totally agree with you, if only for the
fact that a Remington can be used in a regular gunfight without falling
apart. 9S semi-auto for less than 1K¥: ouch. (and it's got an internal
magazine -- very useful)

-- Wild_Cat
maxnoel_fr@*****.fr -- ICQ #85274019
"Look at you hacker... A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting
and sweating as you run through my corridors... How can you challenge a
perfect, immortal machine?"
Message no. 7
From: cmd_jackryan@***.net (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:36:55 +0100
Am Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:56:10 +0100 hat <chipeloi@***.nl> geschrieben:

> So what pieces of cyber wear should Every caracter have?
>
> Cybereye's with all the goody's
> smartlink
> datajack
>
> What els?

Good $Deity, which Awekened Cahracter would kill his magical abilities
with cyberware?

There is no Cyberware everyone has got to have, and such a list would be
nonsense anyways.
A better question would be, what kind of cyberware/bioware/nanoware should
a certain KIND of character have.
Reflexboosting stuff for streetsams, for example, are a "must have". And
how the augmentation is done is up to the player and GM to decide.


--
Phillip Gawlowski
Bastard GameMaster From Hell and General Idiot
Message no. 8
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:11:18 +0100
According to Phillip Gawlowski, on Friday 07 November 2003 11:36 the word
on the street was...

> Good $Deity, which Awekened Cahracter would kill his magical abilities
> with cyberware?

I would, no second thoughts about it. Whether or not to take 1 Essence
worth of cyberware is no decision at all, given the advantages you get
back for it. You suddenly go from Mr. Average to someone who can see in
the dark, can shoot straight, and moves twice as fast (well, almost) all
without any real penalties on your magical abilities.

> Reflexboosting stuff for streetsams, for example, are a "must have".

Not just sams, IMHO.

--
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Message no. 9
From: metis76@*****.com (Grey)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:05:15 -0800 (PST)
--- Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> > Good $Deity, which Awekened Cahracter would kill
> his magical abilities
> > with cyberware?
>
> I would, no second thoughts about it. Whether or not
> to take 1 Essence
> worth of cyberware is no decision at all, given the
> advantages you get
> back for it. You suddenly go from Mr. Average to
> someone who can see in
> the dark, can shoot straight, and moves twice as
> fast (well, almost) all
> without any real penalties on your magical
> abilities.

I'm with you all the way on that. Just about every
mage I've played takes a smartlink, datajack, optical
mag (usful for zooming in on targets for
spellcasting), and some other small item or two. You
can always make up for the magic loss with a Geasa.


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Message no. 10
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:54:04 -0800
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:05:15 -0800 (PST)
Grey <metis76@*****.com> wrote:
[snip]
> You can always make up for the magic loss with a Geasa.
>
>
You perhaps mean a Gaes? You only need one per ESN loss, as I recall.
--Anders
Message no. 11
From: chipeloi@***.nl (chipeloi@***.nl)
Subject: The ultimate Cyber wear list
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:40:23 +0100
On 6 Nov 2003 at 23:22, Max Noel wrote:

>
> Lone Eagle wrote:
>
> > A large number of house rules exist to allow high availability items
> > at char gen, I allow Cultured Bioware, why not, what changes between
> > the day you last visited your cybersurgeon and the day you start
> > running?
> > Most of the rules I've seen allow a single item to be purchased while
> > ignoring availability (giving each player a Wow factor, their own
> > special ultimate piece of kit) and I'd rather start off a Sniper with
> > a Remington and sleep reg than an RA SM3
>
> There's an excellent house rule I've seen somewhere (can't remember
> where though) that's even better. The GM can choose to give the player
> an "availability pool". Its points can be used to lower the
> availability ratings of any number of items. For example, with an AP of
> 4, your character will be able to purchase either one item with an
> avail. of 12, or 2 items with avail. of 10, or 4 with avail. 9, etc...

Now that's a great idea !
Thanks guy's i'm going to use it with a special twist
Depending on how much effort they put into building the caracters as a team and how well
though out the idea's are i'm going to give them an availability pool (shared or
individual not
sure witch yet , any idea's?)

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