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From:	Chris Hayes <chris_hayes@*******.COM>
Subject:	Ties in combat...
Date:	Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:23:14 -0800

Message no. 1 The simple question is...what happens when you tie in ranged, melee, and
unarmed combat? This has been buggin us for days, and everyone has a
different interpretation on the rules. Can anybody help me with this?

Christopher Hayes
chris_hayes@*******.com

From:	David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject:	Re: Ties in combat...
Date:	Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:27:41 -0700

Message no. 2 Chris Hayes wrote:
/
/ The simple question is...what happens when you tie in ranged,
melee, and / unarmed combat? This has been buggin us for days, and
everyone has a / different interpretation on the rules. Can anybody
help me with this?

Okay, but keep in mind that this is yet another interpretation :)

I decide ties by Reaction. Lowest Reaction declares his action.
Highest Reaction declares his action and acts. Lowest reaction
acts.

In the case of a Reaction tie both characters write down their
declarations and then both character act simultaneously. If
simultaneous actions occur during melee combat niether character
can defend himself (because each character is attacking).

Have fun :)

(BTW Chris, your mailer is overriding the list's email address.
Check your reply-to option and disable it if you can.)

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From:	"David R. Lowe" <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Ties in combat...
Date:	Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:11:03 -0800

Message no. 3 >Chris Hayes wrote:
>/
>/ The simple question is...what happens when you tie in ranged,
>melee, and / unarmed combat? This has been buggin us for days, and
>everyone has a / different interpretation on the rules. Can anybody
>help me with this?
>

For Armed and Unarmed combat it's in the BBB, page 100:

"The character who rolls the most successes has hit his or her opponent. A
tie goes in favor of the attacker."

If you have equal sucesses in ranged combat, the weapon does base damage
(BBB p. 91).

Hope this helps.

D.

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From:	Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject:	Re: Ties in combat...
Date:	Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:16:19 +1000

Message no. 4 David R. Lowe writes:
>
>If you have equal sucesses in ranged combat, the weapon does base damage
>(BBB p. 91).

No you don't... why? Because ranged combat is not a Resisted Success Test,
so there's no ties to worry about.

Ranged combat is a standard test (for <Ranged Combat Skill>), followed by a
Damage Reduction test.

Melee combat is a resisted success test (for <attacker's melee skill> vs
<defender's melee skill>), followed by a Damage Reduction test for the poor
sap who got hurt. As stated already, in the resisted success test, a tie
means the attacker inflicts base damage on the defender.

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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Ties in combat...
Date:	Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:29:41 +0100

Message no. 5 Chris Hayes said on 12:23/ 9 Feb 98...

> The simple question is...what happens when you tie in ranged, melee, and
> unarmed combat? This has been buggin us for days, and everyone has a
> different interpretation on the rules. Can anybody help me with this?

In ranged combat, it's simple: the damage taken by the target is the base
for the weapon. For example, Jack shoots Jill with a Predator and gets
4 successes on his Firearms tst. Jill resists with her Body and Combat
Pool and also gets 4 successes => Jill takes a Moderate wound.

In melee and unarmed combat (which are basically the same), both attacker
and defender roll a skill test, and in case of a tie, the attacker hits.
The defender then gets to resist the resulting damage. If Jill now punches
Jack and rolls 2 successes on her Unarmed Combat, Jack must roll an
opposed test. He also gets 2 successes, so Jill hits. Jack now rolls a
Body test against Jill's (Str)M damage.

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From:	Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: Ties in combat...
Date:	Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:16:09 +0000

Message no. 6 And verily, did David R. Lowe hastily scribble thusly...
|"The character who rolls the most successes has hit his or her opponent. A
|tie goes in favor of the attacker."

Ooops. Looks like I was wrong there then....

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