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Message no. 1
From: Grahamdrew <mnemonic25@*********.COM>
Subject: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:59:34 -0400
I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
do with a dude driving a schoolbus.

Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?
Message no. 2
From: "Christopher M. Coulter" <kamikaze@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:16:34 +0000
> I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
> do with a dude driving a schoolbus.
>
> Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?
>
Propane or diesel?

Christopher M. Coulter
Message no. 3
From: Lehlan Decker <DeckerL@******.COM>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:18:04 -0400
>Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can
>go?
No idea about the fuel consumption, but I'm guessing it's
fairly bad. Hmmm..I'm guessing the top speed can't be
more then 65 mph, unless your going down hill with somebody
pushing. But I haven't ridden in a school bus in a loooooong
time, so take this with a grain of salt.
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Message no. 4
From: nocturnal@*******.NET
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:32:06 +0000
Lehlan Decker wrote:
>
> >Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can
> >go?
> No idea about the fuel consumption, but I'm guessing it's
> fairly bad. Hmmm..I'm guessing the top speed can't be
> more then 65 mph, unless your going down hill with somebody
> pushing. But I haven't ridden in a school bus in a loooooong
> time, so take this with a grain of salt.

The bus I ride must be a newer model.. looking at the speedometer last year, I saw it
maxed
out at 100. I would guess it does around 6 to 10 miles to the gallon, which equals out to
be
around 10 to 16 kilometers to every 4 liters.. (2.5 to 4 kpL). I hope this helps at least
a little;
and school buses nowdays have a max capacity of 80-something passengers.

Nocturnal
Message no. 5
From: Shaun Gilroy <shaung@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:33:02 -0400
At 03:32 PM 10/22/98 +0000, you wrote:
>The bus I ride must be a newer model.. looking at the speedometer last=
year,
>I saw it maxed
>out at 100. I would guess it does around 6 to 10 miles to the gallon, which

Auto manufacturers have a one-size fits all attitude with speedometers.
just because the speedometer goes to 100 mph, doesn't mean that the bus
does. likewise, just because a speedometer only goes to 100 doesn't mean
that's the vehicle's top speed [just the fastest you're expected to make it
go].
(>)noysh the spoonë bard
-> jack of all trades, master of none. <-
Message no. 6
From: Lehlan Decker <DeckerL@******.COM>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round... -Reply
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:39:49 -0400
<SNIP You can't drive 65>
>The bus I ride must be a newer model.. looking at the
>speedometer last year, I saw it maxed
>out at 100. I would guess it does around 6 to 10 miles to the
>gallon, which equals out to be
>around 10 to 16 kilometers to every 4 liters.. (2.5 to 4 kpL). I
>hope this helps at least a little;
>and school buses nowdays have a max capacity of
>80-something passengers.
100 miles per hour! Woah I'm old, but not that old. (I hope).
You must have had a cool bus driver as well, most of mine
wouldn't have driven that fast, even if the bus could take it.
Which brings up an interesting idea. Has anybody ever
done something similiar to the movie "Speed" in
Shadowrun? I'm thinking with the Rigger 2 rules, it might
be possible these days.
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Message no. 7
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:55:53 -0600
For the mere cost of a Thaum, Grahamdrew wrote:
/
/ I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
/ do with a dude driving a schoolbus.

If the dude's name is Otto, then it can drive off a bridge faster than
you can wipe the orange juice out of your eye ;)

/ Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?

Well, I had to drive a '97 mid-sized diesal truck 800 miles this
summer. I'd say it's comparable to a school bus (big, square, and
yellow). The truck had great pick up and good power, but I rarely got
it over 85 miles an hour (75 mph was my average with the gas pedal to
the floor). I'd guess the gas mileage was around 8mpg.

-David Buehrer
--
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Message no. 8
From: Ed <equine@***********.COM>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:40:37 -0500
I just asked a guy I work with who I thought might know someone that drives
one (he is one of your hippy looking guys that loves VW Buses) and he said
this:

10 miles to the gallon (may vary depending on if you are going up and down
hills alot)
65 MPH for top speed. (these are for empty buses too)

I asked how much gas one of them things could hold and he said it
depends...and then went on about how it depends on if they have propane or
not and yada yada but I figured you wanted an unmodified bus.

I found this site for you.. http://www.schoolbusfleet.com/ ... which might
have more info for you to use.

Ed

>I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
>do with a dude driving a schoolbus.
>Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?




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Message no. 9
From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:55:46 EDT
In a message dated 98-10-22 16:34:21 EDT, you write:

> The bus I ride must be a newer model.. looking at the speedometer last year,
> I saw it maxed
> out at 100. I would guess it does around 6 to 10 miles to the gallon, which
> equals out to be
> around 10 to 16 kilometers to every 4 liters.. (2.5 to 4 kpL). I hope this
> helps at least a little;
> and school buses nowdays have a max capacity of 80-something passengers.

Busses also are desinged to run a long time on a tank of gas. I would say
somewhere in the 500-1000 L range for the tank.
Message no. 10
From: nocturnal@*******.NET
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:26:25 +0000
Shaun Gilroy wrote:
>
> At 03:32 PM 10/22/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >The bus I ride must be a newer model.. looking at the speedometer last year,
> >I saw it maxed
> >out at 100. I would guess it does around 6 to 10 miles to the gallon, which
>
> Auto manufacturers have a one-size fits all attitude with speedometers.
> just because the speedometer goes to 100 mph, doesn't mean that the bus
> does. likewise, just because a speedometer only goes to 100 doesn't mean
> that's the vehicle's top speed [just the fastest you're expected to make it
> go].
> (>)noysh the spoonë bard
> -> jack of all trades, master of none. <-

Good point... Mom used to have an old Corsica that had a top listed speed of 80 on the
speedometer, but we had it goin at least 100... thats when the Oil light came on *grin*

Nocturnal
Message no. 11
From: "O'Mordha, Michael" <michael.omordha@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:58:55 -0700
>I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
>do with a dude driving a schoolbus.
>
>Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?

I college I drove some old buses. the 'airporter' buses generally held
(legally) up to 28 passengers, got approx. 12 miles/gallon, and it had 40
gallons tanks. the 'school bus' we had was this double-clutch 4 speed
beast. if you wanted to risk serious engine damage, you exceeded 55 mph.
65 mph was certain death. top reasonable speed was 50 mph. none of the
buses had any guts. the airporters weren't as bad, but even an old station
wagon (or VW bus) could usually beat a school bus across the intersection.
O'Mordha (glad to be driving a honda)
Message no. 12
From: Tim Burke <ranger@********.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:46:20 +1000
At 03:59 PM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
>do with a dude driving a schoolbus.
>
>Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?
>

I can't believe that noone has said that the bus can't go any slower
that 50mph or .........KABOOM!!!

crispy kiddies.

Sorry all..It had to be done.

Tim Burke
a.k.a. Manx
ranger@********.com.au
#950 of 1000
Message no. 13
From: Starjammer <starjammer@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:53:15 -0400
At 02:58 PM 10-22-98 -0700, you wrote:
>>I'm trying to work out a run, and one major piece I'm doing has a lot to
>>do with a dude driving a schoolbus.
>>
>>Anybody know how much gas and how fast a schoolbus can go?
>
>I college I drove some old buses. the 'airporter' buses generally held
>(legally) up to 28 passengers, got approx. 12 miles/gallon, and it had 40
>gallons tanks. the 'school bus' we had was this double-clutch 4 speed
>beast. if you wanted to risk serious engine damage, you exceeded 55 mph.
>65 mph was certain death. top reasonable speed was 50 mph. none of the
>buses had any guts. the airporters weren't as bad, but even an old station
>wagon (or VW bus) could usually beat a school bus across the intersection.
>O'Mordha (glad to be driving a honda)

Bear in mind that many buses (especially school buses) have governors on
the engines or other design "features" which restrict their max speed.
Remove the right bits, or replace the right parts, and you can probably get
a bus that'll go 80+ mph without a problem. I wouldn't want to try
maneuvering a school bus at those speeds, VCR or no, but that's a different
problem... ;)
Starjammer | Una salus victus nullam sperare salutem.
starjammer@**********.com | "The one hope of the doomed is not to hope
Marietta, GA | for safety." --Virgil, The Aeneid
Message no. 14
From: Steadfast <laughingman@*******.DE>
Subject: Re: The wheels on the bus go round and round...
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:41:00 +0200
And so it came to happen that Starjamme wrote:

<snip>
> I wouldn't want to try
> maneuvering a school bus at those speeds, VCR or no, but that's a different
> problem... ;)

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OK. Just one suggestion. Make the schoolbus rather hard to steer. Perhaps a
handling of 5/6 should make it. Ah, wait a moment...here are some sugested stats
that IMO would work for a Diesel:
Handling 4/10
Speed 60 (90 top)
Accel 3
Body 5
Armor 0
Fuel Diesel; 285
Ecconomy 1l=2km
Load I havent figured it out yet, insert what you think apropriate.
CF Same here
Seating 2 Front 30 Benchseats back (This would give spacing to aprox.
50 to 80 people, depending on exact design of seating)

I'll made them on the fly, so pleas be gentle while picking on it ;o)
BTW, I used the medium transport template to start with. Cost would be around
70.000 Y to 80.000 Y.
Hope it helped.
--
---> Steadfast
Surfin' through the 'trix is
not like dustin crops boy!

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