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Message no. 1
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Torn Muscles (was Re: Trolls and Cars)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:11:16 -0400
At 09:02 PM 4/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Jessica Grota wrote:
>Oh great. She made it...
>
>And the female populaion of ShadowRN is up one more. (Which makes it what,
>three? Four?) I'm surprised the boys on the list aren't on better behaviour.
>*grin*

Why? ;-)

Besides, I keep hearing that "chicks" dig "bad boys"... ;-)

>On the muscle thing, if someone was to lift more weight (a *lot* more) than
>they normally could, there's an excellent chance they could sever the muscle
>tissue connecting to the breastbone, which iirc, is quite fragile. (well,
>compared to the midsection of the muscle...)

Actually, this is the sort of thing that happens with steroid/growth
hormone usage.

Your normal muscles are usually in-synch with the other connective tissues,
like tendons and ligaments. But if your muscles suddenly start growing
much faster than the tendons can keep up, you discover that you really
can't lift massive amounts of iron without tearing up your body.

Which, for the rare one or two of you on RN that pay attention to such
things and will recognize the name, is my odds-on guess as to why Dorian
keeps bumping up against soft-tissue injuries. Combine a fanatic lifting
style with massive amounts of growth drugs and that's a recipe for either
hugeness or soft-tissue injuries.

Truthfully, I find it odd, and always have, that steroids and the like
aren't more popular in the gutters of SR. Muscle replacements and the like
are somewhat expensive, especially compared to how 'roids and it's
companion drugs would be so cheap. I don't know, but I'd think that there
would be CP2020-style booster gangs, jacked up on cocaine, steroids, and
the occassionaly combat drug that could open serious cans of whoop-ass on
defenseless people. Factor in crap like angel dust...that's obviously a
recipe for a very short life, but those booster gangers would be *Nasty*...

Erik J.


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Message no. 2
From: JD <germany@*****************.COM>
Subject: Re: Torn Muscles (was Re: Trolls and Cars)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:52:59 -0600
>Truthfully, I find it odd, and always have, that steroids and the like
>aren't more popular in the gutters of SR. Muscle replacements and the
like
>are somewhat expensive, especially compared to how 'roids and it's
>companion drugs would be so cheap. I don't know, but I'd think that
there
>would be CP2020-style booster gangs, jacked up on cocaine, steroids,
and
>the occassionaly combat drug that could open serious cans of whoop-ass
on
>defenseless people. Factor in crap like angel dust...that's obviously
a
>recipe for a very short life, but those booster gangers would be
*Nasty*...
>
>Erik J.


I would hope that the reason there isn't much done on drugs and the like
is that things of that nature are more likely to influence an
impressionable youth than cyberware and even big guns. Drug use in
Shadowrun could easily be a big negative marketing tool against
Shadowrun and RPG's in general. (And we don't need more of that.)

Jon Doud
germany@*****************.com
Message no. 3
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Torn Muscles (was Re: Trolls and Cars)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:19:36 -0600
At 12:52 27/04/98 -0600, you wrote:

>I would hope that the reason there isn't much done on drugs and the like
>is that things of that nature are more likely to influence an
>impressionable youth than cyberware and even big guns. Drug use in
>Shadowrun could easily be a big negative marketing tool against
>Shadowrun and RPG's in general. (And we don't need more of that.)

You know, the more I play RPG's and think about how their worlds work, the
less I give a rats ass about pleasing a bunch of people who aren't even
going to play the damn games anyways, and wouldn't care if they were
Candyland with books and D20's

I care about what MY gamers think of my game, and what I think of it. If
that means the characters are chipped out pot smoking anal sex fiends, and
we enjoy it, then so be it.

What's worse: Snorting coke or killing a person? I know what I would
rather do (In theory, having done neither), I would know what I would
rather my best friend do, I know what I would rather see on TV or when at a
party, etc.

If we aren't pushing the envelope, what the hell are we doing?

-Adam J

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Message no. 4
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Torn Muscles (was Re: Trolls and Cars)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:38:25 +0000
On 27 Apr 98 at 13:11, Erik Jameson wrote:

> Truthfully, I find it odd, and always have, that steroids and the like
> aren't more popular in the gutters of SR. Muscle replacements and the like
> are somewhat expensive, especially compared to how 'roids and it's
> companion drugs would be so cheap. I don't know, but I'd think that there
> would be CP2020-style booster gangs, jacked up on cocaine, steroids, and
> the occassionaly combat drug that could open serious cans of whoop-ass on
> defenseless people. Factor in crap like angel dust...that's obviously a
> recipe for a very short life, but those booster gangers would be *Nasty*...

Been there, done that, nearly killed the PCs...
Serious, that stuff fits the overall athmosphere of SR very well. And it
keeps the PCs paranoid. Is that all-leather-guy with the red nose just some
half-drunk freak, or has he more speed, PCP and cocain in his bloodstream
then a juggernaut could handle? Imagine how your PCs react, when that
little punk gives them a strength 8 punch, although they thought he'd have
4 max. There are some funny things you can make with some mushrooms and
herbs (I remember something about a certain mixture that causes people to
move so fast, they damage their muscles).
Maybe I write some booster-drugs down....if I find the time....

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx
ICQ: 9293066

A society without religion is like a crazed psychopath without a loaded .45

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