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Message no. 1
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Trolls shamans, mages and deckers...oh my.:)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 01:01:47 -0500 (EST)
>Hmmm.... Has anyone here EVER played a Troll as anything other than a
>big blunt instrument??? It'd certainly be a challenging (and very
>handicapped) character if you wanted to be a mage or decker.
>
I tried making a troll shaman once, and actually managed tomake him, but he
was pretty weak to start. The penalties they get, compounded by the fact
that Priority A and B are taken up already, leaving your cash, skill, and
attributes in the lurch makes it darn near impossible. I made him, but gave
him up quickly as a lost cause...



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chaos@*****.com
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Message no. 2
From: MENARD Steve <menars@***.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Re: Trolls shamans, mages and deckers...oh my.:)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:37:24 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:

> >Hmmm.... Has anyone here EVER played a Troll as anything other than a
> >big blunt instrument??? It'd certainly be a challenging (and very
> >handicapped) character if you wanted to be a mage or decker.
> >
> I tried making a troll shaman once, and actually managed tomake him, but he
> was pretty weak to start. The penalties they get, compounded by the fact
> that Priority A and B are taken up already, leaving your cash, skill, and
> attributes in the lurch makes it darn near impossible. I made him, but gave
> him up quickly as a lost cause...
>
AS you can see by my sig, I played troll deckers (that was before AND
after VR2.0 came out). In fact, I played two of those. The first as a
regular NPC and the other as a PC. They were both fun. althoug they have
it a little rougher than other races (low intelligence, which began
affecting him after vr2).

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Message no. 3
From: Edward Paul <doyle@******.edu>
Subject: Re: Trolls shamans, mages and deckers...oh my.:)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:22:18 -1000
On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, MENARD Steve wrote:
> >
> AS you can see by my sig, I played troll deckers (that was before AND
> after VR2.0 came out). In fact, I played two of those. The first as a
> regular NPC and the other as a PC. They were both fun. althoug they have
> it a little rougher than other races (low intelligence, which began
> affecting him after vr2).

Get some nuyen to buy an encephalon and a cerebral booster. That
should more than even the odds. With a possible 11 Body, Black IC will
have a tough time with him/her. Of course, you could through in some
allergies to boost up any attributes or skills that are low in the
beginning...

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Edward Paul University of Hawaii at Manoa
E-Mail: doyle@******.edu
World Wide Web: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~doyle
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Message no. 4
From: "Norbert G. Matausch (BulletShower)" <NMATAUSC@****.cip.fak14.uni-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Trolls shamans, mages and deckers...oh my.:)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:58:59 +1000
Hio all!
On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:
> I tried making a troll shaman once, and actually managed tomake him, but he
> was pretty weak to start. The penalties they get, compounded by the fact
> that Priority A and B are taken up already, leaving your cash, skill, and
> attributes in the lurch makes it darn near impossible. I made him, but gave
> him up quickly as a lost cause...


NoOOOOOOOO, that's not true! Give 'em a chance, boys!

I'm into roleplaying since 1984, and while in the early days I kinda
"competed" with my players, I have learned that playing with the PCs
is the real fun. One player of mine did just the same you did, he
played a troll shaman. He *did* have extreme penalties sometimes, and
he started with not much more than dirt under his fingernails, but he
had fun! Why? Because he really identified wit the character, and
because I let him go with that!

I think you didn't give your troll (may he RIP) a real chance.
That, or your GM was the kind of rules-lawyer and joy-killer every
*role*player hates. Sob. Sob. Sob.


BulletShower
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Message no. 5
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: Trolls shamans, mages and deckers...oh my.:)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:43:08 -0500 (EST)
>NoOOOOOOOO, that's not true! Give 'em a chance, boys!
>
>I'm into roleplaying since 1984, and while in the early days I kinda
>"competed" with my players, I have learned that playing with the PCs
>is the real fun. One player of mine did just the same you did, he
>played a troll shaman. He *did* have extreme penalties sometimes, and
>he started with not much more than dirt under his fingernails, but he
>had fun! Why? Because he really identified wit the character, and
>because I let him go with that!
>
>I think you didn't give your troll (may he RIP) a real chance.
>That, or your GM was the kind of rules-lawyer and joy-killer every
>*role*player hates. Sob. Sob. Sob.
>
You're right, I didn't really give him a chance... But it was my second
attempt to make a character, coming two and a half years after I'd made my
first, and I was still playing that character in another campaign...:) I've
learned quite a bit about char creation since then, and could probably make
a much more playable one now, stat wise...

And the main reason, though, that I didn't really play him was that it
wasn't what I was really looking for in a character... And he didn't have
the numbers to convince me to keep him... I ended up going with a human
mage instead named Chaos, who has a penchant for fireballs, flashy
illusions, and glttery, star covered robes with a tall, pointed, floppy
Fizban style hat...:) He's fun, but just a bit insne...:)




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-Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich
chaos@*****.com
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