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Message no. 1
From: Simon Nixon a_9365@*******.com
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:59:58 BST
Simon and Fiona wrote:

>what I really want to see is what is going on in Tibet.

Demonseed Elite's got something on Tibet. IIRC in Brainscan, the part he
wrote on collecting Aneki was meant to take place actually in Tibet, not
just some courtyard in Hong Kong- got cut for space I think, so he'd have to
have a pretty good idea about Tibet in general.

Last I heard though, it wasn't canon but Mike M. liked it. You could try
asking him really nicely for some stuff but I think he was planning to
submit it for Target: Awakened Lands, which is planned for 2002. Which means
he'll probably not be wanting to let too much out of the bag till then.
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Message no. 2
From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:12:35 -0500
From: "Simon Nixon" <a_9365@*******.com>
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)


> >what I really want to see is what is going on in Tibet.
>
> Demonseed Elite's got something on Tibet. IIRC in Brainscan, the part he
> wrote on collecting Aneki was meant to take place actually in Tibet, not
> just some courtyard in Hong Kong- got cut for space I think, so he'd have
to
> have a pretty good idea about Tibet in general.

Actually, last I knew the Brainscan material was written by Stephen Kenson,
not J. Levine (DE).

> Last I heard though, it wasn't canon but Mike M. liked it. You could try
> asking him really nicely for some stuff but I think he was planning to
> submit it for Target: Awakened Lands, which is planned for 2002. Which
means
> he'll probably not be wanting to let too much out of the bag till then.

That was from DE's own mentioning of it on the DSForums here recently (?).

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NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)
"Children of the Kernel: Reborn"
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Message no. 3
From: Atis Kleinbergs oogis@******.net
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:26:30 -0400
I apologize if I am putting my foot in my mouth, as I have not been
following the entire thread.

This isn't official SR material, but I thought it might be interesting
nonetheless. If you've been following the story concerning HavenCo, a
data-haven in the process of being put together off the western shore of
England IRL, they will be hosting the exiled presence of the Tibetan
government.

How fun is *that* for a SR extrapolation: Tibet as we know is subsumed by
China, and continues its existence as a virtual democracy from a sovereign
data haven in the Matrix.

Again, not canon, but a fun idea anyway.

Atis
----- Original Message -----
From: NeoJudas <neojudas@******************.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)


> From: "Simon Nixon" <a_9365@*******.com>
> Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
>
>
> > >what I really want to see is what is going on in Tibet.
> >
> > Demonseed Elite's got something on Tibet. IIRC in Brainscan, the part he
> > wrote on collecting Aneki was meant to take place actually in Tibet, not
> > just some courtyard in Hong Kong- got cut for space I think, so he'd
have
> to
> > have a pretty good idea about Tibet in general.
>
> Actually, last I knew the Brainscan material was written by Stephen
Kenson,
> not J. Levine (DE).
>
> > Last I heard though, it wasn't canon but Mike M. liked it. You could try
> > asking him really nicely for some stuff but I think he was planning to
> > submit it for Target: Awakened Lands, which is planned for 2002. Which
> means
> > he'll probably not be wanting to let too much out of the bag till then.
>
> That was from DE's own mentioning of it on the DSForums here recently (?).
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)
> "Children of the Kernel: Reborn"
> (neojudas@******************.com)
> Hoosier Hacker House (http://www.hoosierhackerhouse.com/)
>
>
>
>
>
Message no. 4
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 09:52:44 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Atis Kleinbergs <oogis@******.net>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Saturday, July 15, 2000 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)


>I apologize if I am putting my foot in my mouth, as I have not been
>following the entire thread.
>

Pfft! Since when has having no knowledge ever stopped anyone with a modem
expressing their opinion? :?)

>This isn't official SR material, but I thought it might be interesting
>nonetheless. If you've been following the story concerning HavenCo, a
>data-haven in the process of being put together off the western shore of
>England IRL, they will be hosting the exiled presence of the Tibetan
>government.
>
>How fun is *that* for a SR extrapolation: Tibet as we know is subsumed by
>China, and continues its existence as a virtual democracy from a sovereign
>data haven in the Matrix.
>
>Again, not canon, but a fun idea anyway.
>
>Atis


What we do know of Tibet is that it was closed off from the world very early
in the Awakening. Now, assuming the current Dalai Lama lives between 20 and
40 years longer (I don't know how old he is now), it is certain that he will
reincarnate within Tibet.
Of course, this is assuming Tibet in 206* is the way it is because of the
Lamas. As long as it isn't frigging elves or dragons again. Actually, trolls
would work well as a major proportion of the population, since they express
more in mountainous regions.
Message no. 5
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:10:05 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Nixon <a_9365@*******.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)


>Simon and Fiona wrote:
>
>>what I really want to see is what is going on in Tibet.
>
>Demonseed Elite's got something on Tibet. IIRC in Brainscan, the part he
>wrote on collecting Aneki was meant to take place actually in Tibet, not
>just some courtyard in Hong Kong- got cut for space I think, so he'd have
to
>have a pretty good idea about Tibet in general.
>
>Last I heard though, it wasn't canon but Mike M. liked it. You could try
>asking him really nicely for some stuff but I think he was planning to
>submit it for Target: Awakened Lands, which is planned for 2002. Which
means
>he'll probably not be wanting to let too much out of the bag till then.


2002? Man! I want my Australia sourcebook! I thought it was due later this
year. I'm a sobbing mess now.
I don't think I've ever seen Brainscan. Could I get more information please?
Message no. 6
From: Patrick Goodman pgoodman13@************.com
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:04:51 -0500
From: Simon and Fiona
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 7:10 PM

> >...I think he was planning to
> >submit it for Target: Awakened Lands, which is planned for 2002.
>
> 2002? Man! I want my Australia sourcebook! I thought it was due later
> this year. I'm a sobbing mess now.

Considering the current schedule and pace, Simon, my gut tells me that we're
looking at the early part of 2001, *maybe* the end of this year. We've got
to get YOTC out the door first, which means that we've got to get MATRIX
released and TARGET: MATRIX proofed and to the printers first.

--
Patrick E. Goodman
pgoodman13@************.com
"I'm going to tell you something cool." -- Gene Wolfe
http://communities.msn.com/ShadowrunDataHaven/
Message no. 7
From: Simon Nixon a_9365@*******.com
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:04:43 BST
NeoJudas wrote:

>Actually, last I knew the Brainscan material was written by Stephen
> >Kenson, not J. Levine (DE).

And,

>That was from DE's own mentioning of it on the DSForums here recently >(?).

Could of been. Did this mainly from memory, can't recall exactly where I
heard it- but I do lurk over on the DSForums so I could of heard it there.
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Message no. 8
From: Simon Nixon a_9365@*******.com
Subject: Tibet Question(was: SR and the Church)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:19:13 BST
I last wrote in reply to NeoJ:

>>That was from DE's own mentioning of it on the DSForums here recently
>> >(?).

>Could of been. Did this mainly from memory, can't recall exactly where I
>heard it- but I do lurk over on the DSForums so I could of >heard it there.

NeoJ, you were right. If anyone's still interested, follow the link below to
read the original version- as opposed to the demented ramblings from the
swiss cheese-like thing I call a memory. Enjoy.

http://forums.dumpshock.com//Forum13/HTML/000005.html
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