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Message no. 1
From: Brother Equine <equine@********.NET>
Subject: Those that want the SR life.
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:57:00 CDT
To those kids that can not wait until 2011...after the bombing in Oklahoma=

today you might not have to wait that long for the riots, deaths, and other=

carnage. It seems to be getting worse all over the world. Just hope you
can live through it long enough to get your wish to be the munchkin you
always wanted to be. Sure you may not get to see Ghouls, Orks, Dragons, and=

other paranormal creatures but you can still see the race wars, political
overthrows and other fun and exciting things. Hang on to your hats and make=

sure you have a shot in the chamber.

ED <the one who sees all>
Message no. 2
From: Bob Ooton <topcat@**.CENCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: Those that want the SR life.
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:25:16 -0500
> To those kids that can not wait until 2011...after the bombing in Oklahoma
>today you might not have to wait that long for the riots, deaths, and other
>carnage. It seems to be getting worse all over the world. Just hope you
>can live through it long enough to get your wish to be the munchkin you
>always wanted to be. Sure you may not get to see Ghouls, Orks, Dragons, and
>other paranormal creatures but you can still see the race wars, political
>overthrows and other fun and exciting things. Hang on to your hats and make
>sure you have a shot in the chamber.

At least in Shadowrun the act wouldn't go unanswered. Another reason why
I'm not sure why I'm an American citizen... the most powerful military in
the world and maybe we'll slap a 1-year trade embargo on some Middle Eastern
country that could care less (assuming that it is a Middle Eastern country
and not an internal thing or some other area, but the odds are kinda with
the ME thing). That'll teach 'em...uh-huh, yeahsureright. I just wonder
why we put up with that crap. Every time something like this happens, I
wonder if that whole desert should just be made a sea of glass...

I know a lot of you will disagree, feel free to. It's my opinion and
nothing more.


-- Bob Ooton <topcat@******.net>
Who would probably move to another country if he thought that it'd be any
different...
Message no. 3
From: Paul Jonathan Adam <Paul@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Those that want the SR life.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:41:51 GMT
> To those kids that can not wait until 2011...after the bombing in Oklahoma
> today you might not have to wait that long for the riots, deaths, and other
> carnage. It seems to be getting worse all over the world.
> ...but you can still see the race wars, political
> overthrows and other fun and exciting things. Hang on to your hats and make
> sure you have a shot in the chamber.

Try living in Europe in the 1970s. IRA, Red Brigade, ETA, Baader-Meinhof,
Red Army Faction, Corsican nationalists, Greece and Turkey nearly at war,
the fall of the Shah of Iran, Arab-Israeli wars, OPEC oil crisis in multiple
instalments, industrial unrest, rising nationalism...

It goes around and it comes around. It's starting to come to the States: here
you have our sympathy, but we've had terror groups blowing up children for
decades. There are no litter bins in any major railway stations or airports
in Britain, or in Oxford Street for that matter, because it was too easy
to hide bombs in them. This is bad news, but still old news.

And try living in Northern Ireland: the barricades are always ready to cordon
off streets in case of unrest, riot or explosion: and this is the nice
middle class neighbourhoods, not just Falls Road and the Shankill. Armed
police checkpoints stopping every vehicle? All over Northern Ireland. And if
you want to get into the City of London, persuade two policemen with Steyr-AUGs
that you deserve to get in.

Nothing new: just more of the same. Every age sees trouble today as the
imminent Apocalypse, but it's going to have to be much worse than this
before the four horsemen start revving up.


--
When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better or
for worse, you have acted decisively.
In fact, the next move is up to him.

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 4
From: Paul Jonathan Adam <Paul@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Those that want the SR life.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:31:41 GMT
<original snipped>
> At least in Shadowrun the act wouldn't go unanswered. Another reason why
> I'm not sure why I'm an American citizen... the most powerful military in
> the world and maybe we'll slap a 1-year trade embargo on some Middle Eastern
> country that could care less (assuming that it is a Middle Eastern country
> and not an internal thing or some other area, but the odds are kinda with
> the ME thing). That'll teach 'em...uh-huh, yeahsureright. I just wonder
> why we put up with that crap. Every time something like this happens, I
> wonder if that whole desert should just be made a sea of glass...
>
> I know a lot of you will disagree, feel free to. It's my opinion and
> nothing more.

Well.... I would hardly call Praying Mantis in 1986 "putting up with it"
and that was a discotheque in Germany, not central US. If solid proof
links an outside nation to the Oklahoma bomb I'd expect it to be raining high
explosives at a few military facilities there. Unfortunately finding enough
proof is going to be the hard part :-( But when proof has been there, the
US has acted pretty decisively in the past. Generally works, too. Apart
from the IRA we had very little terrorism after Princess Gate in 1980,
and attacks on US assets fell right off after 1986.

--
When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better or
for worse, you have acted decisively.
In fact, the next move is up to him.

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 5
From: Thomas R Gillette <ShadowG@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Those that want the SR life.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 14:43:54 -0400
Bob said>>
At least in Shadowrun the act wouldn't go unanswered. Another reason why
I'm not sure why I'm an American citizen... the most powerful military in
the world and maybe we'll slap a 1-year trade embargo on some Middle Eastern
country that could care less (assuming that it is a Middle Eastern country
and not an internal thing or some other area, but the odds are kinda with
the ME thing). That'll teach 'em...uh-huh, yeahsureright. I just wonder
why we put up with that crap. Every time something like this happens, I
wonder if that whole desert should just be made a sea of glass...

I know a lot of you will disagree, feel free to. It's my opinion and
nothing more.

What you say is true. Of course if these guys were shadowrunning types they
would probably have just stolen a vehicle instead of renting it. Even today,
it seems kinda dumb to use a renting vehicle. And then to rent it in your own
name too! Of course as soon as they gave them selves up, then the government
agents would geek em and there would be little more said of it. Untill the
the strike team hits those that contracted the job that is....

Pretty sad people are doing this kind of thing. I will likely never
understand them
Message no. 6
From: Bob Ooton <topcat@**.CENCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: Those that want the SR life.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 14:27:01 -0500
It appears my initial guesstimate as to who did the bombing was wrong.
Kudos to those who went the Branch Dravidian route (well, maybe... we can't
be sure until he's had a chance to find a legal loophole to use). Still
doesn't make me any less sick of people like that...

>Pretty sad people are doing this kind of thing. I will likely never
understand them

Yep... and more are born every minute. Might as well get used to seeing
that kinda thing.


-- Bob Ooton <topcat@******.net>
Who thinks burning at the stake should be mandated as the only form of the
death penalty...

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