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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Wed Feb 7 12:50:01 2001
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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kevin Harrison)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Wed Feb 7 13:15:00 2001
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:13:41 +0000, seoremove@*********.net wrote:

>Submission alone is not enough!
>Many web hosting companies and site submission services offer to
>submit your web site to hundreds, even thousands of search
>engines on the Web.

WTF? Someone needs to put a Trace&Burn on this address! ;)

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Damn opt-outs... I'm guessing the Admins will have to take care of this?
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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Spike)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Wed Feb 7 22:30:00 2001
And verily, didst Kevin Harrison babble thusly...
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:13:41 +0000, seoremove@*********.net wrote:
>
> >Submission alone is not enough!
> >Many web hosting companies and site submission services offer to
> >submit your web site to hundreds, even thousands of search
> >engines on the Web.
>
> WTF? Someone needs to put a Trace&Burn on this address! ;)

Sod trace and burn... This one needs a dose of the blackest black ICE you
can muster.

Fry his brain, not his deck.

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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Nexx)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Wed Feb 7 22:45:00 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Spike"

> > WTF? Someone needs to put a Trace&Burn on this address! ;)
>
> Sod trace and burn... This one needs a dose of the blackest black ICE you
> can muster.
>
> Fry his brain, not his deck.

Yes, Spike, but remember that Black IC against a tortoise (which his
computer is) will only kick him off... Trace and Burn will melt it down.
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Iridios)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Wed Feb 7 22:55:00 2001
Spike wrote:

> Sod trace and burn... This one needs a dose of the blackest black ICE you
> can muster.
>
> Fry his brain, not his deck.

Ahhh... Leave the poor 'bot alone. It's programmer is obviously
defective. :)


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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Scott W)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Wed Feb 7 23:50:00 2001
> Yes, Spike, but remember that Black IC against a tortoise (which
his computer is) will only kick him off... Trace and Burn will melt
it down.

And then you know where it originated so you can go to their
corporate office and REMOVE A TOENAIL FOR EVERY SPAM LETTER YOU'VE
EVER GOTTEN!!! (Be a lot of hobbling marketing execs after I got through.)

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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Phaedyme)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 06:35:01 2001
Kevin Harrison wrote:
>
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:13:41 +0000, seoremove@*********.net wrote:
>
> >Submission alone is not enough!
> >Many web hosting companies and site submission services offer to
> >submit your web site to hundreds, even thousands of search
> >engines on the Web.
>
> WTF? Someone needs to put a Trace&Burn on this address! ;)

Spammers have recently figured out that the best way to get as many
people as possible is to spam *mailing lists*. It's really sad and
pathetic, and shows just how undersocialized most of the human race
seems to be...sigh.

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Message no. 8
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Spike)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 16:50:01 2001
And verily, didst Phaedyme babble thusly...
>
>
> Kevin Harrison wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:13:41 +0000, seoremove@*********.net wrote:
> >
> > >Submission alone is not enough!
> > >Many web hosting companies and site submission services offer to
> > >submit your web site to hundreds, even thousands of search
> > >engines on the Web.
> >
> > WTF? Someone needs to put a Trace&Burn on this address! ;)
>
> Spammers have recently figured out that the best way to get as many
> people as possible is to spam *mailing lists*. It's really sad and
> pathetic, and shows just how undersocialized most of the human race
> seems to be...sigh.

What these spammers don't know is, that by posting here, they automatically
agree to all posting guidelines. Amongst these guidelines is the "spamming
clause" which means they are now obligated to pay dumpshock.com 1000 dollars
for every spam...

:)

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|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| |
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Message no. 9
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Nexx)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 17:00:01 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Spike"

> What these spammers don't know is, that by posting here, they
automatically
> agree to all posting guidelines. Amongst these guidelines is the "spamming
> clause" which means they are now obligated to pay dumpshock.com 1000
dollars
> for every spam...

Now then, the question is how do you interpret it... every Spam _sent_, or
every Spam _received_?
Message no. 10
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 19:25:01 2001
At 06:30 PM 2/8/2001 +0000, Spike wrote:
>
>What these spammers don't know is, that by posting here, they automatically
>agree to all posting guidelines. Amongst these guidelines is the "spamming
>clause" which means they are now obligated to pay dumpshock.com 1000 dollars
>for every spam...
>

/sarcasm
Gee, Spike, that sounds all really evil and nasty and sure to stop spammers
and everything....

/sarcasm off


Good luck on trying to collect.


Dave
Message no. 11
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Alfredo B Alves)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 19:25:13 2001
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 03:30:40 +0000 (GMT) Spike <spike1@*******.co.uk>
writes:
> And verily, didst Kevin Harrison babble thusly...
> > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:13:41 +0000, seoremove@*********.net wrote:
> >
> > >Submission alone is not enough!
> > >Many web hosting companies and site submission services offer to
<SNIP>
> Sod trace and burn... This one needs a dose of the blackest black
> ICE you
> can muster.
>
> Fry his brain, not his deck.

You're making a big assumption Spike ... :)

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Message no. 12
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Spike)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 22:50:01 2001
And verily, didst Alfredo B Alves babble thusly...
> > Fry his brain, not his deck.
>
> You're making a big assumption Spike ... :)

Yes... I forgot we hadn't reached a level of technology required to isolate
an object so small.... My mistake...

:)
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Message no. 13
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Spike)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 22:50:04 2001
And verily, didst Nexx babble thusly...
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Spike"
>
> > What these spammers don't know is, that by posting here, they
> automatically
> > agree to all posting guidelines. Amongst these guidelines is the "spamming
> > clause" which means they are now obligated to pay dumpshock.com 1000
> dollars
> > for every spam...
>
> Now then, the question is how do you interpret it... every Spam _sent_, or
> every Spam _received_?
>

I think that's up to Adam and Mark to interpret...
:)
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|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| |
| in | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
| Computer Science | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 14
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Thu Feb 8 23:20:01 2001
On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 03:12:26 -0800 Phaedyme <xenya@********.com> writes:
> Spammers have recently figured out that the best way to get as many
> people as possible is to spam *mailing lists*. It's really sad and
> pathetic, and shows just how undersocialized most of the human race
> seems to be...sigh.
>

See, I just don't see how Spam is enticing to people though. I mean, how
many of the people on the list are now running to sign up for whatever
the email was selling/ proposing?

I came home, and there was a message on my answering machine, some bank
computer, calling to, well, spam me in an attempt to get me to open an
account.
Does this really WORK? are there people out there going "oh, I've GOT to
get in on this"?

Forget it, rhetorical question, I just don't get it...

Vocenoctum
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Message no. 15
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Fri Feb 9 05:55:00 2001
According to vocenoctum@****.com, on Fri, 09 Feb 2001 the word on the
street was...

> See, I just don't see how Spam is enticing to people though. I mean, how
> many of the people on the list are now running to sign up for whatever
> the email was selling/ proposing?

It's exactly the same as the stacks of advertisement flyers that get put
into your snail-mail box every week, isn't it? Millions (if not billions)
are spent printing those damn things, distributing them, and then recycling
them so the whole thing can start all over again, but only a small number
of people will actually buy anything that's in them, let alone rush to the
store for something they saw in one of those flyers. Spam gets an even
lower return rate, but it's also much cheaper...

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Message no. 16
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Mike and Jill Johnson)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Fri Feb 9 10:55:01 2001
At 11:25 AM 2/9/01 +0100, you wrote:

>It's exactly the same as the stacks of advertisement flyers that get put
>into your snail-mail box every week, isn't it? Millions (if not billions)
>are spent printing those damn things, distributing them, and then recycling
>them so the whole thing can start all over again, but only a small number
>of people will actually buy anything that's in them, let alone rush to the
>store for something they saw in one of those flyers. Spam gets an even
>lower return rate, but it's also much cheaper...
>
>--
>Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html


You gotta admit though. It has generated a lot of response on the list.

Mike
Message no. 17
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Alfredo B Alves)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Fri Feb 9 11:35:05 2001
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:08:15 -0700 Mike and Jill Johnson
<shadowrn@******.net> writes:
<SNIP>
> You gotta admit though. It has generated a lot of response on the
> list.

I think there's a saying that "there is no bad publicity" ... However, I
couldn't tell you who spammed us or specifically about what ...

so ... err... *checks list purpose* ... uhm... what if a Johnson ... I
know! What if a Johnson arranged a run just because ABC corp spammed him
back 2044? :)

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Message no. 18
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Nexx)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Fri Feb 9 14:45:00 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike and Jill Johnson"
>
>
> You gotta admit though. It has generated a lot of response on the list.

Sure... but what was he selling?
Message no. 19
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Steve Collins)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Fri Feb 9 17:10:01 2001
On 2/9/01 2:35 pm, Nexx said:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike and Jill Johnson"
>>
>>
>> You gotta admit though. It has generated a lot of response on the list.
>
>Sure... but what was he selling?
>
>
>


In this case I don't think he was actually targeting us but rather the
folks who run Dumpshock.com.

It seemed to be a Search Engine type site that was looking for people to
pay to come up in advantageous positions on searches at their site.

Steve
Message no. 20
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Dan Grabon)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Fri Feb 9 20:35:05 2001
On 2/10/01 8:22 AM, Steve Collins at einan@*********.net wrote:

> In this case I don't think he was actually targeting us but rather the
> folks who run Dumpshock.com.
>
> It seemed to be a Search Engine type site that was looking for people to
> pay to come up in advantageous positions on searches at their site.

Yup... we got the same spam at a site that I manage. grrr.

-moose

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Message no. 21
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Top 10 positions. GUARANTEED!
Date: Sat Feb 10 21:35:01 2001
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:25:08 +0100 Gurth <Gurth@******.nl> writes:
> According to vocenoctum@****.com, on Fri, 09 Feb 2001 the word on the
> street was...
>
> > See, I just don't see how Spam is enticing to people though. I
> mean, how
> > many of the people on the list are now running to sign up for
> whatever
> > the email was selling/ proposing?
>
> It's exactly the same as the stacks of advertisement flyers that get
> put
> into your snail-mail box every week, isn't it?

But, these mail-order companies don't hide their addresses.
The Spam is usually rerouted so you can't reply if you wanted to...

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