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Message no. 1
From: GT2150@*******
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 21:38:56 CST
SORRY FOR THE SHOUTIN FOLKS BUT THE MACHINE HAS A BUG AT THE MOMENT,
I'LL FIX, REALLY.

IN RESPONE TO CRUSHER JOES QUESTIONS .



WELL CRUSHER I CAN'T ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTION BUT MAYBE I CAN HELP W/
FEW.

IF I WERE RASING SKILLS I WOULD ALLOW YOU TO BASE THE NEW LEVEL FROM
THE OLD ONE, PAYING FOR THE INCREASE FOR 'EACH' ONE. HOWEVER I WOULD ALSO
,REAL LIKELY AT LEAST, LIMIT THE # YOU COULD JUMP AT A TIME.

SHOTGUNS, HMMM. THERE WAS A POST A FEW DAYS AGO, DON'T REMEMBER WHO
DID IT THOUGH, ABOUT AN ARTICLE FROM A MAGAZINE TO INCREASE THE LETAHLITY
OF SHOTGUNS IN SR. IM SURE THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO E-MAIL YOU A COPY. AS
FOR AN AUTOMATIC VERSION, I HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET. ( NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE
THAT HAS)

INAT: SOUNDS REASONABLE.

SOURCEBOOKS/RUNS:
I MUST HAVE MISSED THRE INFO ABOUT THE SOURCE YOUR REFERING TO, BUT
BE INTERESTED AS WELL.
AS FAR AS BEING INTERESTED IN YOUR WORK ON A MOBIUS WORLD: YES!!!

KA'GE
ONLY THE SHADOW OF THE GHOST IN THE MACHINE
Message no. 2
From: What ? <MCM@***.BRIGHTON.AC.UK>
Subject: Things
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 11:11:00 BST
Cheers for the comments on the Adept stuff,
I think that a slight change to a couple of things, should straighten out
the creases....

Nerve Strike - No T-Roberson mention that it should bypass armour.
Erm, it would IMHO be able to pentrait up to 4 points of
Impact armour (that's standard Partial) and before the cry "Git" is given
Blokes in Partial Armour are usual armed to the teeth, so walking up to them
and digging them in the ribs is not the easest of jobs.
It is posible to design armour to protect those nerve points but it takes
someone with the skill or a nerveology (good word eh ?) skill working with
an armourer (has to be at least of Impact 3)

Shattering Blow - make it an Unresisted test for breaking things (Inamimate)
and for breaking people, I'd make it reliant on the Killing Hands skill.
For example,
You'd need to have Killing hands at Moderate to snap hands &feets
Serious - Limbs
Deadly - Necks

This attack would have to be an aimed blow.
Nasty.

And again spit your comments this way, Ta.

Question Time

What is the difference (and what do they do) between Infrared and Ultraviolet
laser sights ? The reason for this question is that one of my accursed players
want to have either/both fittd to his cybereyes. Is that possible ?
I know thermographics "see" in the dark but they aren't very clear on who's who.

-- WHAT

For that list ...

After an hour and a half of careful character construction, plot details,
and background on a quiet, shy rigger, the first thing Capt'n Munchkin said
"Who do I get to shoot then ?"
Daaaaaaaaaaa, Why Me ?


"The main use I have for rule books is something to hit player's heads
with" - Me.

"If it ain't fun, then it my job" - Me, again.

To Tyger, if your still out there .....

Don't let the buggers get you down !
Message no. 3
From: Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Things
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 10:22:36 EDT
>>>>> "What" == What <? <MCM@***.BRIGHTON.AC.UK>>
writes:

What> Nerve Strike - No T-Roberson mention that it should bypass armour.

Actually, here's a better idea, IMO. Instead of buying something special
like Killing Hands, buy armor penetration. Ie, for something like .5 Magic
you can negate the effects of one point of impact armor. It could apply to
both "normal" damage (nerve strikes) and Killing Hands.

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Message no. 4
From: Wolfchild nathan.olsen@*******.msus.edu
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:36:47 -0500 (CDT)
Assuming it would be possible (which it is not), how much essence would it
cost to completely replace someone's brain with some sort of
cyber-computer?

How do concentrations and specializations work in SR3 for firearms?


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Message no. 5
From: GRANITE granite@**.net
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:34:13 -0700
> Assuming it would be possible (which it is not), how much essence would it
> cost to completely replace someone's brain with some sort of
> cyber-computer?

At least 10 points of essence
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
==============================================Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The
Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
==============================================Understanding is a three edged sword. - Kosh
What is best in life?
To Crush Your Enemies,
See Them Driven Before You,
And To Hear The Lamentation Of Their Women. -Conan
I Am The LAW! -JD
Who Do You Trust? And, Who Do You Serve? - Galen
Jamais Arriere
Message no. 6
From: David Cordy DCordy@****.com
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:54:48 -0700
> > Assuming it would be possible (which it is not), how much essence would
> it
> > cost to completely replace someone's brain with some sort of
> > cyber-computer?
>
> At least 10 points of essence
>
That's it! Wow all I have to do is find a Delta grade clinic that offers
cybermancy and I am set! ;-)

> --------------------------------GRANITE
>
DavidC

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Message no. 7
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:00:46 EDT
In a message dated 7/29/99 5:37:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nathan.olsen@*******.msus.edu writes:

> Assuming it would be possible (which it is not), how much essence would it
> cost to completely replace someone's brain with some sort of
> cyber-computer?

I always thought it'd be fun to build a character out of cyberlimbs and stick
an SK in as the brain.

As far as replacing someone's brain with a cyber-computer, I can't see how
the person would even be themselves anymore. I mean, they can't scan your
brain into a memory core (hence the reason no AIs have been poping up all
over the place....well, except the usual four).





-Twist
Message no. 8
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:03:09 EDT
In a message dated 7/29/99 5:37:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nathan.olsen@*******.msus.edu writes:

> How do concentrations and specializations work in SR3 for firearms?

No concentrations anymore. Specializations have become concentrations and
the older specializations have been removed. So, only specializations now,
and they all work with raising the skill one point, and lowering the general
one point. Just like old concentrations.





-Twist
Message no. 9
From: runnerpaul@*****.com runnerpaul@*****.com
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:20:56 -0400 (EDT)
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At 06:00 PM 7/29/99 -0400, Twist0059@***.com wrote:
:As far as replacing someone's brain with a cyber-computer, I can't
:see how the person would even be themselves anymore. I mean, they
:can't scan your brain into a memory core

Oh? :)

Depending on how much credence you give to shadowtalk, that might not
be entirely true anymore. The shadowtalk on the profile of Global
Technologies in the Corporate Sector chapter of New Seattle (p.85)
mentions that "Global is also working on techniques for "neural
mapping" that will allow them to effectively copy someone's
personality, memories and skills onto a chip".

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Message no. 10
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: Things
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:55:29 EDT
In a message dated 7/29/99 9:23:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
runnerpaul@*****.com writes:

> Oh? :)
>
> Depending on how much credence you give to shadowtalk, that might not
> be entirely true anymore. The shadowtalk on the profile of Global
> Technologies in the Corporate Sector chapter of New Seattle (p.85)
> mentions that "Global is also working on techniques for "neural
> mapping" that will allow them to effectively copy someone's
> personality, memories and skills onto a chip".


But would such a copy possess the ability to evaluate and consider new data
like the Flatline in Neuromancer, or would it be just like the personafixes
in Dreamchipper. (Also made by Global and which I figured the shadowtalk was
referring to.)




-Twist

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