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Message no. 1
From: Riffs <rivchin@****.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:29:57 EDT
Greetings fellow list-people,

My friend and I are working on a run which will include time travel.
We have worked out workable rules for the run, but I have some questions
about the history of Earth according to FASA.

What I know about Earthdawn is that it is considered the "fourth world" while
our present is considered the "fifth" and Shadowrun takes place in the
"sixth." Now, when does the fourth world end and the fifth begin? What
marks the beginning of the fifth? I believe that the sixth begins with the
Awakening, so I assume the fifth starts with some sort of event which causes
magic to leave. What is the year of the beginning of the fifth world?

This question arises because one of the organizations in the run who have
access to time travel has set up a base in the Oligocene period. I would
like to know if magic and/or people was around back then. If you came
across anything by FASA that would hint to the answers to my questions, or even
if you provide your opion on the matter it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
riffs
Message no. 2
From: Menard Steve <menars@***.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:50:50 -0400
On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Riffs wrote:

> Greetings fellow list-people,
>
> My friend and I are working on a run which will include time travel.
> We have worked out workable rules for the run, but I have some questions
> about the history of Earth according to FASA.
>
> What I know about Earthdawn is that it is considered the "fourth world"
while
> our present is considered the "fifth" and Shadowrun takes place in the
> "sixth." Now, when does the fourth world end and the fifth begin? What
> marks the beginning of the fifth? I believe that the sixth begins with the
> Awakening, so I assume the fifth starts with some sort of event which causes
> magic to leave. What is the year of the beginning of the fifth world?
>
> This question arises because one of the organizations in the run who have
> access to time travel has set up a base in the Oligocene period. I would
> like to know if magic and/or people was around back then. If you came
> across anything by FASA that would hint to the answers to my questions, or even
> if you provide your opion on the matter it would be greatly appreciated.

I do not have precise dates/years but I recall having read somewhere
that a magic "cycle" is around 3000 years. So the fifth world must have
begun somewhere arounf 1000 BC. Remember though that the magic level
arounf that time must have been comparable to SR, so the full Earthdawn
magic should not be used.

>
> Thanks,
> riffs
>

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Message no. 3
From: Lord Brian <peugh@********.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:17:51 -0500
Check out Paolo Marcucci's homepage. There is a whole section
devoted to Shadowrun/Earthdawn crossover info.
Brian.




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Message no. 4
From: Bona na Croin <MHILLIARD@****.ALBION.EDU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:33:59 -0500
I think I remember reading somewhere that the Fourth Age ended around
5000 BCE. That makes the technology in Earthdawn (like, steel) too high,
but this isn't the place to bring that up.
If you want, you can make it 10,000 BCE, which is supposedly when Atlantis
went down. That would cover the technological tracks, anyway.

=}
Ffelann the Undisciplined
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Message no. 5
From: NIGHTFOX <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:35:38 -0700
> I do not have precise dates/years but I recall having read somewhere
>that a magic "cycle" is around 3000 years. So the fifth world must have
>begun somewhere arounf 1000 BC. Remember though that the magic level
>arounf that time must have been comparable to SR, so the full Earthdawn
>magic should not be used.

Actually the cycle is around 5000 years +

putting the fall around 3000 BC - right at the begining of recorded history :)

interesting huh.

Nightfox
Message no. 6
From: Mark Steedman <RSMS@******.EEE.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:58:28 GMT
> From: Riffs <rivchin@****.RUTGERS.EDU>

> Greetings fellow list-people,
>
> My friend and I are working on a run which will include time travel.
> We have worked out workable rules for the run, but I have some questions
> about the history of Earth according to FASA.
>
> What I know about Earthdawn is that it is considered the "fourth world"
while
> our present is considered the "fifth" and Shadowrun takes place in the
> "sixth." Now, when does the fourth world end and the fifth begin? What
> marks the beginning of the fifth? I believe that the sixth begins with the
> Awakening, so I assume the fifth starts with some sort of event which causes
> magic to leave. What is the year of the beginning of the fifth world?
>
This was defined somewhere. The high magic age starts with the
emergence of the first dragon and ends when the last one goes to
sleep. Yes it's artificial but that is what FASA decided on as with
the rise being smooth the edge is a bit blurred so you cannot get a
definative answer to this one.

> This question arises because one of the organizations in the run who have
> access to time travel has set up a base in the Oligocene period. I would
> like to know if magic and/or people was around back then. If you came
> across anything by FASA that would hint to the answers to my questions, or even
> if you provide your opion on the matter it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> riffs
>
Ok the high and low mana cycles vary in length but assuming normality
the fourth and fifth ages were both about 5200 years long with
maximam and minima at the half way points.
The bugs should be on earth anytime at least 200 years into a mana
cycle and up to 200 years from the end. The horros can get though in
a window 300 years each side of the maxima though many of them can
survive on earth once through at much lower levels.
Note magical capability 50 years before the end of the fourth age
would be similar to SR appart from the more experienced magicians
would often be very high grade initiate.
Data out of 'Tell it to em straight' e.t.c. from Harlequins back.
This gives loads of info either you see it or 'explained by H!' and i
think he knows what he's on about!

Mark
Message no. 7
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:00:53 +0930
Riffs wrote:
>
> What I know about Earthdawn is that it is considered the "fourth world"
while
> our present is considered the "fifth" and Shadowrun takes place in the
> "sixth." Now, when does the fourth world end and the fifth begin? What
> marks the beginning of the fifth? I believe that the sixth begins with the
> Awakening, so I assume the fifth starts with some sort of event which causes
> magic to leave. What is the year of the beginning of the fifth world?

Well, the numbering is Mayan, and the Mayans have the worlds coming and
going every 6,500 years or so, I think (the figure is in one of the
sourcebooks, somewhere). Anyway, it fits in nicely into the Atlantean
legend... Plato was alive about 2500 years ago, me thinks (somewhere around
there, anyway... classical history was a long time ago for me), and even he
said that Atlantis was meant to have sunk a few thousand years before that.

So the sinking of Atlantis would be a good "keystone" event for the start
of the Fifth World.

Hmm... did you know that some biblical scholars place the age of the world
at about 6500 years? Maybe this Fifth World business is literal, not
symbolic. :)

--
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Message no. 8
From: Doctor Doom <jch8169@*******.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:28:20 -0500
Von Riffs:

> My friend and I are working on a run which will include time travel.
> We have worked out workable rules for the run, but I have some questions
> about the history of Earth according to FASA.

Could you elaborate as to the chronodynamic mechanic you shall employ
towards this end?

> What I know about Earthdawn is that it is considered the "fourth world"
while
> our present is considered the "fifth" and Shadowrun takes place in the
> "sixth." Now, when does the fourth world end and the fifth begin? What
> marks the beginning of the fifth? I believe that the sixth begins with the
> Awakening, so I assume the fifth starts with some sort of event which causes
> magic to leave. What is the year of the beginning of the fifth world?

Aha! A question regarding HISTORY ... *evil laughter*

(Pauses as he notes the balance of the list racing, screaming for cover)

A moment! It's merely a specific excerpt from a document which entails
particular dates for the above queries!

If one should consider Ehran the Scribe to be both a knowledgable and
trustworthy source regarding such matters, at least in the setting of
a lecture to the Young Elven Technologists (a full copy of the speech
as well as other hopefully intellectually and humorously stimulating
text may be found at my homeplage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~jch8169):

. . . Atlantis sank on August 12, 3113 BC, thus marking the end of
the Fourth World and the beginning of the Fifth. The Sixth World
began on December 12, 2011 AD, and will end, according to the
Mayan calendar, on April 4, 7137 AD. . . .

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Message no. 9
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:20:49 +0200
>Now, when does the fourth world end and the fifth begin?

Take around 5200 years per world and work some dates out is my advice.

>What marks the beginning of the fifth?

An even-numbered "world" ends when the last great dragon goes into
hibernation, and the next even-numbered one starts when the first great
dragon gets out of hibernation. At least, according to Ehran the Scribe :)

>This question arises because one of the organizations in the run who have
>access to time travel has set up a base in the Oligocene period. I would
>like to know if magic and/or people was around back then. If you came
>across anything by FASA that would hint to the answers to my questions, or even
>if you provide your opion on the matter it would be greatly appreciated.

No dates are mentioned except 24 december 2011, I think, and the date the
Sixth World will end (somewhere in the 73rd century, I think, but I can't
remember). As for people being around or not, I'd say dig up a history book
that deals with the time period.


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Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:22:41 +0200
>Well, the numbering is Mayan, and the Mayans have the worlds coming and
>going every 6,500 years or so, I think (the figure is in one of the

5200 I thought.

>Hmm... did you know that some biblical scholars place the age of the world
>at about 6500 years? Maybe this Fifth World business is literal, not
>symbolic. :)

The Jewish calender starts at around 5700 years ago, at "the beginning of
the world" according to the Torah (I think -- anyone know for sure?). FASA
explains this in Ehran's speech I believe, by saying that the humans'
important calenders all start within a few hundred years of each other, and
all near the end of the fourth world.


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Message no. 11
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:34:46 +0930
Doctor Doom wrote:
> > My friend and I are working on a run which will include time travel.
> > We have worked out workable rules for the run, but I have some questions
> > about the history of Earth according to FASA.
>
> Could you elaborate as to the chronodynamic mechanic you shall employ
> towards this end?

Everyone piles into this oldfashioned London Police phone booth, and then
this wheezing/groaning noise starts, and the next thing you know, you're
either where you wanted to go, or somewhere else entirely (50/50 chance).

Note: Oldfashioned London Police phone booths often appear as plot devices,
accompanied by any of seven (or is it eight, now?) different people, who in
turn may have numerous companions. Just watch out for the guy with the
really close cut diamond-shaped beard. (He's probably an Enemy Mage.)

--
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Message no. 12
From: P Ward <P.Ward@**.CF.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:28:50 BST
Robert Watkins wrote

> It's not a real word, he just made it up... :) (Pretty intutive, though.)


Well (to quote someone else) if it's not a real word, it should be.

Fits in well with existing examples, it _feels_ right.

That's exactly the rod I intend on using when my PC's finally discover
the archetpyical 'mad professor' they've been sent through the 'magical
portal' to find. thy're gonna kill me when they find out he's the annoying
'bumbling mage' archetype I've been usiong for three years in my **&*
campaign, not too mention the Vampire 'tactical-mystical-support' they've
been carrying round is really the campagin's arch-villain!

Phil
Message no. 13
From: P Ward <P.Ward@**.CF.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:29:16 BST
Police box. Pah, old-hat!

I use a big round thing with egyptian sigils round the edges, up in an
orbital research facility (just in case, so any magical 'explosion'
_shouldn't_ escape into the gaia-sphere).

Funnily enough, they arrived in a desert monument too! But there
aren't going to be any egyptian-style villains roaming around, no
matter how hard they look.

Phil (Renegade)
Message no. 14
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:42:15 +0930
P Ward wrote:
> That's exactly the rod I intend on using when my PC's finally discover
> the archetpyical 'mad professor' they've been sent through the 'magical
> portal' to find. thy're gonna kill me when they find out he's the annoying
> 'bumbling mage' archetype I've been usiong for three years in my **&*
> campaign, not too mention the Vampire 'tactical-mystical-support' they've
> been carrying round is really the campagin's arch-villain!

God, sounds like "Death Gate" series...

--
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are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
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Message no. 15
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@******.SGCL.LIB.MO.US>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:35:07 -0500
On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, P Ward wrote:

> Police box. Pah, old-hat!
>
> I use a big round thing with egyptian sigils round the edges, up in an
> orbital research facility (just in case, so any magical 'explosion'
> _shouldn't_ escape into the gaia-sphere).
>
> Funnily enough, they arrived in a desert monument too! But there
> aren't going to be any egyptian-style villains roaming around, no
> matter how hard they look.
>
> Phil (Renegade)
>
Oh please! The only time machine worth using is an old DeLorian with a
Mr. Fusion for power. Everyone knows that.

PAX
Mark Fender
Death
Scurge
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Message no. 16
From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:00:14 +0200
> > I use a big round thing with egyptian sigils round the edges, up in an
> > orbital research facility (just in case, so any magical 'explosion'
> > _shouldn't_ escape into the gaia-sphere).
> >
> > Funnily enough, they arrived in a desert monument too! But there
> > aren't going to be any egyptian-style villains roaming around, no
> > matter how hard they look.
> >
> > Phil (Renegade)
> >
> Oh please! The only time machine worth using is an old DeLorian with a
> Mr. Fusion for power. Everyone knows that.

Who said anything about a time-machine :) ?

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Message no. 17
From: Riffs <rivchin@****.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:37:58 EDT
Well to the Esteemed Doom's question regarding the "chronodynamic" whatever,
I will have to reply thus:

I haven't dealt with it explicitly yet. Like I said, I'm doing it with a
friend and we aren't finished yet. With that said, I'll tell you what we
have so far.
My friend is really into time travel (movies, books, TV shows, etc.) and
it was his idea to have a run based on time travel. I'm just the GM.
What we discussed about it was that the mechanism we'll be using is similar
to the one employed by the TV show "Quantum Leap." Except without the
holographic guide. In our run, it'll be some powerful technological break-
through which is in the hands of two power factions. One is called the
Preservationists. Their goal is to preserve the status quo of the current
timeline. The other group is called the Restorationists. It is made
up of various factions and organizations all of whom would benefit from
a united United States as of our present. They seek to change historical
events to prevent the Native Americans and other groups from breaking apart
the United States. It gets a bit complicated as to how they are going to
do it, but in the run that we are working on, they seek to eliminate an
ancestor of Redbourne (the guy who let the Native Americans into the missle
center and started the Lone Eagle crisis if I'm not mistaken) at the
historical battle of Custer's Last Stand.

Like I said it's a bit complicated, so if anyone has any questions fire away.
My friend is a poli-sci major and has no real interest in the scientific
aspects, so we are just going to leave it vague. If we could say exactly
how time travel is possible, than why doesn't it exist today? We just
want to deal with the implementations and effects of time travel in our
runs, not the technobabble which causes it. Basically, it's a technology
available to only these two factions, and we're going to explore the
possibilities of what they're going to do with it. If anyone can provide
a solution to the scientific problem, I'll work it into the run.

Also, we have considered the possible negative side effects of having
runners amok in the past, so we have not given the runners access to
time travel. They will be puppets of the Preservationists sent to stop
the Restorationists' group sent back to kill Redbourne's ancestor.
The runners won't have access to any sort of transportation more than horses
and the run has a time restriction of a dozen hours or so and the battle
takes place in a relatively isolated area, so the runners can't go too far.
They will also be monitored of course, and the threat of a cortex bomb
going off should keep the runners in line and focused on their mission.

While I'm on the subject, I have a few more questions:

1) What exactly was the reason for the formation of the seccesion of the
Southern States of America? Slavery still can't be the reason.
2) Can someone come up with rules for the type of weaponry that the
cavalry under Custer used. Did they have the Gattling gun, for example?
I'm not to keen on my military weaponry history. What kind of weapons
did the U.S. Cavalry have at that time?

Thanks for all your help, everyone.


----------riffs "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so, Brain, but where will we find a
duck and a hose at this hour?"
Message no. 18
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.COM>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:35:40 -0400
On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Riffs wrote:

> 1) What exactly was the reason for the formation of the seccesion of the
> Southern States of America? Slavery still can't be the reason.

Never was...but that's another issue.
I beleive it is a difference of culture -- in many ways, we can
see it even today. To grossly overgeneralize, you've got the gun-toting
Republicans in the American South, griping about so-called liberals and
overgovernmentalization (not that overgovernmentalization is solely due to
the so-called liberals, but that's another issue as well.)

> 2) Can someone come up with rules for the type of weaponry that the
> cavalry under Custer used. Did they have the Gattling gun, for example?
> I'm not to keen on my military weaponry history. What kind of weapons
> did the U.S. Cavalry have at that time?

I know they still carried swords. *grin* They were mostly for
decoration, but you could have a lot of fun with that anyway. Remember,
in 2056 people really only have swords if they're magically delicious.

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Message no. 19
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@******.SGCL.LIB.MO.US>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:28:07 -0500
On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, J.D. Falk wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Riffs wrote:
>
> > 1) What exactly was the reason for the formation of the seccesion of the
> > Southern States of America? Slavery still can't be the reason.
>
> Never was...but that's another issue.
> I beleive it is a difference of culture -- in many ways, we can
> see it even today. To grossly overgeneralize, you've got the gun-toting
> Republicans in the American South, griping about so-called liberals and
> overgovernmentalization (not that overgovernmentalization is solely due to
> the so-called liberals, but that's another issue as well.)
Um, sorry but the Republican screwed the South (according to them) after
the Civil War. Took away all their "freedom." Alabam elected its first
Republicangovernor since the end of the Civil War a few years ago. (Had
to sit through Alabama History twice so I've had this pumped into my
brain too much.) Teh south is *violently* anit-Repub.

>
> > 2) Can someone come up with rules for the type of weaponry that the
> > cavalry under Custer used. Did they have the Gattling gun, for example?
> > I'm not to keen on my military weaponry history. What kind of weapons
> > did the U.S. Cavalry have at that time?
>
> I know they still carried swords. *grin* They were mostly for
> decoration, but you could have a lot of fun with that anyway. Remember,
> in 2056 people really only have swords if they're magically delicious.
>
> -------------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk@****.com> =========-------------
> | "When that what now is yet to be has come to pass, |
> | thou shalt realize that thy existance 'tis merely another |
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> | --Pink Floyd (paraphrased) |
> --------========== http://www.cais.com/jdfalk/home.html ==========--------
>
Message no. 20
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:27:50 +0200
>2) Can someone come up with rules for the type of weaponry that the
> cavalry under Custer used. Did they have the Gattling gun, for example?
> I'm not to keen on my military weaponry history. What kind of weapons
> did the U.S. Cavalry have at that time?

This is not my era, really, but I believe Custer's men used Sharpe carbines
(one-shot breech-loaders), revolvers, knives, and cavalry sabers, mainly. I
doubt Custer would have had Gatling guns at Little Big Horn (that's what
you're aiming at, isn't it?), because he'd left behind the heavy equipment
and part of his unit so he could travel faster (I think).


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Message no. 21
From: David Hinkley <dhinkley@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: timeline for SR/Earthdawn
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:33:35 -0700
> While I'm on the subject, I have a few more questions:
>
> 1) What exactly was the reason for the formation of the seccesion of the
> Southern States of America? Slavery still can't be the reason.

The quick short answer (the long answer took my Civil War and
Reconstruction professor the better part of a semester) is States Rights.
Slavery in the form of whether a balance of slave and non-slave states
would be maintained with the admission of new states to the republic, was
the most visible manifstation of this question.


> 2) Can someone come up with rules for the type of weaponry that the
> cavalry under Custer used. Did they have the Gattling gun, for example?
> I'm not to keen on my military weaponry history. What kind of weapons
> did the U.S. Cavalry have at that time?
>
The offical issue individual weapons were the Colt Single Action
Army Pistol (the classic six-shooter) in 45 cal, Springfield Trapdoor
Carbine (single shoot breach-loader) in .45-70 and a saber. Officers
supplied their weapons and some NCOs and troopers also supplmented the
issue weapons. As to the Gatling Gun the Artillery Battery attached to
the 7th Cav had Gatlings but Custer left them behind because they would
slow him down.

David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org

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