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Message no. 1
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:35:14 -0500
>Suggestions on how to deal with this? Are there some armor-ablative rules
>I'm not aware of that might help?

Get around the armor, and/or his body.
Here's a few suggestions ...

1. Gas weapons - Have the sec goons equipped with gasmasks.
2. DMSO + Neurostun - Goes right through most armors, and into the
bloodstream very quickly. (Make sure you don't let him use Body increases
from Muscle Aug/Rep, or Dermal Armor to resist poison.
3. Spells that target Willpower.
4. Netguns.
5. Hand to Hand - Make sure you use the friends in melee rule! A few muscled
up sammys with dikoted katana's and the FIM rule will make him sweat.
6. Pit traps - Stick him in a great big hole. Make the walls VERY tough to
climb, and the problem is over. For extra fun have a speaker announce that
he will be released from the pit after removing his armor and weapons and
placing them in the secure locker provided. ;-)
7. Flash Paks - a blind troll has a lot harder time dodging. (eliminate
combat pool, and increase target number as well!)
8. Sucker Punch - Have the goons surrender, then when the trog lets his
guard down, the plug him point blank with a hidden weapon (poison works well
here too!)
9. Acid - Dissolve that armor right off him.
10. Flame Weapons - Have the sec goons withdraw, and flood the hallway with
napalm/flamethrowers! Toasty!

Hope these help.

Steven A. Tinner - Rascal King
bluewizard@*****.com
http://listen.to/Tinner
"We hole up in the gasworks and tell the police we want a tank full of
axolotls and David Bowie's autograph, or the Japanese tourists get it."
Message no. 2
From: Michael Orion Jackson <orion@****.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:05:20 -0600
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Steven A. Tinner wrote:

[snip]
> 7. Flash Paks - a blind troll has a lot harder time dodging. (eliminate
> combat pool, and increase target number as well!)
[snip]

This would be especially humorous if applied in some locale that contained
fragile objects.... (like a china shop).

:^)

*FLASH*Waaaaaaargh!*stumble**smashsmashsmashsmashsmash*

> Steven A. Tinner - Rascal King
> bluewizard@*****.com
> http://listen.to/Tinner
> "We hole up in the gasworks and tell the police we want a tank full of
> axolotls and David Bowie's autograph, or the Japanese tourists get it."
>

*****************Michael Orion Jackson******************
***********TAMS Class of 96/UT Class of 2000************
*********************Random Quote:**********************
*Chemistry is not for the soft-brained or weak-hearted.*
********************************************************
Message no. 3
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:09:07 -0700
For the mere cost of a Thaum, Steven A. Tinner wrote:
/
/ >Suggestions on how to deal with this? Are there some armor-ablative rules
/ >I'm not aware of that might help?
/
/ Get around the armor, and/or his body.
/ Here's a few suggestions ...
/
/ 1. Gas weapons - Have the sec goons equipped with gasmasks.

Ack, how could I have forgotten about Gas? <admonishes self>

Here's an evil idea. Cast control thoughts/actions on the troll and
turn him against his fellow runners. After it's all over the other PC
will probably have a few words to say about the troll's armor level
<EGMG>.

-David B.
--
"Earn what you have been given."
--
email: dbuehrer@******.carl.org
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Message no. 4
From: "D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:25:20 -0600
For the mere cost of 2 Thaums (Damn Inflation) David Buehrer wrote:
<SNIP>
>Here's an evil idea. Cast control thoughts/actions on the troll and
>turn him against his fellow runners. After it's all over the other PC
>will probably have a few words to say about the troll's armor level
><EGMG>.

What about using the Influence spell in Grimoire to extract revenge.
"You want to become a Prima Balerina"
"You've always found <insert male teammate> attractive"
"Streaking Lone Star HQ would be fun"
"Becoming a Eunuch will make you a better Shadowrunner"
Get creative :)

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
"Coffee without caffeine is like sex without the spanking." -- Cupid
re-cur-sion (ri-kur'-zhen) noun. 1. See recursion.

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Message no. 5
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:02:19 -0700
For the mere cost of a Thaum, D. Ghost wrote:
/
/ What about using the Influence spell in Grimoire to extract revenge.

/ "Streaking Lone Star HQ would be fun"

LOL!

/ Get creative :)

Which will solve any problem :)

-David B.
--
"Earn what you have been given."
--
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Message no. 6
From: Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:42:25 -0600
:What about using the Influence spell in Grimoire to extract revenge.
:"You want to become a Prima Balerina"
:"You've always found <insert male teammate> attractive"
:"Streaking Lone Star HQ would be fun"
:"Becoming a Eunuch will make you a better Shadowrunner"
:Get creative :)


Revenge for what? The only example seemed an ordinary security
situation; security mages don't waste time sustaining spells that have
high drain (and, in SR3, a threshold) long enough to make them permanent.

Mongoose
Message no. 7
From: Drew Curtis <dcurtis@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:45:32 -0500
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Mongoose wrote:

> :What about using the Influence spell in Grimoire to extract revenge.
> :"You want to become a Prima Balerina"
> :"You've always found <insert male teammate> attractive"
> :"Streaking Lone Star HQ would be fun"
> :"Becoming a Eunuch will make you a better Shadowrunner"
> :Get creative :)
>
> Revenge for what? The only example seemed an ordinary security
> situation; security mages don't waste time sustaining spells that have
> high drain (and, in SR3, a threshold) long enough to make them permanent.
>

Yes it was an ordinary, the guys the troll was fighting were your basic
goons.

Drew Curtis, President, Digital Crescent, Incorporated
http://www.dcr.net (502) 226 3376 Internet and Software Design services.
Offering dial-up Access from Frankfort to Louisville and all points between.
Message no. 8
From: Hatchetman <hatchet@*********.BC.CA>
Subject: Re: Tinner's guide to waxing the Heavies (Was - Troll Sam: 14str
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:55:26 -0800
> Yes it was an ordinary, the guys the troll was fighting were your basic
> goons.
>
> Drew Curtis, President, Digital Crescent, Incorporated
> http://www.dcr.net (502) 226 3376 Internet and Software Design services.
> Offering dial-up Access from Frankfort to Louisville and all points
between.

That brings up a thought that we didn't really delve into. What were the
stats of the guys shooting at the troll, and the stats of their weapons?

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