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Message no. 1
From: abenn@*****.net abenn@*****.net
Subject: This One's a bit strange so bear with me
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:02:04 +0100
<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Hello All,


Last week in my game session the Troll got suprised by a Piasma.
And when I saw surprised I mean Surprised. The combat lasted
one phase and consisted of the player <bold>completly</bold> screwing up his
body roll. He took base damage (in this case 12D (The Piasma
was using his enhanced strength power after all)) and promptly
collapsed from a single deadly would. Whoops.


Now the other players managed to nail the Piasma (Rigger and a
Steel Lynx with a LMG) and stabalised the Troll. Now again rolling
to see what happened to him he manages to secure 1 success
and looses his left leg.


Now at this point it gets interesting. I make some rolls and come
to the conclusion that his Street Doc can save 13% of the leg. I
told him this this morning and 4 hours ago he came to me asking
how much a (Please don't laugh) :


Armored.......





Motorised.......





Firm point Carrying (For his Enfield AS7).......






Rigger Adapted.......







Wheelchair


would be.


So that's the question.


How mush would a wheelchair in 2057 be considering:


a) It's armored

b) Motorised

c) Its got a firm Point

d) Rigger Adapted (So the rigger can remotly jack in to when the
troll does something else daft)

e) The troll in question is 3.5m+ tall and weighs in excess of a third
of a ton.


Responses would be greatly recieved

<nofill>
Message no. 2
From: Jason 'Ding' Dowd jdowd@****.edu
Subject: This One's a bit strange so bear with me
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:26:46 -0700
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At 09:02 AM 8/16/1999 , you wrote:
>
> How mush would a wheelchair in 2057 be considering:
>
> a) It's armored
> b) Motorised
> c) Its got a firm Point
> d) Rigger Adapted (So the rigger can remotly jack in to when the troll does
> something else daft)
> e) The troll in question is 3.5m+ tall and weighs in excess of a third of a
> ton.
>
> Responses would be greatly recieved


I made a paraplegic rigger once, who had a rigged wheelchair. I used the rules
in Rigger 2 to design a drone as his wheelchair. It was electric, had a
firmpoint with a Predator in it, and could do 60kph. Pretty amusing. :) I can't
find the build cost for it right now, but I think it was about 100k. Maybe a
little less. But he was a human, so a troll chair would probably cost more.

BTW, 3.5m+?? Is this guy trying to set a Guiness Record for tallest metahuman?

Jason 'Ding' Dowd
http://home.san.rr.com/jdowd
"There is no problem in this world that cannot be solved by the
judicious application of high explosives."
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At 09:02 AM 8/16/1999 , you wrote: <br>
<font color="#010101"><blockquote type=cite cite>How mush would a
wheelchair in 2057 be considering: <br>
<br>
a) It's armored <br>
b) Motorised <br>
c) Its got a firm Point <br>
d) Rigger Adapted (So the rigger can remotly jack in to when the troll
does something else daft) <br>
e) The troll in question is 3.5m+ tall and weighs in excess of a third of
a ton. <br>
<br>
Responses would be greatly recieved </blockquote><br>
I made a paraplegic rigger once, who had a rigged wheelchair. I used the
rules in Rigger 2 to design a drone as his wheelchair. It was electric,
had a firmpoint with a Predator in it, and could do 60kph. Pretty
amusing. :) I can't find the build cost for it right now, but I think it
was about 100k. Maybe a little less. But he was a human, so a&nbsp; troll
chair would probably cost more.<br>
<br>
BTW, 3.5m+?? Is this guy trying to set a Guiness Record for tallest
metahuman?<br>
</font><br>
<div>Jason 'Ding' Dowd</div>
<div><a href="http://home.san.rr.com/jdowd";
EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://home.san.rr.com/jdowd</a></div>;
<div>&quot;There is no problem in this world that cannot be solved by
the</div>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>judicious
application of high explosives.&quot;
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Message no. 3
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: This One's a bit strange so bear with me
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:45:17 EDT
In a message dated 8/16/1999 10:58:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
abenn@*****.net writes:

> o that's the question.
>
>
> How mush would a wheelchair in 2057 be considering:
> a) It's armored
> b) Motorised
> c) Its got a firm Point
> d) Rigger Adapted (So the rigger can remotly jack in to when the
> troll does something else daft)
> e) The troll in question is 3.5m+ tall and weighs in excess of a third
> of a ton.
> Responses would be greatly recieved


In the Rigger-2 book, there is a thing called a "Sidecar". I would suggest
using that as the basis, and remember that Sidecars have a vehicular body of
2.

-K
Message no. 4
From: IronRaven cyberraven@********.net
Subject: This One's a bit strange so bear with me
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:52:08 -0400
At 17.02 08-16-99 +0100, you wrote:
>How mush would a wheelchair in 2057 be considering:
>
>a) It's armored
>b) Motorised
>c) Its got a firm Point
>d) Rigger Adapted (So the rigger can remotly jack in to when the troll
>does something else daft)

Ohhh, boy. You have a lunatic on your hands.
I'd start the quotes at about 50K

>e) The troll in question is 3.5m+ tall and weighs in excess of a third of
>a ton.

That's kinda hefty, even for a troll. I also recommend some Slimfast.

BTW, why would he want a wheelchair? New legs are more common, I
wouldthink, and having known people in wheelchairs and been stuck in one
while my leg bones knitted once, they are a miserable thing to be stuck in.


Kevin Dole, aka CyberRaven, aka IronRaven, aka Steel Tengu
http://members.xoom.com/iron_raven/
"Once again, we have spat int he face of Death and his second cousin,
Dismemberment."
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your pholosophy."
Message no. 5
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: This One's a bit strange so bear with me
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:07:01 -0500
> >e) The troll in question is 3.5m+ tall and weighs in excess of a
> >third of a ton.
>
> That's kinda hefty, even for a troll. I also recommend some Slimfast.

Actually, it's virtually emaciated for a being of that size, with the kind
of muscle and bone mass a troll would possess. I wrote an article that
wound up in TSS #9 (http://shadowrun.html.com/tss/tss/09/index.htm) talking
about this sort of thing.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.

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